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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 15-06-2007 18:21
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"The time spent on the sidelines during the past year has been included in the punishment." |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 15-06-2007 18:23
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What? The time spent racing for Discovery?! |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 15-06-2007 18:28
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Could be when he was suspended while being at CSC + the time he was suspended while riding for Discovery. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-06-2007 23:34
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Rabobank has promoted Tom Leezer to the senior team
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| Ashton89 |
Posted on 15-06-2007 23:40
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The company CSC will continue to be sponsor for the cycling team (Team CSC) at least until the end of 2008. So will Skoda. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 18-06-2007 18:21
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According to rumours, Basso has already received three offers |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 20-06-2007 13:48
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Zurich - Metzgete has now been officially cancelled. |
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| Polti |
Posted on 20-06-2007 13:55
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i heard it too. what a bullsh*t! one of my favourite race because of the "pfannenstiel"!
can someone explain why its cancelled? i've got no time at the moment to google. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 20-06-2007 14:08
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Probably due to money problems (they miss sponsors) |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-06-2007 00:58
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I'm back from the concert, and as obvious, I'm wide awake, so I thought I'd share this:
Unibet.com out of Vuelta. self-explanatory, really.
Manzano now added to his previous declarations:
Alejandro Valverde "took the same stuff that they gave me"
"I remember an evening after one of the Vuelta stages in 2002. Valverde came to dinner with a testosterone plaster on. After an hour he ripped it off, otherwise he would have been tested positive."
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-06-2007 01:02
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I must say that I have a hard time _not_ to believe what Manzano says. After all, he's really, really precise in everything he explains - he seems trustworthy. I think he's hated among the pro cyclists though  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-06-2007 01:05
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CrueTrue wrote:
I must say that I have a hard time _not_ to believe what Manzano says. After all, he's really, really precise in everything he explains - he seems trustworthy. I think he's hated among the pro cyclists though
I pretty much believe what he says. except for the part where he was "forced to dope himself". he also says that those few cyclists who still speak to him tell him it's just the same only they're more careful now.
In other news, Tinkoff is aiming to win the Eindhoven TTT as it's "big goal for this part of the season"
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Posted on 21-06-2007 01:08
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I think it's weird that the organizations don't listen more to him. They wanted Basso to say everything, he didn't, they wanted Scarponi to tell everything, he didn't -- but Manzano has nothing to lose since he doesn't have a fiuture in the world of cycling. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-06-2007 01:21
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CrueTrue wrote:
I think it's weird that the organizations don't listen more to him. They wanted Basso to say everything, he didn't, they wanted Scarponi to tell everything, he didn't -- but Manzano has nothing to lose since he doesn't have a fiuture in the world of cycling.
playing the devil's advocate: he has everything to gain from making things up and getting paid for interviews over and over again...
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 21-06-2007 02:34
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issoisso wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
I think it's weird that the organizations don't listen more to him. They wanted Basso to say everything, he didn't, they wanted Scarponi to tell everything, he didn't -- but Manzano has nothing to lose since he doesn't have a fiuture in the world of cycling.
playing the devil's advocate: he has everything to gain from making things up and getting paid for interviews over and over again...
Sounds like the same situation as that Irish guy Walsh who keeps writing books about how Lance Armstrong doped in his victories just to cash in and get attention |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-06-2007 05:06
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Levi4life wrote:
issoisso wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
I think it's weird that the organizations don't listen more to him. They wanted Basso to say everything, he didn't, they wanted Scarponi to tell everything, he didn't -- but Manzano has nothing to lose since he doesn't have a fiuture in the world of cycling.
playing the devil's advocate: he has everything to gain from making things up and getting paid for interviews over and over again...
Sounds like the same situation as that Irish guy Walsh who keeps writing books about how Lance Armstrong doped in his victories just to cash in and get attention
I hope you realize that most people don't see that particular case as you do 
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 21-06-2007 06:08
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I was under the impression that Armstrong is the most tested rider in history. And still has 7 TDF's, 2 monument classics and a world Championships to his undisputed credit. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-06-2007 07:05
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Levi4life wrote:
I was under the impression that Armstrong is the most tested rider in history. And still has 7 TDF's, 2 monument classics and a world Championships to his undisputed credit.
quite a lot of people will argue that the amount of tests he was put under are more than enough proof that he never doped.
while quite a lot of people will argue that the same tests were applied to an enormous amount of riders who tested negative and have now admitted to doping.
I'll just put my view this way:
Armstrong is the guy who stops at nothing to win. Like most of the legends of most sports he has a ruthless streak and nothing is going too far as winning goes.
Like most of those guys, he not only wants to win, he absolutely needs it and would feel completely void by not doing so.
doping isn't very far from that.
I'm not saying he is definitely doped. however, quite a few people from his previous team have been caught or admitted to it. Do you believe that the guy who was well known for being a control freak, that HAD to control and decide every little detail of every single thing that happened around him was the only one not doing so?
if you do, good for you.  (absolutely no sarcasm intended)
I respect your opinion, but I can in no way believe he did it fairly. I consider he beat others that were just as doped as he was through immense hard work and talent. but I find simply impossible the reasoning that he was clean.
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 21-06-2007 07:57
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So we are all to assume that all the greats there ever were doped, just because a few did. Cynicism and the guilty before found innocent act pisses me off. If you are so deadset against the athletes maybe you should not follow the sport. Take up football where they sweep it under the rug and forget about it.
You seem to be telling me that I should assume that any good cyclist these days is a doper? I could. But i like to give the great athletes of our sport the benefit of the doubt, rather than believe an author with his head up his ass or some reporter looking for a scoop.
Armstrong was a control freak. He built a team around himself. He trained hundreds of days a year for 21 days in july. He spent time in the ind tunnel perfecting every little component of his shape and his equipment. I have yet to see however any test results that would lead me to believe that Armstrong Doped. Convince me.
However that will have to wait. I have a 4 stage race in Yosemite this weekend. |
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| 0buKKaKe |
Posted on 21-06-2007 08:15
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my words Levi, im with you |
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