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| Selwink |
Posted on 06-05-2013 07:10
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White jersey
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Tejay Van Garderen
Tejay is the top favorite for the white jersey in the edition of 2013. He already proved to be a good climber and time trialist. This already brought him the white jersey in the tour of last year. This year, he will also aim on the Giro.
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Andrew Talansky, Nairo Quintana
Andrew had his big breakthrough in the Vuelta of last year. He finished in a very good top10, with practically only mountains. He is also known for his good tt, which will surely help him to get a result that's good. He might have to work for Hesjedal however.
Nairo Quintana was always seen as a very big talent. He also experienced his breakthrough in the Vuelta of last year, not with a good GC, but with his strenght for a GT and extremely good climbing. With a decent TT, he might very well finish with the white jersey in Brescia.
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Carlos Betancur, Wilco Kelderman, Diego Ulissi
Carlos Betancur has so far been very strong in the Giro. In 2011, when he was very unexperienced, he almost won a stage, but was beaten by Kiriyenka. Last year he did win, and for this year, he aims on stages and a good GC. His tt might be a problem.
Wilco Kelderman became a pro cyclist last year. Immediately in his first race, the Tour Down Under, he became 21st. Later on, he won the white jersey of both the Tour of California and the Dauphiné, where he was also 8th in the GC. This is his first GT ever.
Diego Ulissi is an Italian rider who has grown a lot in the past few years. In 2011, he drove his first GT and Giro ever, and he immediately won a stage by beating Visconti. After a rather disappointing 2012 he feels ready to go for white this edition.
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Ion Izagirre, Tony Gallopin, Esteban Chaves, Luke Durbridge
Ion Izagirre of Euskaltel doesn't ride his first GT ever here. Last year, he also participated, with success. He won a very difficult stage and arrived at the finish line on his own. Being a very good climber and decent at the time trials, he will be a dangerous outsider.
Tony Gallopin is a very good example of what we can call all-round. When driving for Cofidis, he drove top-10 in mass sprints of the tour. Last year he showed he could handle the shorter mountains and his team is confident he can also handle the Alpine mountains.
Esteban Chaves is a very typical Colombian rider. He is small, a good climber, and not very good at the time trials. With almost 100kms of time trial in the Giro this year, this might give him trouble. He is confident he can regain this time in the mountains however.
Luke Durbridge is not a very good climber. He realizes, yet he is going for the white jersey here. He can do this, because of the many kilometers that have to be driven solo. Luke is a real specialist in the time trial and could gain a lot on his rivals there.
Tejay van Garderen 1.95
Andrew Talansky 2.50
Nairo Quintana 2.85
Carlos Betancur 3.70
Wilco Kelderman 4.25
Diego Ulissi 4.80
Ion Izagirre 5.30
Tony Gallopin 6.05
Esteban Chaves 9.75
Luke Durbridge 12.50
Another rider 10.00
Edited by Selwink on 07-05-2013 07:59
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| Selwink |
Posted on 06-05-2013 07:10
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Stage 1
The Giro starts with a flat stage this year. Unfortunately, PCM has a version that's a bit hillier, yet still called flat. The finish follows after a downhill, making it interesting for those who can both sprint and survive a small hill. A break will probably be in front, but whether they can make it is unsure.
**** Matthew Goss
***John Degenkolb, Mark Cavendish
**Philippe Gilbert, André Greipel, Filippo Pozzato
*Elia Viviani, Nacer Bouhanni, Alexander Kristoff, Tyler Farrar
Matthew Goss 1.85
John Degenkolb 2.20
Mark Cavendish 2.45
Philippe Gilbert 3.10
André Greipel 3.65
Filippo Pozzato 4.10
Elia Viviani 4.75
Nacer Bouhanni 5.75
Alexander Kristoff 8.00
Tyler Farrar 10.00
Another rider 3.00
Edited by Selwink on 07-05-2013 08:34
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| Selwink |
Posted on 07-05-2013 08:44
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The first bets are up. The 'game' has started now. Good luck to everyone!
