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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-05-2008 18:46
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p3druh wrote:
Contador has now stated that he will not be a team leader at the Giro.
He will be working for Kloden and Leipheimer.
As predicted. He's been on holiday while Leipheimer has been working hard and Kloden is peaking for his admitted season goal of Romandie (the other being the Tour of Switzeland)
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He also said that his goals for the season are "Winning the Vuelta and the Olympics RR"
Mark my words: impossible. he has a zero percent chance of recovering from the jet lag in time.
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Posted on 05-05-2008 18:46
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Guido Mukk wrote:
they dont should be here.
why is that???? what if your in that team and some guys take EPO, that doesn't make you a criminal. that teams shouldn't be punished the riders just have to be harder punished. 10 years of no cycling for example
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Posted on 05-05-2008 18:49
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issoisso wrote:
p3druh wrote:
Contador has now stated that he will not be a team leader at the Giro.
He will be working for Kloden and Leipheimer.
As predicted. He's been on holiday while Leipheimer has been working hard and Kloden is peaking for his admitted season goal of Romandie (the other being the Tour of Switzeland)
I think it's not so much the form as it is the fact that there are 4 TT... With Levi and/or Kloden as team leaders they can afford to loose a little bit of time on the mountains because they will get it back in the TT...
issoisso wrote:p3druh wrote:
He also said that his goals for the season are "Winning the Vuelta and the Olympics RR"
Mark my words: impossible. he has a zero percent chance of recovering from the jet lag in time.
I've seen weirder things happen...
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-05-2008 18:52
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p3druh wrote:
issoisso wrote:
[quote]p3druh wrote:
Contador has now stated that he will not be a team leader at the Giro.
He will be working for Kloden and Leipheimer.
As predicted. He's been on holiday while Leipheimer has been working hard and Kloden is peaking for his admitted season goal of Romandie (the other being the Tour of Switzeland)
I think it's not so much the form as it is the fact that there are 4 TT... With Levi and/or Kloden as team leaders they can afford to loose a little bit of time on the mountains because they will get it back in the TT...
The TTs aren't that long. A 50km TT will give you a bigger advantage than 2 35km ones.
the last one might put be about 2:30 in Kloden's advantage, but I think the real difficulty for the climbers will be the lack of tough mountains. If you notice, there are really tough stages, but there isn't one that just kills someone.
Except for the Kronplatz. Whoever has a bad day there is going to suffer immensely
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Posted on 05-05-2008 18:53
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p3druh wrote:
issoisso wrote:
p3druh wrote:
Contador has now stated that he will not be a team leader at the Giro.
He will be working for Kloden and Leipheimer.
As predicted. He's been on holiday while Leipheimer has been working hard and Kloden is peaking for his admitted season goal of Romandie (the other being the Tour of Switzeland)
I think it's not so much the form as it is the fact that there are 4 TT... With Levi and/or Kloden as team leaders they can afford to loose a little bit of time on the mountains because they will get it back in the TT...
I've seen weirder things happen...
wow 4 TT??? ive gotta check out the route nowB)B)
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Posted on 05-05-2008 18:55
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issoisso wrote:
The TTs aren't that long. A 50km TT will give you a bigger advantage than 2 35km ones.
the last one might put be about 2:30 in Kloden's advantage, but I think the real difficulty for the climbers will be the lack of tough mountains. If you notice, there are really tough stages, but there isn't one that just kills someone.
Except for the Kronplatz. Whoever has a bad day there is going to suffer immensely
I was just saying that to a friend of mine... Kronplatz will sort out the Top 5 but that's it... This Giro is either going to be very exciting or very boring...
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-05-2008 18:57
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Stijn_vranken wrote:
p3druh wrote:
issoisso wrote:
p3druh wrote:
Contador has now stated that he will not be a team leader at the Giro.
He will be working for Kloden and Leipheimer.
As predicted. He's been on holiday while Leipheimer has been working hard and Kloden is peaking for his admitted season goal of Romandie (the other being the Tour of Switzeland)
I think it's not so much the form as it is the fact that there are 4 TT... With Levi and/or Kloden as team leaders they can afford to loose a little bit of time on the mountains because they will get it back in the TT...
