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2015 Season Suggestions
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| CountArach |
Posted on 07-03-2015 14:03
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Rather than 'Live' betting which could become hassle to organise, why not try to incorporate some form of pre-race Betting. Is that something that might get managers to take more interest in other divisions?
As long as it was better organised and done with more forewarning than the previous effort, then yes it probably would.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 07-03-2015 14:06
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CountArach wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Rather than 'Live' betting which could become hassle to organise, why not try to incorporate some form of pre-race Betting. Is that something that might get managers to take more interest in other divisions?
As long as it was better organised and done with more forewarning than the previous effort, then yes it probably would.
Well my ideal scenario would be to have a 2nd site Fantasy Betting system, which deals with ManGame.
Would need some behind the scenes work to see if possible though.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 07-03-2015 14:07
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SportingNonsense wrote:
CountArach wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Rather than 'Live' betting which could become hassle to organise, why not try to incorporate some form of pre-race Betting. Is that something that might get managers to take more interest in other divisions?
As long as it was better organised and done with more forewarning than the previous effort, then yes it probably would.
Well my ideal scenario would be to have a 2nd site Fantasy Betting system, which deals with ManGame.
Would need some behind the scenes work to see if possible though.
That would be amazing.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 07-03-2015 14:08
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I am still open for helping with that MG betting, if jph27 (or anyone else) fancies bringing it back. 
To longer posts, i pretty much agree with SNs replies to Romans post. When i want to check what is going around whole MG, i dont need outer motivation to get me into it.
0 XP lvl does not seem as best idea, i agree that postponing the addition of young riders should be better way.
I think that MG is now "deep" enough and maybe some of those things would be too complicated to implement and run, when there is speed issue for some people with the game., so that would rather go against it.
But idea of rider goals looks interesting.
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| SotD |
Posted on 07-03-2015 14:11
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Rather than 'Live' betting which could become hassle to organise, why not try to incorporate some form of pre-race Betting. Is that something that might get managers to take more interest in other divisions?
For me it would, although I'm not sure what it will give in terms of activity, which was why I suggested the "live" thing...
The betting/livething could be something like this:
Liege-Bastogne-Liege:
Pre-race bets:
Winner
H2H
Amount of riders in BotD (Atleast 50km of break is needed to be BotD)
After first part:
Winner (slightly altered stats, depending on strength of BotD, crashes, splits)
H2H - Likewise
First rider over a certain hill.
And so on...
In the LBL it could be put into 3 sections:
0km-150km
151km-210km
211km-finish
It doesn't have to be ridden live. It could be done like a normal race, where the reports have been written for a week, and then everyone except the reporter could get betting. The reporter could then get a payback of eg. 60%, so he doesn't gets nothing, or he could bet on something else, like the amount of posts in a certain time, amount of different members posting in a certain time or so. Just so he doesn't get nothing while the others get a bit.
To make sure there isn't a huge amount of money to win everyone active could be given 10.000, and the highest possible odds was 8,5 or so. So in terms of betting it all on one rider would give a max of 85.000, but while betting throughout it could potentially be a bit more. If the "live-bets" had the highest odds on 3,0 and you couldn't play more than at most 5.000 total pr. "section", then you can't get more than:
5.000 bet on the right winner and high odds (8,5) = 42.500,-
5.000 live bet on section 1 high odds (3,0) = 15.000,-
5.000 live bet on section 2 high odds (3,0) = 15.000,-
5.000 live bet on section 3 high odds (3,0) = 15.000,-
= 87.500,-
Obviously you can toy around a bit with it, so the ones who are both extremely willing to put the cash in, and the ones extremely lucky could win more (300.000,-) eg. (It wouldn't happen, we all know that).
It could be something that you have to save the money yourself in the off-season if you want to play - but that is a bit risky in terms of activity as some might decide not to play because they need the money here and now, and when it comes to the actual time, they regret. And while it is worst for them, it is also a take-down on the games activity.
If someone is interested I could help make the standards, so things are ready and it just needs altered odds (which can be done previously easily). So all the reporter needs to do is to write the report (in three parts) like he normally does, and then update the betting-sheet. Most of the bettings could be done beforehand, where it is only the betting-figures that changes.
In LBL eg., the race winner and the H2H could be the same all the way through the race, where only the riskcalculation needs fixing, and then some minor bettings should be implemented after the reporter has ridden the race... Everything can be planned ahead, except for the payout, which I can do if you need.
