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The Sky is the limit - Extreme - Belgian opening weekend
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| wogsrus |
Posted on 29-04-2013 23:55
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Disappointing start so far in terms of results, but still early days. |
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| harry |
Posted on 30-04-2013 09:33
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wogsrus wrote:
Disappointing start so far in terms of results, but still early days.
To clearify a few things: I'm racing at EXTREME difficulty and many excellent sprinters are present in the Tour Down Under. In terms of sprint stats there are at least 10 better sprinters participating in the race! I do not expect Hagen to win from Sagan, Greipel, Kittel, Guardini and Degenkolb in the sprints and do not expect him to win or even finish on the podium in many stages. I do agree that a few places higher should be possible with a little more luck. The goal is to finish at a top 10 position in the general standings with Hagen or Thomas. With difficult and hilly stages still to come this is an excellent posibility as many climbers already lost quite some time. Personally I do not see these results as too dissapointing, but more as realistic.
Thanks a lot for reading....
Edit after stage 3: You're right. It is dissapointing...
Edited by harry on 30-04-2013 13:05
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| harry |
Posted on 30-04-2013 14:43
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Stage 3: Unley - Stirling 139 km
 Edvald Boasson Hagen -  Bernhard Eisel -  Mathew Hayman -  Luke Rowe - Chris Sutton - Geraint Thomas
Tankink arrived first at the Skoda King of the Mountain sprint before Gruzdev and Delage. Tankinkg and Gruzdev take off, while Delage was caught by the pack.
Tankink also took the first Jayco intermediate sprint at Longwood Road before Gruzdev. The pack followed at 2 minutes. Degenkolb took the last point just before Petacchi.
Tankink also secured the second Jayco sprint. Both attackers still had a 3 minute lead on the pack, where Degenkolb once more took the last second.
Dennis, Sorensen, Izagirre and Quintana escaped from the pack and tried to link up with Tankink and Gruzdev.
Due to several attacks by Martin, Kwiatkowski and Caruso the pack quickly gained ground on the breakaway.With 10 kilometers to go one by one the attackers are caught. Izagirre and Quintana held out a little longer.
In the sprint it was very suprisingly Hoogerland who won before Bouhanni and Machando.
Stage Results:
| 1 |  | Johnny Hoogerland | Vacansoleil - DCM | 4h03'06 | | 2 |  | Nacer Bouhanni | FDJ | s.t. | | 3 |  | Tiago José Pinto Machado | Radioshack - Leopard | s.t. | | 4 |  | Michal Kwiatkowski | OmegaPharma - Quick Step | s.t. | | 5 | | Sandy Casar | FDJ | s.t. | | 6 |  | Gianni Meersman | OmegaPharma - Quick Step | s.t. | | 7 |  | Jesse Sergent | Radioshack - Leopard | s.t. | | 8 | | Geraint Thomas | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 9 |  | Peter Velits | OmegaPharma - Quick Step | s.t. | | 10 | | Peter Sagan | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. |
General Standings:
| 1 |  | John Degenkolb | Team Argos-Shimano | 10h12'39 | | 2 | | Johnny Hoogerland | Vacansoleil - DCM | + 7 | | 3 | | Rory Sutherland | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | s.t. | | 4 | | Nacer Bouhanni | FDJ | + 11 | | 5 |  | Eduard Vorganov | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 6 | | Peter Sagan | Cannondale Pro Cycling | + 13 | | 7 | | Peter Velits | OmegaPharma - Quick Step | s.t. | | 8 | | Tiago José Pinto Machado | Radioshack - Leopard | s.t. | | 9 | | Simon Clarke | Orica - GreenEDGE | + 17 | | 10 | | Edvald Boasson Hagen | Sky ProCycling | s.t. |
Point Standings:
| 1 | | John Degenkolb | Team Argos-Shimano | 22 | | 2 | | Samuel Dumoulin | Ag2r - La Mondiale | 16 | | 3 |  | Andrea Guardini | Astana Pro Team | 14 | | 4 | | Bram Tankink | Blanco Pro Cycling | 12 | | 5 | | Anthony Roux | FDJ | 10 |
Mountain Standings:
| 1 | | Rory Sutherland | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | 16 | | 2 | | Bram Tankink | Blanco Pro Cycling | 16 | | 3 | | Samuel Dumoulin | Ag2r - La Mondiale | 16 | | 4 |  | Chris Horner | Radioshack - Leopard | 12 | | 5 |  | Dmitriy Gruzdev | Astana Pro Team | 12 |
Team Standings:
| 1 |  | Radioshack - Leopard | 30h38'48 | | 2 | | Vacansoleil - DCM | s.t. | | 3 | | Orica - GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 4 | | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 5 | | FDJ | s.t. |
Young Rider Standings:
| 1 | | John Degenkolb | Team Argos-Shimano | 10h12'39 | | 2 | | Nacer Bouhanni | FDJ | + 11 | | 3 | | Peter Sagan | Cannondale Pro Cycling | + 13 | | 4 | | Moreno Moser | Cannondale Pro Cycling | + 17 | | 5 |  | Guillaume Boivin | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. |
Edited by harry on 30-04-2013 18:19
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-04-2013 14:49
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Imageshack... 
