Riis123 wrote:
I dont like the attitude on the forum when ppl get absolutely bashed for believing Froome, Porte, Contador etc. arent doped. I think the reason why is some of this forum's most respected persons (aquarius, issoisso and so on) kinda have dictated this forum's opinion through - very well argumented - accusations against those riders. If you are not on this wagon, you are basically stupid and naive.

Shonak wrote:

Honestly, I don't like it that you connect the reasoned, scientific argumentations of Aquarius with the bashing at times of other users. Aquarius is one of the best members around here, explaining so much on cycling and doping and he does it with great calmness. Whilst I agree that some people do use a rather "colourfull" language at times (me surely included now and then), I think it's too little to call it a serious issue, a bandwagon or any form of cyber-mobbing. I think you guys are cooking this whole matter way hotter than it actually is. Daily is a cool community, you guys just get worked up over nothing at times.

@Stromeon: Well, look at his last post and it's rather self explanatory I think.

admirschleck wrote:
Firstly, I never said Froome is the one that's doping (tho he is - in my opinion and in my head), so you can't connect that with the actual conversation. If you want me to express personal opinion, it's that all cyclists are taking drugs & doping as what they do is above normal. Yeah, tell me now that I am just a fatass sitting in front of computer which can't do anything except writing posts on the forum and that I'd have to train hard to get to their level, but no - these kind of arguments are just for stupid people and for little kids. I really feel sorry for all of you that you believe in it. I believe that all cyclists are doped, but it's kind of open secret it seems. What they do is beyond the limits of a normal people (not a fatass, not a game/nolifer, not someone that can't do anything, but beyond limits of a great athlete that's training properly and regulary).

Secondly, I never said that he's stupid. I said that he's stupid IF...if - so if you find it offensive, I am sorry - you're the one. I also do have all rights to call him a moron, a stupid person and whatever I want if he calls me an (pessimistic) idiot. That's once again my personal opinion. To return on the topic, it was discussed many times before and the guy is the member of this community for 2 years, so he probably already read all the shit that were written in all these doping & real cycling threads and he's still blinded by medias & what most of the teams says in medias. I'd behave different if it was someone that just signed up to this site, definitely.

Thirdly - no. He definitely didn't mean "that the atmosphere on Daily is if you don't admit Froome is doped (even though there is no definitive evidence) you are stupid" but that we're actual cunts that can't just accept the fact that someone is better than us so we love to blame the cheaters & dopers. Once again, it's not true. At all. Come up with a good arguments that can beat something like lluuiiggiis post (I don't think that anyone else can make and write few good arguments such as Luigi. In fact, I don't have words for all these cycling expers on site. Go to work as DS's, as doctors or something like that and leave us normal people live in peace.)

Now I bothered myself to write this, I'll let you discuss about this for a week and kill you each other with arguments. Good luck.

EDIT: That message was prepared whole night (just few minutes after all this shit started), I just forgot to post it. LOL.

Riis123 wrote:
My post really wasnt meant to offend those I did mention, but when reading it again, it might seem like it. To be clear, I really enjoy to read especially Aquarias' post as he posesses knowledge and will to actually express that knowledge so a regular cycling-fan should be able to understand what he is syaing. My point just is, those very well-argumented posts have convinced a lot (rightfully so, because i want to state once again that i really enjoy those and its most definetely not a critique) that that is the 100% undeniable truth, and people who thnik otherwise are dumb.

CountArach wrote:
Froome or Contador, it doesn't matter. Whoever wins, we lose.

547984 wrote:
Me thinks all clean except Gesink

Schleck96 wrote:


You better edit your post, or the Gesink fanboy brigade will kill you

Shonak wrote:

On the contrary, do we need someone who calls the forum pessimistic idiots after reading some posts? No one bashes people here, everyone is entitled to their opinion. The only guy who really is below acceptable discussion level is... well, you know, that one kiddo with a usa city nickname (... and he supports you know who

dark_x2012 wrote:
Wasn't this supposed to be a TdF discussion rather than a doping one.

Strydz wrote:
Wow this thread fell apart quite quickly