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| ruben |
Posted on 15-01-2008 18:49
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issoisso wrote:
Gesink and Van Avermaet I can buy, but not the others. it's too soon. No one breaks out in their first year unless they're sprinters. And even then it's very rare. Gesink last year? (top 40 pt) Time triallers and climbers, at least very good ones, do well immediately. Also look at Popovych in his first year |
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| samtheman |
Posted on 15-01-2008 19:00
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I said Froome and Martin because I had to be chauvinistic or homerish as you call it after reading what the others wrote
I don't think Andy Schleck will have any results as good as his podium in the giro last year, and I don't think Gesink will make another big step quite yet. I agree with isso that most of the riders mentioned are still a bit too young, but I agree with Mandri and Breschel. Especially Breschel will be a rider to watch. Apart from that I think that maybe Alexander Efimkin, Igor Anton or Maxime Monfort. And Phillippe Gilbert. I am also hoping that Wegmann and Kopp will be able to get a few bigger results
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-01-2008 19:04
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it's not just the spanish. it pains me to say it, but there's a lot of teams with a good/semi-good reputation that are all fireworks and no real substance. meaning: they say all the right things but their riders are doped.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-01-2008 19:07
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samtheman wrote:
I don't think Andy Schleck will have any results as good as his podium in the giro last year, and I don't think Gesink will make another big step quite yet.
agreed on both counts.
samtheman wrote:
Especially Breschel will be a rider to watch.
yeah, I think he has a chance of being a top cobbles rider
samtheman wrote:
Apart from that I think that maybe Alexander Efimkin, Igor Anton or Maxime Monfort. And Phillippe Gilbert. I am also hoping that Wegmann and Kopp will be able to get a few bigger results
Monfort intrigues me. he's one of those guys going into a make-or-break year. this time next year we'll have a pretty good indication whether he'll be a great rider or a decent one.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 15-01-2008 21:28
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Well, if I'm to be main stream and be biased, I'll have to say Matti Breschel. He rode an acceptable Paris-Roubaix last season, and he's ready for the big jump now.
Other than that, I also hope to see Van Avermaet in front this season. |
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| rodda |
Posted on 15-01-2008 22:59
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issoisso wrote:
looking through this topic, who wasn't chauvinistic besides Crommy? stuart and setzel because their countries have no riders who can possibly be revelations 
haha cmon haussler is german even if he does speak with an australian accent
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-01-2008 23:00
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Well ofcourse Gesink won't make the same big step as last year. If that would happen, he would already be the best rider in the world 
If he has a similar season, or slightly better, he has done well. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-01-2008 23:05
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rodda wrote:
issoisso wrote:
looking through this topic, who wasn't chauvinistic besides Crommy? stuart and setzel because their countries have no riders who can possibly be revelations
haha cmon haussler is german even if he does speak with an australian accent
born in New South Wales, bred in New South Wales, moved to Germany as a teenager to turn professional in cycling. had trouble adapting because he didn't speak any german.
I'd consider him Australian
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 16-01-2008 00:26
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C'mon be realistic. There's no way, and mark my words, no way whatsoever, that Phinney will be a revelation this year. Sure there's no clear definition on a 'revelation', but I'll buy Mads Kaggestad in the Management Game if Phinney becomes a 2008 revelation.
Sure he's a great talent, but geez, the guy (boy) is just 16 years old.
I was under the impression he is 18 but when he medals in Beijing you can tell me he isn't a 2008 revelation.
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 16-01-2008 00:30
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Levi4life wrote:
I was under the impression he is 18 but when he medals in Beijing you can tell me he isn't a 2008 revelation.
*bonk bonk* Realism check! There is no way a 16 y/o punk that can ride a bike can win a medal.
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Posted on 16-01-2008 00:31
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he won the US individual pursuit in his first ever competative track event.B)
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 16-01-2008 00:35
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Levi4life wrote:
he won the US individual pursuit in his first ever competative track event.B)
We might have had this discussion before, but i refuse to acknowledge that the level of cycling in the US is high enough to make a serious (as in SERIOUS SERIOUS) attempt at winning as a national team.
(i sense im about to get flamed...)
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Posted on 16-01-2008 00:46
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 At the beijing World Cup Phinney took 4th and Wiggins won by a tenth of a second.
Among Phinney's competition at the US champs was Mike Freidman, who won the scratch race at Beijing World Cup.
Brad huff dominated the Pan-Am Games.
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 16-01-2008 00:55
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Meh, i give up arguing. I wanna sleep.
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| KurtinSC |
Posted on 16-01-2008 01:32
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Waghlon wrote:
Levi4life wrote:
he won the US individual pursuit in his first ever competative track event.B)
We might have had this discussion before, but i refuse to acknowledge that the level of cycling in the US is high enough to make a serious (as in SERIOUS SERIOUS) attempt at winning as a national team.
(i sense im about to get flamed...)
I don't pretend to know how well Phinney might do, but the US has had some success in olympic cycling. Marty Nothstein won the Mens Sprint in 2000 and got second in 1996, Erin Hartwell got 2nd in the 1000m mens time trial in 1996. The road racers have had some success as well, with Lance getting 3rd in the 2000 time trial, Tyler Hamilton getting 1st in 2004 and Bobby Julich getting 3rd.
Now the US certainly isn't Australia on the track and they certainly aren't Italy or Spain on the road... but I think they probably get a little less credit than they deserve.
As for Phinney, he's a ridiculous talent but I'd be shocked if he medaled at 18 (which I believe would be at the olympics). He's only been cycling for a couple of years. But considering both parents were US cycling champions it would not shock me if he got VERY good, VERY quickly.
But not this year. My bet is he'll be on a competitive team in 2009, win something in 2010 and maybe hit a grand tour in 2011 or 2012. |
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Posted on 16-01-2008 16:34
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Phinney will medal in the individual pursuit, but Wiggins will beat him
you really haven't got a clue how good Wiggins is until you see him racing (actually being there)
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| issoisso |
Posted on 18-01-2008 18:30
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I'm wondering if this is the year we'll see something from Dmytro Grabovskyy
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| ruben |
Posted on 18-01-2008 18:32
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Good question, last year he had visum problems and injury troubles. I still expect him to be one of the future greats, especially in time trials and hilly classics |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 18-01-2008 18:43
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Ruben wrote:
I still expect him to be one of the future greats
wow 
tall order. what makes you so optimistic?
Edited by issoisso on 18-01-2008 18:43
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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 19-01-2008 17:27
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Waghlon wrote:
*bonk bonk* Realism check! There is no way a 16 y/o punk that can ride a bike can win a medal.
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Seventeen-year-old Taylor Phinney can pen another page in his quickly growing book of cycling successes. Phinney poured it on when it counted. Riding just the seventh individual pursuit of his career, the high school senior rode with the calculated panache of a veteran to grab his first-ever World Cup victory, defeating Dutchman Jenning Huizenga in a winning time of 4:26:09. |
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