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| samtheman |
Posted on 20-03-2008 23:07
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In America?!!!
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 20-03-2008 23:20
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Both in America and Overall |
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| Tom canning |
Posted on 21-03-2008 09:33
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contador is definetley the ebst climber in the world but all time armstrong |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-03-2008 09:40
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p3druh wrote:
I was trying to make a joke about the fact that he sucks but stills manages to waste an entire team working for him and still finds the time to not be able to win the Volta a Portugal... You got to be Super-Man to be able to do that... He sucks... Big time... But he doesn't think so, to the point of claiming he is the 2nd best climber in Portugal...
He is an overrated prima donna...
Aaaah. that. yup, he is. he wasn't the best climber on the team and he wasn't the best time triallist on the team. still, the team worked for him. go figure.
If Guerra hadn't been ordered to stop and wait for him, Guerra would've won the Volta
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| robert_psv |
Posted on 21-03-2008 11:14
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Tom canning wrote:
contador is definetley the ebst climber in the world but all time armstrong
Rasmussen is the best.. I still remember Levi, Rasmussen and Contador up front in TdF, Levi and Contador working together and Rasmussen got away from them
Edited by robert_psv on 21-03-2008 11:14
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| Setzel |
Posted on 21-03-2008 11:27
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*doped* cough cough
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| samtheman |
Posted on 21-03-2008 12:03
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Well, thats not really much of an argument in these times is it. I mean Contador and Armstrong were mentioned aswell...
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-03-2008 12:04
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setzel wrote:
*doped* cough cough
And who of the ones he beat wasn't? |
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| robert_psv |
Posted on 21-03-2008 12:34
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Everyone keeps whining about doping taking over the cycling world, then please stop with calling everyone who you don't like doped. There was never real proof he doped.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-03-2008 12:45
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robert_psv wrote:
There was never real proof he doped.
Except for the Dyn-EPO in his urine
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 21-03-2008 12:49
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Rassmussen was never caught for doping, he was suspended for missing a test. I'm not saying he didn't, but he was never caught. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-03-2008 12:52
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Deadpool wrote:
Rassmussen was never caught for doping, he was suspended for missing a test. I'm not saying he didn't, but he was never caught.
*aheeem*
Rasmussen took Dynepo in Tour
While legally not a violation of the anti-doping code, Danish rider Michael Rasmussen was found to have taken Dynepo in the 2007 Tour de France. Dynepo is an EPO product based on human cells. Samples from this year's Tour were analysed in the French anti-doping lab in Châtenay-Malabry, and its technicians have alerted the International Cycling Union (UCI) of the findings, French paper L'Equipe reported in its Friday edition.
Dynepo was found in a urine test of Rasmussen. Rasmussen had not been found positive during the Tour, but was kicked out by his team Rabobank, following his whereabouts affair.
For about a year the French lab has detected Dynepo, all in all about ten cases so far, according to Pierre Bordry, the president of the French Anti-Doping Agency. But none of the cases could have been declared as a positive finding, as the WADA criteria of positivity of a test are not yet adapted to the advances in the pharmaceutical market.
That's last year. There's also his acrymonious split with CSC and his a-lot-more-than-just-a-little-suspicious mountain biking days
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| Setzel |
Posted on 21-03-2008 12:52
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DON'T START this discussion again iso is a good spammer on discussions like this so STOP IT the Hunter of Dopeheads will be activated 
BTW Spam started in every deadpool threads
I am mean
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-03-2008 12:54
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you'll notice I only respond when someone says "x is clean" and I believe there's definite proof of the contrary. I don't start the doping discussions
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| rodda |
Posted on 21-03-2008 12:54
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he is very good at it though setzel
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| Setzel |
Posted on 21-03-2008 12:55
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I know but the big black monster aka iso comes and eat every doped
That's what i like Off Topic
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 21-03-2008 13:06
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Didn't see that issoisso, so I guess he did dope.
Question: Is that stuff now illegal? |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-03-2008 13:14
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All that's far or close to be medical and that is used y people who don't need it for their health to improve their performances is considered doping, so yes, that's illegal.
I've started hearing about dyn-EPO about 2 or 3 years ago, unfortunately no tests were available for that back then, but I guess it was already forbidden, I mean namely.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 21-03-2008 13:15
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My question was (you answered in a backward manner) will being found positive for Dyn-EPO get you a ban? |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-03-2008 13:27
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Yes and no. The test is not validated yet, so Rasmussen wasn't tested legally for it and cannot be considered positive from a legal point of view.
Though, there are indications of the use of the product.
It's a bit the same as Landis's testosterone or Armstrong's 99 epo cases, the tests cannot be considered from a legal point of view, because either the tests have some flaws, either there are no B samples available, either the tests are not official. Yet the presence of illegal substances is not questionnable.
It's a matter of form and substance. |
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