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diouf
Ashton89 wrote:
diouf wrote:
I hope russia chrash and burn, because that jackass Hiddink havent taken Kerzhakov in his squad. That man was your qual topscorer. Now youve destroyen Russias chances. Moron


You aren't Russian by any chance ? Rolling Eyes
Hope it's alright I ask .. Smile - Hiddink has obviously taken players from the russian league only (or almost 1 og 2 from other leagues as I recall it Wink )


No. I'm danish actually, but Kerzhakov is da best. Instead of him he has brought the super attackers: badam badam badam Roman Adamov and Ivan Saenko.

Try to imagine an attack with Pogrebnyaik in the middle and Arshavin on the right and Kerzhakov on the left. They could beat anyone, but thanks to Hiddink they are getting elimanted and probably without getting a single point

And while i'm am on it. I hate Manolo Jimenez as well. He decided to freeze Kerzhakov out. ( funny word spell. He's a russian:lolSmile If he hadn't done that, you wouldn't even have a discussion about his place in his team. Juande, why did you leave?
Edited by diouf on 31-05-2008 23:24
 
Ashton89
diouf wrote:
No. I'm danish actually, but Kerzhakov is da best. Instead of him he has brought the super attackers: badam badam badam Roman Adamov and Ivan Saenko.

Try to imagine an attack with Pogrebnyaik in the middle and Arshavin on the right and Kerzhakov on the left. They could beat anyone, but thanks to Hiddink they are getting elimanted and probably without getting a single point

And while i'm am on it. I hate Manolo Jimenez as well. He decided to freeze Kerzhakov out. ( funny word spell. He's a russian:lolSmile If he hadn't done that, you wouldn't even have a discussion about his place in his team. Juande, why did you leave?


Hehe okay me too as you probably already know Rolling Eyes
I reckon that you're a Sevilla fan then?
Well Juande Ramos left because he had a shitty season with Sevilla in La Premiera and Tottenham offered him a huge wage .. Probably a whole lot more than Sevilla gave him Grin

But yes I agree with you .. Kerzhakov is the best russian striker ..
Edited by Ashton89 on 31-05-2008 23:31
 
Osmose
A_Schleck wrote:
I'm an Arsenal-fan, so naturally I hate Man Utd, but you just can't in any way argue against Ronaldo being absolute brilliant. I hate to say but that's unfortuneately how it is. Please move to Madrid, Ronaldo!

ronaldo has no brains, they tell him what to do and he does, that's not a player, that's a freakin robot:x

that's why he sucks at national team, the coach thinks is a golden boy
F***K HIM!!!(really hate the guyPfft)
Nélson Évora, national hero!
 
Ashton89
Osmose wrote:
ronaldo has no brains, they tell him what to do and he does, that's not a player, that's a freakin robot:x

that's why he sucks at national team, the coach thinks is a golden boy
F***K HIM!!!(really hate the guyPfft)


We've noticed that ..! But what interests me most is WHY ?? Rolling Eyes
 
Osmose
Ashton89 wrote:
Osmose wrote:
ronaldo has no brains, they tell him what to do and he does, that's not a player, that's a freakin robot:x

that's why he sucks at national team, the coach thinks is a golden boy
F***K HIM!!!(really hate the guyPfft)


We've noticed that ..! But what interests me most is WHY ?? Rolling Eyes

first he's arrogant(is quotes are sickning)
second i hate the fact how he treated his formation club when he scored a goal(see the comemoration and then compare it to rui costa's celebration)
third how he sucks when playing for Portugal
fourth the way he plays at general

and finally half of the hatred comes from the attention of the media gives to him

he doesn't deserve the spot they put him

and if you notice, i would like to play at real, he's just like beckham(one of worst players)
Edited by Osmose on 31-05-2008 23:50
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Ashton89
Okay but the media gives him all that attention because he has star-potential and star-quality.. Like girls like him in general (most girls does), his goal has always been to play for Real Madrid at some point in his career .. I hope it will be LATER .. Hope he'll stay with Man Utd.. (Yes I love Manchester United) ...
You compare him to Beckham but the fact is that Ronaldo is a much better football player than Beckham .. His talent is much bigger and technique is a whole lot better ..
He is arrogant but that's just his style and his way to be... Like Zlatan Ibrahimovich is arrogant too but he's a great football player ..
I like the way he plays.. I like he challenges the defenders 1 vs. 1 and sometimes 1 vs. 2 .. And that he succed in what he's doing .. For united he's a great player and 31 league goals proves that ..
Attitude shouldn't be a fact when you judge a football player .. It's not his attitude that decides whether he's good or not .. It's his action on the pitch .. That's my oppinion on Ronaldo Wink Grin
 
mb2612
My problem with Ronaldo is that I'm an Arsenal fan

I can come up with lots of other good reasons but they all stem from the first one.

Its why I used to dislike Beckham untill about a year ago.
 
Ashton89
mb2612 wrote:
My problem with Ronaldo is that I'm an Arsenal fan

I can come up with lots of other good reasons but they all stem from the first one.

Its why I used to dislike Beckham untill about a year ago.


Okay that's fair enough .. But you can't deny that he is a great player ? He is the best player in the world right now.. (Well I like him but that's maybe because I'm Man Utd fan Grin )
 
Osmose
well ashton89, to me a good player is great inside and outside the pitch, that is the reason i put players like cronaldo and maradona(not comparing) at the bottom
if tomorrow a club from fiji islands offers him a multimilionaire contract, he would be already on the airplaneWink
Edited by Osmose on 01-06-2008 00:27
Nélson Évora, national hero!
 
