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2014 Tour de Pologne
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Anderis
baseballlover312 wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if Garmin are being haunted by a demon this year or something.

Only two Garmin riders finished in the peloton. On a totally flat stage...

On a positive note: one of them is Hesjedal, so he can be still in contention for GC, although I can't see him finishing high here TBH.

Farrar didn't abandon as far as I can see, so maybe he can bounce back for the rest of flat stages.
 
Wilier
Tomorrow's stage will be another long one. As well as a flat one.
Tour de Pologne, Stage 2: Torun - Warszawa (2.WT2)
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Probably sprinters work again. Mezgec will be wanting to get another WT win, if he recovers from his crash. Otherwise Sinkeldam or Arndt are good bets for Giant. Hutarovich, Farrar, Ferrari, Modolo, Haller, Bos, Matthews, Swift, Lobato, Dehaes, Markus Appollonio and Maikin are some other fast guys who stand a chance. Not too sure about the form of some of them though.
 
Riis123
Lobato!

The question is, how did today's stage impact the GC? Alot of people apparantly lost time today. Still pretty damn hard to predict the outcome of this race. And btw, does anyone have the gradients of the hill or mountain or whatever on 5th stage? I have no idea how hard that is.
Edited by Riis123 on 03-08-2014 21:15
 
Anderis
Riis123 wrote:
And btw, does anyone have the gradients of the hill or mountain or whatever on 5th stage? I have no idea how hard that is.

It's not particularly hard. Average around 5%.

www.genetyk.com/podjazdy/strbske_pleso_s.gif
 
Riis123
Ahh ok, but afterall its 10 km long x3. I think it should be enough for Majka to create a decent gap
 
Dusen
Riis123 wrote:
Ahh ok, but afterall its 10 km long x3. I think it should be enough for Majka to create a decent gap


Non climbers could actually sit with the climbers on this.
It's gonna be hard for Majka or anyone else who isn't a ITT specialist to make any real gains on this stage.

Not a very impressive route this year Sad
 
Riis123
Dusen wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Ahh ok, but afterall its 10 km long x3. I think it should be enough for Majka to create a decent gap


Non climbers could actually sit with the climbers on this.
It's gonna be hard for Majka or anyone else who isn't a ITT specialist to make any real gains on this stage.

Not a very impressive route this year Sad


Yeah, you are probably right about that. It will of course come down to how the climb is ridden, but it will probably come down to a few seconds between the best. And its definetely a dull route. I think the whole design of the race is broken with the 4 first stages just being flat.
 
Dusen
Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Ahh ok, but afterall its 10 km long x3. I think it should be enough for Majka to create a decent gap


Non climbers could actually sit with the climbers on this.
It's gonna be hard for Majka or anyone else who isn't a ITT specialist to make any real gains on this stage.

Not a very impressive route this year Sad


Yeah, you are probably right about that. It will of course come down to how the climb is ridden, but it will probably come down to a few seconds between the best. And its definetely a dull route. I think the whole design of the race is broken with the 4 first stages just being flat.


Perhaps small differences can be made if they go from the very first time they hit it.

But i excpect a group of 15-20 riders to get to the line. I saw a similar mountain in Tour of California this year, and they where riding full speed from the buttom of the climb, and still reached the finish 10-15 riders.

And on that climb the gradient actually hit 6% once in a while. It doesn't on this one.

Ooh well, guess we can only wait and hope to be suprised on a positive note Grin
Edited by Dusen on 03-08-2014 22:44
 
Anderis
Riis123 wrote:
Ahh ok, but afterall its 10 km long x3. I think it should be enough for Majka to create a decent gap

It's not even that 10kms x3, first two times they will only ride a shorter version ending at 1220 meters height, according to the official website of the race.

Dusen wrote:
Not a very impressive route this year Sad

I agree but it's not easy to come up with much harder route in our country (last year was an exception because of visit in Italy). On the other hand, I imagine it was still withing possibilities of race organisers to do something better (stage in Cieszyn was always interesting IMO, but it's not here this year). Well, that's a route for Kwiatkowski, but Kwiatkowski is not here unfortunately. Polish riders haven't had any win in this race for quite a while, not even a single stage win. I believe this could play a role in what the route looks like this year.
 
SSJ2Luigi
is Weening able to repeat his win?
 
Avin Wargunnson
Anderis wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
And btw, does anyone have the gradients of the hill or mountain or whatever on 5th stage? I have no idea how hard that is.

It's not particularly hard. Average around 5%.

www.genetyk.com/podjazdy/strbske_pleso_s.gif

Not that hard? That climb is tough and roads (in the closing section) are even more brutal! Even more when you climb it three times...
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 04-08-2014 06:54
I'll be back
 
Avin Wargunnson
Riis123 wrote:
Dusen wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Ahh ok, but afterall its 10 km long x3. I think it should be enough for Majka to create a decent gap


Non climbers could actually sit with the climbers on this.
It's gonna be hard for Majka or anyone else who isn't a ITT specialist to make any real gains on this stage.

Not a very impressive route this year Sad


Yeah, you are probably right about that. It will of course come down to how the climb is ridden, but it will probably come down to a few seconds between the best. And its definetely a dull route. I think the whole design of the race is broken with the 4 first stages just being flat.

That circuit around Zakopane is extremely tough too. What do you guys expect, Angliru in Poland/Slovakia ???
I'll be back
 
Anderis
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Not that hard? That climb is tough and roads (in the closing section) are even more brutal! Even more when you climb it three times...

Judging by profiles, it's not even as tough as Montevergine di Mercogliano, a mountain that saw 42 guys finishing within 30 seconds on Giro d"italia stage in 2011. 5% of average gradient is not that hard at WT level.
 
SSJ2Luigi
I think Trek has a oppenent for the worst national champion jersey in CCC Rolling Eyes at least Trek improved their jerseys
 
niconico
This could be a pretty decent race. Especially interesting to see what kind of form Kwiatek and Majka have!

Shame you have to listen to the voice of Carlton Kirby all way through!
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Smoku
How the hell Vakoc manages to outlast peloton tempo on a completely flat stage? Guess he has it. Bravo
 
Dusen
idiot sprint teams -.-

Well done Vakoz.
 
Malkael
Dear god, if they do catch him before the line they sure are leaving it late. One lap to make up 1'19".
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admirschleck
It would be such a shame if they catch him. Go Petr!
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