Hoogerland! 
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 30-04-2013 15:34
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Nice to see Eddy Bos in the top ten  |
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| harry |
Posted on 30-04-2013 18:26
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Thomas and Boasson Hagen maintained in front of the pack nicely when the pack prepared to sprint for the stage win. Thomas managed to push to 8th position and Boasson Hagen had chosen the wheel of Peter Sagan, at that time an excellent choice. However in the sprint Sagan stalled and was passed by others, resulting that Boasson Hagen got boxed in. Several non sprinters managed to do really well by sprinting from very far. A missed chance for the Sky Team.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 30-04-2013 18:34
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Boasson Hagen will get other chances, i am sure of that |
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| harry |
Posted on 30-04-2013 21:16
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Stage 4: Modbury - Tanunda 126 km
Edvald Boasson Hagen - Bernhard Eisel - Mathew Hayman - Luke Rowe - Chris Sutton - Geraint Thomas
Grabsch, Perez, Brutt, Van de Walle, Kohler and Hayman escaped from the pack.
Kohler arrived first at the Skoda King of the Mountain sprint before Van de Walle, Grabsch, Brutt and Perez, while Hayman was in trouble.
As al escapies were far behind in the general standings, they didn't sprint for the Jayco intermediate sprint at Mt Pleasant. With only 45 kilometer to go the gap with the pack is just a little below 6 minutes.
Kohler and Brutt did sprint for the Jayco intermediate sprint at Springton. Kohler won. With 37 kilometers to go the pack was still more than 5 minutes behind.
Grabsch has left the other escapies behind. But eventually everybody is caught.
The race finished with a mass sprint, which was won by Sagan before Degenkolb and Renshaw
Stage Results:
| 1 | | Peter Sagan | Cannondale Pro Cycling | 3h04'12 | | 2 | | John Degenkolb | Team Argos-Shimano | s.t. | | 3 | | Mark Renshaw | Blanco Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 4 | | André Greipel | Lotto - Belisol | s.t. | | 5 | | Nacer Bouhanni | FDJ | s.t. | | 6 | | Andrea Guardini | Astana Pro Team | s.t. | | 7 | | Tyler Farrar | Garmin-Sharp | s.t. | | 8 | | Alessandro Petacchi | Lampre - Merida | s.t. | | 9 | | Giacomo Nizzolo | Radioshack - Leopard | s.t. | | 10 | | Elia Viviani | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. |
General Standings:
| 1 | | John Degenkolb | Team Argos-Shimano | 13h16'45 | | 2 | | Peter Sagan | Cannondale Pro Cycling | + 9 | | 3 | | Johnny Hoogerland | Vacansoleil - DCM | + 13 | | 4 | | Rory Sutherland | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | s.t. | | 5 | | Nacer Bouhanni | FDJ | + 17 | | 6 | | Eduard Vorganov | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 7 | | Peter Velits | OmegaPharma - Quick Step | + 19 | | 8 | | Tiago José Pinto Machado | Radioshack - Leopard | s.t. | | 9 | | Edvald Boasson Hagen | Sky ProCycling | + 23 | | 10 | | Simon Clarke | Orica - GreenEDGE | s.t. |
Point Standings:
| 1 | | John Degenkolb | Team Argos-Shimano | 28 | | 2 | | Samuel Dumoulin | Ag2r - La Mondiale | 16 | | 3 | | Andrea Guardini | Astana Pro Team | 14 | | 4 | | Peter Sagan | Cannondale Pro Cycling | 12 | | 5 | | Bram Tankink | Blanco Pro Cycling | 12 |
Mountain Standings:
| 1 | | Rory Sutherland | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | 16 | | 2 | | Bram Tankink | Blanco Pro Cycling | 16 | | 3 | | Samuel Dumoulin | Ag2r - La Mondiale | 16 | | 4 |  | Martin Kohler | BMC Racing Team | 16 | | 5 | | Chris Horner | Radioshack - Leopard | 12 |
Team Standings:
| 1 | | Astana Pro Team | 39h51'24 | | 2 | | Lampre - Merida | s.t. | | 3 | | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 4 | | Orica - GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 5 | | Radioshack - Leopard | s.t. |