Ashton89
Osmose wrote:
well ashton89, to me a good player is great inside and outside the pitch, that is the reason i put players like cronaldo and maradona(not comparing) at the bottom
if tomorrow a club from fiji islands offers him a multimilionaire contract, he would be already on the airplaneWink


Well in Man Utd his wage is: 120.000 £ a week .. It's probably only clubs like R. Madrid, Chelsea, and a few others that can afford to pay what he demands.. And Football players chasing the money - well 90 % of them are chasing the money.. Every time you hear a player complain about his current contract it's about money and they are gready .. But that's the culture of football now-a-days ..
IMO the clubs are paying the player WAY WAY WAY TOO much in wages .. It stupid that a man like Zlatan annual wage from Inter is about 8 million £ and then you should include sponsor deals too and so on .. That's insane in my world for playing football ..
 
Addy291
No one can dispute that Ronaldo has been the best player in the world this season. No matter whether you hate him or not, simple facts are that he has been the best plauer in the world.

EDIT: @AShton; Real are willing to pay him £200,000 a weekWink
Edited by Addy291 on 01-06-2008 00:36
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Ashton89
Addy291 wrote:
No one can dispute that Ronaldo has been the best player in the world this season. No matter whether you hate him or not, simple facts are that he has been the best plauer in the world.


I agree 100 % with you... 41 season goals in all tournament speaks for itself .. No other player (in this season) has been even close to this number of goals.. Not even the best STRIKERS in the world ..
 
Ashton89
@AShton; Real are willing to pay him £200,000 a week


It really doesn't surprise me.. R. Madrid are fuckheads and if they want a player they do EVERYTHING to get him.. They have no morals whatsoever .. And no business morals either .. Angry
 
diouf
Ashton89 wrote:
diouf wrote:
No. I'm danish actually, but Kerzhakov is da best. Instead of him he has brought the super attackers: badam badam badam Roman Adamov and Ivan Saenko.

Try to imagine an attack with Pogrebnyaik in the middle and Arshavin on the right and Kerzhakov on the left. They could beat anyone, but thanks to Hiddink they are getting elimanted and probably without getting a single point

And while i'm am on it. I hate Manolo Jimenez as well. He decided to freeze Kerzhakov out. ( funny word spell. He's a russian:lolSmile If he hadn't done that, you wouldn't even have a discussion about his place in his team. Juande, why did you leave?


Hehe okay me too as you probably already know Rolling Eyes
I reckon that you're a Sevilla fan then?
Well Juande Ramos left because he had a shitty season with Sevilla in La Premiera and Tottenham offered him a huge wage .. Probably a whole lot more than Sevilla gave him Grin

But yes I agree with you .. Kerzhakov is the best russian striker ..


Not that big a Sevillafan, more a Kerzhakovfan.
Yeah. Spurs probably swimmed him in money, but i think that he was a good coach. He made that rotation work. Manolo is now way near that. And i think they'll get trouble net season, now that Keita is gone.
 
JustinWK
but u do know that Kerzhakov has only played 20 matches the last 3 years, most of time he didnt even play the whole match so I can understand Hiddink that he wants players who have played every week
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Ashton89
diouf wrote:
Not that big a Sevillafan, more a Kerzhakovfan.
Yeah. Spurs probably swimmed him in money, but i think that he was a good coach. He made that rotation work. Manolo is now way near that. And i think they'll get trouble net season, now that Keita is gone.


Well he is at FC Barcelona from next season :lol: I like that .. Grin
They'll have more trouble if they sell Luis Fabiano or Kanouté .. But sevilla has to buy some good players .. Maybe sell some of the players they have now .. I don't think that Daniel Alves will stay at Sevilla either..
 
diouf
JustinWK wrote:
but u do know that Kerzhakov has only played 20 matches the last 3 years, most of time he didnt even play the whole match so I can understand Hiddink that he wants players who have played every week


Well in the 05/06 season he played a lot of games including an impressing UEFA CUP campaign scoring Zenit into the quarterfinals. Advocaat came in 2006 summer and decided not to use Kerzhakov(what i wrong with the dutch people?) and he was sold to Sevilla in the winter time. And just in the rest of the season there he played 23 games(10 from the start) and scored 7 goals, so don't know where you have your statistics from? He scored 4 more goals in the opening of Sevillas 07/08 season, but then he became injured a coupe of times and when was beginning to hit the form, Manolo came and made him fifth attacker.
he was sold to Dinamo where he has been a regular and scoring 2 goals, so i would say he have played more than enough. And he has shown that he has the quialty to play on the highest european level, which a guy like Adamov haven't even been close to.
 
Aquarius
Patrick Vieira will probably have to withdraw his participation. Flamini has been called instead.
Vieira hurt his thigh whilst training in Toulouse 24h before a friendly game France played last Saturday.

Damn, we already miss Escudé because of an injury, now it's Vieira. Sad
Edited by Aquarius on 02-06-2008 12:47
 
Xavier
Toulalan will do just fine =) i hope he plays in stead of Vieira
I dont get why Boumsong & Escudé are preferred to Mexes tho :/
 
Aquarius
Yeah, Toulalan will play there, but he's not as decisive as Vieira in the national team.
Domenech wants to have a starting 11 and 11(+1) subs. That's why there are no guys like Trezeguet, Mexès, etc. Big egos who can't sit on the bench with a closed mouth and fvck the group atmosphere. Plus Mexès had a slightly injured knee last week.
 
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