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Ricco positive for EPO
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| ruben |
Posted on 17-07-2008 18:47
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lol Stijn, Vladimir Efimkin has shown way more climbing potential in his career than Stijn Devolder.  There's no way to compare those two. Devolder came high up in Suisse 2007 purely thanks to his time trial. While Efimkins TT sucks and he came up high in gc's purely thanks to his climbing ability. Major difference there.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-07-2008 18:50
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FINALLY!
thank you god 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-07-2008 19:34
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But I thought he had naturally high values 
However, Millar believes that Mauro Gianetti, Saunier Duval's team manager, has good intentions and Riccò was more likely misled by others.
"I think that Mauro Gianetti has been taken advantage of and he is someone I have a lot of respect for," said Millar. "He does not deserve this and he has a good heart. He has perhaps put a lot of trust in people that he shouldn't have and he will learn from this.
"I guarantee - you watch Mauro - he will have an independent anti-doping programme within the team by the end of the year. He was close to doing it last year, and now he is going to have to extend his budget and get that programme in place. It is by doing that the sport will change."
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| dave92 |
Posted on 17-07-2008 19:38
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To preface this I realize that I am biased with Vandevelde but, to say he was dropped really early in the past and that is why you think he is doped is rediculous. He has finished well on GC(somewher in the 20's in '06) despite always working for team leaders like Sastre. Also, he has struggled with back pain in the past, which the team have actually spent money to help, and he says it feels the best he can remember. For a while Vandevelde has showed he's talented, and with hopefully a cleaner tour he is improving.
and most of the other riders are younger guys who are growing in performance IMO. Except for Botcharov, no clue about that.
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| Crazy_Ivan |
Posted on 17-07-2008 19:57
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I think it is time to publish names of riders that have been tested and are clean. It would clear those cyclists who are clean. |
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 17-07-2008 20:08
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And if some of those riders test positive later, the tests are being critisaised
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 17-07-2008 20:09
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Ruben wrote:
lol Stijn, Vladimir Efimkin has shown way more climbing potential in his career than Stijn Devolder. There's no way to compare those two. Devolder came high up in Suisse 2007 purely thanks to his time trial. While Efimkins TT sucks and he came up high in gc's purely thanks to his climbing ability. Major difference there.
Efimkin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infinity > Devolder
i know but still. ive never seen him doing that well in the tour.
now that i think. its the first time that i see him climbing with the favourites 
ok if i have to bet for the next doper.
i bet vandevelde 
reason : donnu B)
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
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| kadel |
Posted on 17-07-2008 20:38
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I think the reason why you haven't seen Efimkin doing that well in the Tour before is because he's riding his first Tour |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 17-07-2008 20:53
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Stijn_vranken wrote:
i don't know vandevelde. the years before this year he always got dropped quite fast.
i mean very fast
F. schleck didn't do to good last year too. thats why i have a bit of doubts. perhaps about kohl you're right.
but efimkin????
what did he ever do good in the moutains. and don't say the tour the suisse. devolder was there 3rd and look at devolder now
now i see botcharov was in the break last year . my bad
Vande Velde always got dropped in the past few year because he was a domestique working for guys like Armstrong, Basso, Sastre, and the brothers Schleck. When he did ride for himself he did great i.e. Tour of Luxembourg, Georgia etc... Now he is the leader of a clean team in a cleaner tour. Therefore he will do well. As for being dropped "very fast" and you "mean very fast" that statement is simply not true. top 25 in the tour as a domestique in 2007 proves he was and is no slouch.
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| JustinWK |
Posted on 17-07-2008 21:08
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I wonder why Saunier Duval was so strong thus far in this tour
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| matt493 |
Posted on 17-07-2008 21:15
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I am usually biased but I don't think that Vandevelde is guilty and that is an unbiased opinion. I wanted and thought Landis was doping but Vandevelde isn't. He rides for the team that spends the most amount of money on anti doping and he is training as a leader rather then a helper. He never got a chance to prove himself so now that he is he is doing great.
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| raar1991 |
Posted on 17-07-2008 21:17
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Ricco thought that noone will check him in bad TT |
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 17-07-2008 21:36
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raar1991 wrote:
Ricco thought that noone will check him in bad TT
haha. looks like it didn't work
i don't know perhaps you guys are right perhaps not. who will ever know
i still find it strange. an there are other riders/ older riders who seems to have improved all of a sudden
btw why the hell is PCm daily so slow
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
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| kadel |
Posted on 17-07-2008 22:41
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ASO had a list of suspicious riders and they targeted them for testing. 3 down, more will come. Piepoli and Cobo Acebo are likely going to be caught in a few days. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-07-2008 23:06
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by the way, the other riders beside Riccò that have "coincidentally" been tested "randomly" a bucketload of times each, are Ballan, Cunego, F.Schleck, Cancellara, and a couple more who I can't remember right now.
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| helGn |
Posted on 17-07-2008 23:23
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Cunego doesnt strike me as a doper these days. atleast not a succesfull one, i hope f.schelck just had one good day as he usually have winning one of the hard stages and roll over and die on another one. i quite like cancellara so i hope he aint a sucker. how many more where on the list issoisso?
i hope columbia is clean! would really piss me off if one of their riders got cought now
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 17-07-2008 23:54
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issoisso wrote:
by the way, the other riders beside Riccò that have "coincidentally" been tested "randomly" a bucketload of times each, are Ballan, Cunego, F.Schleck, Cancellara, and a couple more who I can't remember right now.
Moreau as well, although he conveniantly abandoned...
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Posted on 17-07-2008 23:54
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issoisso wrote:
by the way, the other riders beside Riccò that have "coincidentally" been tested "randomly" a bucketload of times each, are Ballan, Cunego, F.Schleck, Cancellara, and a couple more who I can't remember right now.
Moreau as well, although he conveniantly abandoned...
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 18-07-2008 00:09
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And nobody knows why.... [Ghost noise]OooOoooooo[/ghost noise] |
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| Nitro--Nick |
Posted on 18-07-2008 01:40
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just a question, is it possible to "delete" the dopers from the roster? i will have my hands full with Ricco at the giro thats all. |
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