Young Rider Standings:
| 1 | | John Degenkolb | Team Argos-Shimano | 13h16'45 | | 2 | | Peter Sagan | Cannondale Pro Cycling | + 9 | | 3 | | Nacer Bouhanni | FDJ | + 17 | | 4 | | Guillaume Boivin | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. | | 5 | | Moreno Moser | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. |
Edited by harry on 30-04-2013 21:25
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 30-04-2013 21:18
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Sagan doing what he does best: winning...
Hope EBH can hang on to top 10 and maybe gain a few places in the way, preferably tomorrow! |
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| PCM rulezz |
Posted on 30-04-2013 21:47
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Next stage will be very important, hope the team will do great 
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
It's difficult not to be happy when you're surrounded by Belgians. - Mark Cavendish
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 01-05-2013 10:35
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Nice to see Hayman in the break today |
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| harry |
Posted on 01-05-2013 22:02
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sutty68 wrote:
Nice to see Hayman in the break today
I tried to send guys into the breakaways in the first three stages as well but failed. Those Argos guys chased everybody to score some points with Degenkolb at the intermediate sprints. Or perhaps it was revenge for stopping with the Argos story. Nevertheless, I like it a lot that it is difficult to get into breakaways. This is much more realistic than I was used to in PCM11. Or is it a result of racing with extreme difficulty and that AI is cheating? |
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Posted on 01-05-2013 22:31
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Stage 5 will be a very important race in which undoubtfully the Tour Down Under will be decided. After his stage-win in stage 4 Sagan is the favourite for the victory, while Degenkolb struggled to tag along in the hilly third stage. Also the Sky riders Thomas and Boasson Hagen have their minds set on todays stage. For Boasson Hagen a sprint will be most desirable, while Thomas will try to secure the victory by an attack on the first passage of the Willunga Hill...
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 02-05-2013 03:28
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Hope Thomas has a Good day |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 02-05-2013 09:38
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Come on Team Sky!! |
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| harry |
Posted on 03-05-2013 22:08
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Stage 5: Snapper Point - Old Willunga Hill: 152 km
Edvald Boasson Hagen - Bernhard Eisel - Mathew Hayman - Luke Rowe - Chris Sutton - Geraint Thomas
Chérel, Castroviejo, Pozzato and Stannard managed to break away from the pack.
The first Jayco intermediate sprint at Snapper point was picked up by Chérel. He was still close in the general standings and aiming to move up. Pozzato, Castroviejo and Stannard followed at a small distance and the pack at more than 5 minutes.
The second Jayco intermediate sprint at Snapper Point was won by Pozzato before Castroviejo and Chérel. The pack followed at 3 minutes and is rapidly getting closer.
Several riders tried to make the jump to the leading group. Dennis, Caruso, Keukeleire and Sorensen were among them, while several other riders weren't able to follow the pace of the Argos - Shimano team and dropped behind.
Pozzato arrived first at the Skoda King of the Mountain sprint on Willunga Hill, before Chérel, Castroviejo, Caruso, Dennis, Keukeleire, Sorensen and Stannard. Martin and Kwiatkowski followed at 55 seconds and teh pack at 1'24.
