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Volta Ciclista a Catalunya Discussion
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| Rin |
Posted on 06-05-2014 20:02
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It is always that PCM ignores some sprinters and that is since years.
If you don't have the Top 3-4 sprinters in the race forget about the train.
If you don't have the Top 8-9 sprinters in the race don't expect to be at the front of a sprint final.
Thats why I took Bennati with 83 in SP he will be 95% sure at the front at every flat stage, the other 5% bad positioning (nevermind if narrow roads or a too wobbly stage) and falling down
That was a great leadout.. Well for the others.
Edited by Rin on 06-05-2014 20:04
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| Smowz |
Posted on 06-05-2014 20:33
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Nice to see the sprinters have their day, even if it did seem quite chaotic. Santos will have easier sprints to have a go at this year. Hope he goes a bit better next year.
As alex says we couls see one of em in yellow after next stage which could get right up Phinney's massive nose.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 06-05-2014 21:39
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Looked like a challenge to get in position, but Merino Criado and then Swift delivered perfectly 
Pity Bos couldn't have kept Swift's wheel and used him as a leadout though! 
4 seconds from the race lead now, so you guys know who to cheer on 
Edited by SportingNonsense on 06-05-2014 21:40
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| Roman |
Posted on 06-05-2014 23:44
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Well, at least Howard tried.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 07-05-2014 14:17
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Well that was chaos.
Metinvest are having a good race.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 07-05-2014 14:43
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Another win for a Demare-ish rider, but I guess the game goes a bit too far if every slightly undulating profile already rules out 95% of the top sprinters for a podium result.
Something I observed while riding a few TdF's for statistical purposes is that the main sprinters stay in the middle of the peloton until 18k to go when they sprint to the front behind their leadouts at sometimes 80km/h while the puncheur-sprinters are already at the front.
Which should result in the sprinters not only losing energy in the hilly sections, but a massive lot only to make up their strange positioning, while the Trofimov's and Ignatiev's are preserving energy both in the hills and in the sprint preparation.
I wonder if some reporters have observed such a behaviour in their reporting, it is definitely something that could cause those results and should be addressed for future PCM editions.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 07-05-2014 14:49
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No bonus seconds for Trofimov and Phinney, in the end. I can live with that.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 07-05-2014 15:05
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I hope Ignatiev does that in the PCT and as a consequence crashes due to getting involved in the sprint. Otherwise Reus and my goals are screwed
Nice win for Vueling, though it was a bizarre stage and hillier than it looked from the profile. |
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| ember |
Posted on 07-05-2014 15:38
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Surprising result on what definitely looked like a very flat stage. Van Heerden looked like he had nothing left in the tank for the sprint, and I can only wonder "what if" about Impey
A very nice win for Vueling, and a welcomed podium for Ignatiev as well. Will be interesting to see how the hilly stages play out here compared to T-A. Can time trialists like Ignatiev and Coppel hang on? |
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| beagle |
Posted on 07-05-2014 15:54
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Too hard for Mohs, unfortunately. And now to the hills!
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| SotD |
Posted on 07-05-2014 16:26
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More blah-shit-waste-of-time'ish-stuff from Guerao.
He really sucks this far. I suspect he will do well here and there where there are hardly any other sprinters present, but all of these races where he will meet 3-4 similar sprinters then he will be 7-15th.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 07-05-2014 16:29
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SotD wrote:
More blah-shit-waste-of-time'ish-stuff from Guerao.
He really sucks this far. I suspect he will do well here and there where there are hardly any other sprinters present, but all of these races where he will meet 3-4 similar sprinters then he will be 7-15th.
He has 64 hill and most of his support stats are rubbish (including his acceleration) so did you honestly expect anything more?
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| roturn |
Posted on 07-05-2014 16:56
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Good thing that Thurau went into the breakaway and LLS did not lose time.
Bad thing that Nizzolo was able to keep contact with the main pack unlike other sprinters and still was not interested to sprint for a possible top10 here.
Also I wonder if it was smarter for ember to go for Impey as solo sprinter instead of their duo. This could have been a perfect stage for Impey but the team obviously went for Van Heerden. Why not split and use one of them here and one in Tirreno or Paris Nice? ( Now I read you wonder, too. )
Congrats to Crue True, who gets a few stage wins recently.
Edited by roturn on 07-05-2014 16:58
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 07-05-2014 17:10
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Harder than expected, at least Swift got 3rd. Pity Ignatiev's bonus seconds mean I don't briefly get the race lead
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| ember |
Posted on 07-05-2014 17:13
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roturn wrote:
Also I wonder if it was smarter for ember to go for Impey as solo sprinter instead of their duo. This could have been a perfect stage for Impey but the team obviously went for Van Heerden. Why not split and use one of them here and one in Tirreno or Paris Nice? ( Now I read you wonder, too. )
Indeed. But before the season I thought AI would be able to figure that out, as AI managed it very well with at least two of Boasson Hagen, Impey and Vanoverschelde, in some races also all of them.
Having said that, they would have been in different races if it wasn't for that time trial that shouldn't have been in Catalunya. Then Boasson Hagen and Van Heerden would have been here, with Impey in one of the others. But that's one of the parts that makes this a great game. There's a lot of but's, if's and so on when something isn't going as planned |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 07-05-2014 20:54
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Bos got a top 10 in a ProTour race.
I don't care if I come dead last in the league this year, that's amazing
Edited by Crommy on 07-05-2014 20:54
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 09-05-2014 06:25
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CountArach wrote:
Metinvest are having a good race.
I would say fantastic. 
Acutally these are our best results during the whole season now, combined with PCT...
Ignatiev proving the nature already and that GC lead is something great for whole team of Metinvest. Something like that was just a dream three years back, when the team was assembled.
Also out future leading duo of Grosu and Zmorka are showing themselves in great fashion, so much exposure for our colours. I hope Ignatiev will continue with his great form and will try to hold the super punchers back few more days, to battle it out with Phinney and Coppel in the TT.
Also where is all that PCT support, last years were better in cheering for fellow PCT managers doing good in PT wildcards (here is just jph hoping for Ignatiev to crash out). 
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 09-05-2014 06:57
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| jph27 |
Posted on 09-05-2014 06:47
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I support Ignatiev here, just I pray for his downfall in PCT races. If he beats Coppel I'll feel a little better as well. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 09-05-2014 06:56
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jph27 wrote:
I support Ignatiev here, just I pray for his downfall in PCT races. If he beats Coppel I'll feel a little better as well.
I know, i could not resist.
So thanks for the support.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 09-05-2014 06:56
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 09-05-2014 12:50
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Nice stage, Trofimov with a vital win, the jersey plus the seconds he gained give gim a good chance now against Phinney and Gesink. Gesink unlucky ending without bonus seconds here with two of his biggest rivals making gains.
Cheering for Lulu and Rothaus to get Top 5 and today's stage shows they can. Ignatiev rode great race, no surprise, he is a beast. If he rides same tomorrow then who knows, even a overall win isn't out of sight.
Edited by Alakagom on 09-05-2014 12:53
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