I've seen weirder things happen...
wow 4 TT??? ive gotta check out the route nowB)B)
39 Km ITT, 24km TTT, 41KM ITT and a ITT up the Kronplatz. and this time, it includes the 24% section on white gravel.
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| alex153 |
Posted on 05-05-2008 19:02
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Stijn_vranken wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
they dont should be here.
why is that???? what if your in that team and some guys take EPO, that doesn't make you a criminal. that teams shouldn't be punished the riders just have to be harder punished. 10 years of no cycling for example
Klöden has spent his career at T-Mobile and Astana....and you think he is clean? |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 05-05-2008 19:06
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Stijn_vranken wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
they dont should be here.
why is that???? what if your in that team and some guys take EPO, that doesn't make you a criminal. that teams shouldn't be punished the riders just have to be harder punished. 10 years of no cycling for example
Some guys..all this organisation has playing pokker with us..two years streight they have banned out of the TdF.. 4. strong riders got inside one year doping ban.If you think that after Bruyneel taking over team manager duty life is beautiful..you are just naive. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-05-2008 19:08
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Guido Mukk wrote:
If you think that after Bruyneel taking over team manager duty life is beautiful..you are just naive.
Exactly. What a lot of people don't get is that Bruyneel is one of the biggest pieces of the doping problem.
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Posted on 05-05-2008 19:12
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p3druh wrote:
He also said that his goals for the season are "Winning the Vuelta and the Olympics RR"
Mark my words: impossible. he has a zero percent chance of recovering from the jet lag in time.[/quote]
How long time is between the two? |
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Posted on 05-05-2008 19:21
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alex153 wrote:
How long time is between the two?
21 days. the problem is that it's going to screw up your training because you're going to need 11 days on average to recover from the jet-lag.
Edited by issoisso on 05-05-2008 19:21
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-05-2008 19:27
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My vote for biggest "surprise", by the way, goes to Pellizotti.
It's also Rujano's second-to-last chance.
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Posted on 05-05-2008 19:28
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at least the vuelta should be "easy", he as been racing(and winning) in many spanish races.
Nélson Évora, national hero!
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Posted on 05-05-2008 19:35
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issoisso wrote:
alex153 wrote:
How long time is between the two?
21 days. the problem is that it's going to screw up your training because you're going to need 11 days on average to recover from the jet-lag.
If it wasn't for the fact that it is Contador I would say impossible, it all depends on the competition I believe |
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Posted on 05-05-2008 20:13
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I think that the TT will be the decisive part for this year Giro, and even if he his in good form Kloden can't follow the like of Contador in the mountain while Leipheimer him can keep up with Contador and can maybe even beat Kloden in the TT and with no other very big rivals for GC a part from Menchov but he said that Tour de France was his main objective and Di luca who his just to bad in the TT and Contador working for him I can't see anybodyelse then Leipheimer winning this year Giro. |
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 05-05-2008 21:04
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alex153 wrote:
Stijn_vranken wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
they dont should be here.
why is that???? what if your in that team and some guys take EPO, that doesn't make you a criminal. that teams shouldn't be punished the riders just have to be harder punished. 10 years of no cycling for example
Klöden has spent his career at T-Mobile and Astana....and you think he is clean?
has he ver been caught in all the years he has been cycling.
did vinokourov take doping because his team made him too or his team offered it?
the answer is no. you can't judge a rider because he rides for a certain team.
one exception : Festina
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-05-2008 21:05
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My favorite quote by Kloden is his right after Ullrich was busted: "He's as innocent as me" 
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Posted on 05-05-2008 21:06
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issoisso wrote:
My favorite quote by Kloden is his right after Ullrich was busted: "He's as innocent as me"
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
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Posted on 05-05-2008 21:44
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looking at the startlist i would say that an Astana rider will win. I wouldnt read to much into what contador has said. I cant see why Kloden can't win with the others supporting as he was able to ride with contador in the tour when he wasn't riding for vino. I am a bit supprised that Horner is not there to support but its by far the strongest team but they just had not time to prep for it like the other teams so might just give others a better chance. |
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