At the foot of the Old Willunga Hill several riders attacked including Hoogerland, Martin, Sagan, Clarke and Thomas, while the sprinters waited a little longer on the climb. In the sprint that followed, Sagan showed that he was the fastest.
Stage Results:
| 1 | | Peter Sagan | Cannondale Pro Cycling | 3h33'06 | | 2 | | Johnny Hoogerland | Vacansoleil - DCM | s.t. | | 3 | | Simon Clarke | Orica - GreenEDGE | + 12 | | 4 | | Michal Kwiatkowski | OmegaPharma - Quick Step | + 33 | | 5 | | Daniele Ratto | Cannondale Pro Cycling | + 41 | | 6 |  | Daniel Martin | Garmin-Sharp | s.t. | | 7 | | Peter Velits | OmegaPharma - Quick Step | s.t. | | 8 | | Geraint Thomas | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 9 | | Chris Horner | Radioshack - Leopard | s.t. | | 10 | | Daniele Pietropolli | Lampre - Merida | s.t. |
General Standings:
| 1 | | Peter Sagan | Cannondale Pro Cycling | 16h49'50 | | 2 | | Johnny Hoogerland | Vacansoleil - DCM | + 8 | | 3 | | Simon Clarke | Orica - GreenEDGE | + 32 | | 4 | | Rory Sutherland | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | + 55 | | 5 | | Nacer Bouhanni | FDJ | + 59 | | 6 | | Peter Velits | OmegaPharma - Quick Step | + 1'01 | | 7 | | Tiago José Pinto Machado | Radioshack - Leopard | s.t. | | 8 | | Edvald Boasson Hagen | Sky ProCycling | + 1'05 | | 9 | | Gianni Meersman | OmegaPharma - Quick Step | s.t. | | 10 | | Moreno Moser | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. |
Point Standings:
| 1 | | John Degenkolb | Team Argos-Shimano | 28 | | 2 | | Peter Sagan | Cannondale Pro Cycling | 20 | | 3 | | Samuel Dumoulin | Ag2r - La Mondiale | 16 | | 4 | | Johnny Hoogerland | Vacansoleil - DCM | 14 | | 5 | | Andrea Guardini | Astana Pro Team | 14 |
Mountain Standings:
| 1 | | Peter Sagan | Cannondale Pro Cycling | 16 | | 2 | | Rory Sutherland | Team Saxo - Tinkoff | 16 | | 3 | | Bram Tankink | Blanco Pro Cycling | 16 | | 4 | | Filippo Pozzato | Lampre - Merida | 16 | | 5 | | Samuel Dumoulin | Ag2r - La Mondiale | 16 |
Team Standings:
| 1 | | Cannondale Pro Cycling | 50h32'04 | | 2 | | OmegaPharma - Quick Step | + 33 | | 3 | | Orica - GreenEDGE | + 57 | | 4 | | Radioshack - Leopard | + 1'26 | | 5 | | Vacansoleil - DCM | + 1'30 |
Young Rider Standings:
| 1 | | Peter Sagan | Cannondale Pro Cycling | 16h49'50 | | 2 | | Nacer Bouhanni | FDJ | 59 | | 3 | | Moreno Moser | Cannondale Pro Cycling | + 1'05 | | 4 | | Jens Keukeleire | Orica - GreenEDGE | s.t. | | 5 | | Daniele Ratto | Cannondale Pro Cycling | s.t. |
Edited by harry on 03-05-2013 22:18
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| Selwink |
Posted on 03-05-2013 22:17
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Hoogerland is legend! Thomas did pretty well, but I'm sure you were aiming higher
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| alex valceanu |
Posted on 03-05-2013 22:28
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Good job , getting a top 10 in the GC with Eddy !
edit : Some bonifications in the last stage for Geraint and Hagen would be great !
Edited by alex valceanu on 04-05-2013 08:34
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| harry |
Posted on 03-05-2013 22:34
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Selwink wrote:
Hoogerland is legend! Thomas did pretty well, but I'm sure you were aiming higher
Yes, I'm aiming higher, but as long as I'm still getting used to PCM12 and extreme, I'm happy to score some World Tour Points. |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 03-05-2013 22:37
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Geraint with another top ten |
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