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| cio93 |
Posted on 07-05-2013 09:03
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The perfect opening stage for John, we're definitely trying to get in Pink today with Degenkolb supported by strong hills/sprint leadouts Geschke and De Kort. 
Good luck everyone on the road and with the bets!
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 07-05-2013 10:10
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you bet with PM's?
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| Selwink |
Posted on 07-05-2013 11:43
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
you bet with PM's?
Yep, otherwise someone else could see your bet. I dont know anything else that would work.
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| lakebeach |
Posted on 07-05-2013 11:57
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How many betting points do everyone have at the beginning?
"It's very hard to work with other guys because nobody wants to work with me so it's better to drop everybody." - Peter Sagan |
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| Selwink |
Posted on 07-05-2013 11:57
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Can be found in the bet post, but you get 18 (3 for each bet on average)
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| lakebeach |
Posted on 07-05-2013 11:58
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Selwink wrote:
Can be found in the bet post, but you get 18 (3 for each bet on average)
thanks
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 07-05-2013 12:24
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Good luck everyone! Hopes for Teejay winning white , TTT win and Cadel getting TOP5!
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| Selwink |
Posted on 07-05-2013 12:28
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Give it a bet I should say
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| Selwink |
Posted on 08-05-2013 15:17
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Deadline of bet passed
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 08-05-2013 15:20
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8th may 16:30 GMT+1
Nah, 10 minutes left
My PM is still before the deadline, isn't it?
Edited by Jesleyh on 08-05-2013 15:20
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| Selwink |
Posted on 08-05-2013 15:21
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Jesleyh wrote:
8th may 16:30 GMT+1
Nah, 10 minutes left
My PM is still before the deadline, isn't it?
Oh, thought it was 16:15
Sorry everyone
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| Selwink |
Posted on 08-05-2013 15:41
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Deadline has really passed now, only 8 bets. Anyway, stage will be raced as soon as the Giro stage has finished
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| Selwink |
Posted on 08-05-2013 17:11
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Napoli-Napoli
Hello, welcome to stage 1 of this edition of the Giro. The stage is called flat, but we go over a circuit with a quite difficult hill in it.
We join you with 70kms left, at the foot of Monte Possilipo. We have had a break of 4 riders for all day now. Our 4 leaders are Bongiorno for Bardiani, Pantano for Colombia, Bandiera for IAM and Le Bon for FDJ. At sprint 1, Bandiera grabbed victory ahead of Pantano and Le Bon.
The pack has given the group a lead of 5min27. The riders of Omega Pharma, Lotto, GreenEdge, Saxo and Garmin are now working on the reeling in of this group.
Not much drama until the ascent of the Possilipo, where we now have a mountain sprint for the first points. Le Bon takes it ahead of Bandiera.
At the second intermediate sprint, Bandiera takes the points ahead of Pantano and Bongiorno.
At the second to last ascent of Possilipo and the last with points, Bandiera beats Pantano and Bongiorno.
When entering the last lap, the lead is just 56 seconds left.
Just before the last climb of Possilipo, the last rider of the break, Bandiera, is reeled in.
With 5kms left, Cav has trouble in the pack.
2kms left: Matthews leads out Goss. A mass sprint finish is coming up.
The mass sprint is won by:
John Degenkolb! He beats the others with a significant gap. Bennati is the first loser, Modolo completes todays podium.
