That is true, but if you would have read this thread you should have found out that there is a problem with the objectives. And if you need to select silly objectives to get your riders happy, you cannot use the objectives to do the race participation.
No matter how you put it, the whole planning is pure crap.
These are the most stupid problems: Planning is locked
The objectives have to be set in the first days of the season and the schedules have to be done 3 or 4 times a year. Both cannot be changed after.
This might be OK for PT teams but is just bogus for Pro-Conti-teams which have to ask for wild cards and should be able to adapt to the objectives (and schedules). Generally it is not needed/useful to change the schedules once they have been set based on the objectives.
Fitness curve not accurate
I have set the objectives to get the best possible fitness. But when I look at it in mid of march, the tiredness estimation change drastically. If you cannot change the objectives, then the estimation has to be accurate.
Edit: I found out that it was caused by the pre-season training camp. Once again Cyanide forget to check if the existing features break the new features. But instead you will now receive an email telling you to use the pre-season camps (and therefore mess up the season of all newbies. Good job Cyanide: Perfect way to scare away first time players for sure).
Silly objective feedback
Riders evaluate the given objectives using most stupid logic. I had an 18 year old youth rider in a Conti-team which was very happy after I have set Giro, Tour and Vuelta as his objectives.
My team captain (Zoidl) doesn't like any of the austrian races (and to make it even worse gives a snappy feedback like: "Maybe I should rider more races in my neighbourhood".
Edited by Lachi on 20-07-2013 22:35
I agree, they purely dont work. I dont think they put much thought into the application of these goals!
I mean for example, Im Rapha Condor JLT in my career save, just starting the 2nd season again in the 'conti' league (didnt get promotion, determined to win on hard mode!...but failing!) and i have signed a decent climber out of contact from OPQS....however, he is used to riding in a UCI world tour team and his default objectives are 'TdF', 'Paris-Nice' etc etc, races that i cannot obv enter due to being restricted to lower league races!.......then a big sponsor objective is Tour of Britain, i set this as his objective and he hates it, no interest and low prestige.
So really, just to clear this up for me, for this rider im just going to have to set his objectives as high category races even though i am not eligible to ride them?...but just to match those objectives so the fitness matches my sponsors?!
Hopefully the next patch may improve this. I've always thought PCM should look at the style of 'Football Manager' series, i understand the difference in audience and target market etc, but still, could maybe use a good few features from them, espically in regards to player<>manager contact.
If Cyanide isn't able to fix this in the next patch, they should just scrap the whole idea and go back to they way it was. The good old days when all riders where so happy all the time that you could send them to ride over a minefield.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
I think they just FIX IT with the new Update (26.JULY).
The logic behind the objectives is still a bit bogus, specially cause they keep getting riders specialisation wrong. But now you can control fitness peaks and fatigue in a very precise way.
cymarel wrote:
I think the just FIX IT with the new Update (26.JULY).
The logic behind the objectives is still a bit bogus, specially cause they keep getting riders specialisation wrong. But now you can control fitness peaks and fatigue in a very precise way.
YES!!
Yeah..but I think it will make fitness schedule exploitable because AI used preset schedule.Can we edit AI preset schedule to make them peak at the right time?
ticcque wrote:
Yeah..but I think it will make fitness schedule exploitable because AI used preset schedule.Can we edit AI preset schedule to make them peak at the right time?
It was like that in all previous games, nobody ever complaint. But if the fitness schedules are really back, you could update them for the AI riders.
ticcque wrote:
Yeah..but I think it will make fitness schedule exploitable because AI used preset schedule.Can we edit AI preset schedule to make them peak at the right time?
It was like that in all previous games, nobody ever complaint. But if the fitness schedules are really back, you could update them for the AI riders.
OK, i don´t want to bother through pages to find this bug, but wanna know more about this. I´m in third season of career with custom team, but never the less...we survived first two and managed to progress into top level of UCI, but now...on third season, i cannot figure out objectives. Anyone else have this.... and know the fix? ... i´m so dissapointed that i lost interest in 2013. I would go and buy newest one 2014.... but, allready bought 3 edititions and every one of them cary a lot of bugs!
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