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| Bjartne |
Posted on 07-03-2015 14:13
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CountArach wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
CountArach wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Rather than 'Live' betting which could become hassle to organise, why not try to incorporate some form of pre-race Betting. Is that something that might get managers to take more interest in other divisions?
As long as it was better organised and done with more forewarning than the previous effort, then yes it probably would.
Well my ideal scenario would be to have a 2nd site Fantasy Betting system, which deals with ManGame.
Would need some behind the scenes work to see if possible though.
That would be amazing.
If I knew which English words would be better than amazing, I would have insert it here.
No but seriously, I think it would lift the interest remarkably for managers whatever division. I would even pay in order to make the man-game work as a fantasy game as well. |
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| SotD |
Posted on 07-03-2015 14:15
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I am still open for helping with that MG betting, if jph27 (or anyone else) fancies bringing it back.
To longer posts, i pretty much agree with SNs replies to Romans post. When i want to check what is going around whole MG, i dont need outer motivation to get me into it.
0 XP lvl does not seem as best idea, i agree that postponing the addition of young riders should be better way.
I think that MG is now "deep" enough and maybe some of those things would be too complicated to implement and run, when there is speed issue for some people with the game., so that would rather go against it.
But idea of rider goals looks interesting.
I am also open for helping with betting. It's something that I can do without having the game. I helped for a bit with calculating racepoints aswell, untill my PC fucked up. It is back on track now, though, so I can help with that part again for next season.
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| roturn |
Posted on 07-03-2015 14:20
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As long as this betting is just for fun and nothing to do with budget etc. It could work. Would be a lot of work though I think.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 07-03-2015 14:37
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roturn wrote:
As long as this betting is just for fun and nothing to do with budget etc. It could work. Would be a lot of work though I think.
Agreed. This seems really important. The last thing we want is to make it a necessity for managers.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 07-03-2015 14:38
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CountArach wrote:
roturn wrote:
As long as this betting is just for fun and nothing to do with budget etc. It could work. Would be a lot of work though I think.
Agreed. This seems really important. The last thing we want is to make it a necessity for managers.
+1. Just for fun
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 07-03-2015 18:27
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Is there any merit in bringing back the live twitter feed that we got on some stages last season? I don't remember seeing much of it this season but it seemed to keep twitter more active and didn't really give much away in terms of results but was still entertaining. It might help both keep twitter more active and help with interest from managers in other divisions as it made me more interested in other divisions in my first season.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 07-03-2015 20:42
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I am still open for helping with that MG betting, if jph27 (or anyone else) fancies bringing it back.
I'm definitely hoping to, provided there's people willing to help. It was shoddily planned first time around by me, and didn't really work. With the addition of an integrated system then it would work a lot better, and if DDs idea of general discussion threads - a great idea in my opinion - came in then it'd serve as a great way of focussing attention on the betting.
Glancing through the thread there's only a few other things I'd add to. Firstly, live reports aren't worth the hassle in my opinion - too time consuming and not really necessary. Like the ideas of variable form, the Continental Championships and the rider goals from Roman. Would be happy to assist however I can if extra pairs of hands are needed for their implementation |
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| Cavendish-Fan |
Posted on 08-03-2015 14:52
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After i saw tsmoha tour of America, i had made some leaders then he said that will be a great idea for next season. So he give me some stage races to create leaders.
If you like them, it is possible to make more also for PCT and CT races
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| cio93 |
Posted on 08-03-2015 15:08
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WOW that would be an amazing addition to the game imo!
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 08-03-2015 15:10
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If my focus wasn't already on Vancouver it certainly would be now  Best suggestion ever!
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 08-03-2015 15:18
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Looks great Cavendish-Fan! I can send you a list of stage races that will be part of the MG next year which don't have any leaders jersey at the moment.
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| Cavendish-Fan |
Posted on 08-03-2015 15:21
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Looks great Cavendish-Fan! I can send you a list of stage races that will be part of the MG next year which don't have any leaders jersey at the moment.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 08-03-2015 15:33
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Awesome, CF
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 08-03-2015 15:37
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Awesome stuff with the leaders jerseys 
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| jph27 |
Posted on 08-03-2015 15:43
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Amazing work! Would definitely be a really cool addition |
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