Stage results
| Rank | Name | Team | Time | | 1 | John Degenkolb | Team Argos - Shimano | 3h54'17 | | 2 | Daniele Bennati | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | s.t. | | 3 | Sacha Modolo | Bardiani Valvole - CSF Inox | s.t. | | 4 | Nacer Bouhanni | FDJ | s.t. | | 5 | José Joaquín Rojas | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 6 | Jürgen Roelandts | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 7 | Matthew Goss | Orica - GreenEdge | s.t. | | 8 | Alexander Kristoff | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 9 | Gianni Meersman | Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 10 | Manuel Belletti | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 11 | Tyler Farrar | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 12 | Stefano Garzelli | Vini Fantini - Selle Italia | s.t. | | 13 | Michael Matthews | Orica - GreenEdge | s.t. | | 14 | Elia Viviani | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 15 | Ryder Hesjedal | Garmin - Sharp | s.t. | | 16 | Fumiyuki Beppu | Orica - GreenEdge | s.t. | | 17 | Lars Ytting Bak | Lotto Belisol | s.t. | | 18 | Oscar Gatto | Vini Fantini - Selle Italia | s.t. | | 19 | Luis León Sánchez | Blanco Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 20 | Francesco Chicchi | Vini Fantini - Selle Italia | s.t. |
Spoiler 21 Taylor Phinney BMC Racing Team s.t.
22 Niki Terpstra Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
23 Fabio Taborre Vini Fantini - Selle Italia s.t.
24 Dario Cataldo Sky Procycling s.t.
25 Pieter Weening Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
26 Bauke Mollema Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
27 Gert Steegmans Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
28 Giacomo Nizzolo RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
29 Sergio Henao Sky Procycling s.t.
30 Luke Durbridge Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
31 Daniel Martin Garmin - Sharp s.t.
32 Roberto Ferrari Lampre - Merida s.t.
33 Sylvain Chavanel Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
34 Tony Martin Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
35 Michele Scarponi Lampre - Merida s.t.
36 Chris Froome Sky Procycling s.t.
37 Thomas De Gendt Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
38 Samuel Sánchez Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
39 Damiano Cunego Lampre - Merida s.t.
40 Rinaldo Nocentini AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
41 Paolo Tiralongo Astana Pro Team s.t.
42 Nairo Quintana Movistar Team s.t.
43 Franco Pellizotti Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
44 Rigoberto Urán Sky Procycling s.t.
45 Gorka Izagirre Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
46 Mark Cavendish Omega Pharma - Quick·Step Cycling Team s.t.
47 Domenico Pozzovivo AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
48 Rui Costa Movistar Team s.t.
49 Mauro Santambrogio Vini Fantini - Selle Italia s.t.
50 Michael Albasini Orica - GreenEdge s.t.
51 Michael Rogers Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
52 Greg Henderson Lotto Belisol s.t.
53 Bradley Wiggins Sky Procycling s.t.
54 Fabio Felline Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
55 André Greipel Lotto Belisol s.t.
56 Bart De Clercq Lotto Belisol s.t.
57 Ramunas Navardauskas Garmin - Sharp s.t.
58 Mikel Nieve Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
59 Simon Geschke Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
60 Tom Veelers Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
61 Adam Hansen Lotto Belisol s.t.
62 Koen De Kort Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
63 Matteo Pelucchi IAM Cycling s.t.
64 Borut Božic Astana Pro Team s.t.
65 Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
66 Matteo Rabottini Vini Fantini - Selle Italia s.t.
67 Francesco Reda Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
68 Alberto Contador Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
69 Guillaume Bonnafond AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
70 Alejandro Valverde Movistar Team s.t.
71 Fredrik Kessiakoff Astana Pro Team s.t.
72 Filippo Pozzato Lampre - Merida s.t.
73 Tom Dumoulin Team Argos - Shimano s.t.
74 Fabian Wegmann Garmin - Sharp s.t.
75 Hubert Dupont AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
76 Beñat Intxausti Movistar Team s.t.
77 Joaquím Rodríguez Katusha Team s.t.
78 Ivan Basso Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
79 Daniel Moreno Katusha Team s.t.
80 Carlos Betancur AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
81 Elia Favilli Lampre - Merida s.t.
82 Brent Bookwalter BMC Racing Team s.t.
83 Wilco Kelderman Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
84 Roman Kreuziger Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
85 Andrew Talansky Garmin - Sharp s.t.
86 Cadel Evans BMC Racing Team s.t.
87 José Rujano Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
88 Cayetano Sarmiento Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
89 Anthony Roux FDJ s.t.
90 Lieuwe Westra Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
91 Denis Menchov Katusha Team s.t.
92 Janez Brajkovič Astana Pro Team s.t.
93 Mikel Astarloza Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
94 Stefano Pirazzi Bardiani Valvole - CSF Inox s.t.
95 Fabian Cancellara RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
96 Philippe Gilbert BMC Racing Team s.t.
97 Tomasz Marczynski Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
98 Daniele Ratto Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
99 Emanuele Sella Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
100 Andrea Guardini Astana Pro Team s.t.
101 Johnny Hoogerland Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
102 Gorka Verdugo Euskaltel - Euskadi s.t.
103 Robert Gesink Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
104 Robert Kiserlovski RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
105 Tejay Van Garderen BMC Racing Team s.t.
106 Francesco Bongiorno Bardiani Valvole - CSF Inox s.t.
107 Jarlinson Pantano Colombia s.t.
108 Vladimir Gusev Katusha Team s.t.
109 Sylwester Szmyd Movistar Team s.t.
110 Vincenzo Nibali Astana Pro Team s.t.
111 Johan Le Bon FDJ s.t.
112 Enrico Battaglin Bardiani Valvole - CSF Inox s.t.
113 Giampaolo Caruso Katusha Team s.t.
114 Thomas Löfkvist IAM Cycling s.t.
115 Guillaume Boivin Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
116 Sandy Casar FDJ s.t.
117 Stefano Locatelli Bardiani Valvole - CSF Inox s.t.
118 Laurent Pichon FDJ s.t.
119 Esteban Chaves Colombia s.t.
120 Robinson Chalapud Colombia s.t.
121 Manuele Boaro Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
122 Arnold Jeannesson FDJ s.t.
123 Damiano Caruso Cannondale Pro Cycling s.t.
124 Juan Manuel Gárate Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
125 Steven Kruijswijk Blanco Pro Cycling Team s.t.
126 Diego Ulissi Lampre - Merida s.t.
127 Johann Tschopp IAM Cycling s.t.
128 Marcel Wyss IAM Cycling s.t.
129 Gustav Erik Larsson IAM Cycling s.t.
130 Fabio Duarte Colombia s.t.
131 Filippo Fortin Bardiani Valvole - CSF Inox s.t.
132 John Darwin Atapuma Colombia s.t.
133 Marco Bandiera IAM Cycling s.t.
134 Sérgio Paulinho Team Saxo - Tinkoff s.t.
135 Marco Pinotti BMC Racing Team s.t.
136 Kanstantsin Siutsou Sky Procycling + 2'36
137 Romain Feillu Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team s.t.
138 Tony Gallopin RadioShack - Leopard + 5'18
139 Tiago Machado RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
140 Jens Voigt RadioShack - Leopard s.t.
141 Carlos José Ochoa Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela + 6'30
142 Jackson Rodríguez Androni Giocattoli - Venezuela s.t.
143 Juan Pablo Suarez Colombia s.t.
144 Ion Izagirre Euskaltel - Euskadi + 7'09
Edited by Selwink on 08-05-2013 17:58
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 08-05-2013 17:14
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Meh, Guardini doing nothing in the pack... Couldn't get over the hills, I suppose.
Also, lost my bet...
Btw, you do make the betting odds before racing the stage, no?
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| Selwink |
Posted on 08-05-2013 17:16
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I make those odds, based on form and stats. Its quite difficult and random. I will post the standings and bet result after I had dinner
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 08-05-2013 17:19
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Selwink wrote:
I make those odds, based on form and stats. Its quite difficult and random. I will post the standings and bet result after I had dinner
form? You really mean form as in PCM(so Random form activated?), or just the last results he got in the 'virtual Giro'?
But okay, so you don't make them after the stage? Then it's fine, otherwise it would be easy to guess who wins the next stage
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 08-05-2013 17:36
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Silly Greipel, where were you? |
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