|
PCMFreaks 2006 DB - Released
|
| anderspcm |
Posted on 28-10-2012 21:18
|
Sprinter
Posts: 1716
Joined: 09-01-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
I think Bassos stats is fair, he was the only one who could follow Armstrong the year before.
|
| |
|
|
| Rauling |
Posted on 28-10-2012 23:19
|
Domestique
Posts: 461
Joined: 09-02-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
If any wants to help with cyclist photos then tell me. We only have rider pics for the Pro Tour which is not many riders.
|
| |
|
|
| bigggassi |
Posted on 29-10-2012 03:13
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 832
Joined: 28-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Rauling wrote:
If any wants to help with cyclist photos then tell me. We only have rider pics for the Pro Tour which is not many riders.
Why don't check out some PCM 2006 DBs? I think there should be projects containing rider pictures of that year. Or any other historical DB, there are always a lot of pictures in it. Maybe you can use them.
Edit: Here's a link with rider photos I have from the PCM2006-Game. I believe I got them from the pcmspain-update. There are over 5000 Pictures, so I guess it contains what you're looking for.
Download: https://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?...gk=leasing
anderspcm wrote:
I think Bassos stats is fair, he was the only one who could follow Armstrong the year before.
Really? 80TT is waaay too much. He improved in timetrial, but wasn't a specialist. On his peak at the Giro in 06 he lost ca. 30 seconds to Ullrich who wasn't in good shape that time. I saw Kloden as a better timetrialist than Basso, but Kloden got only 76, just 1 point better than Valverde, who isn't exactly that good timetrialist. But again, this is why there are editors out there^^
Edited by bigggassi on 29-10-2012 04:32
|
| |
|
|
| anderspcm |
Posted on 29-10-2012 05:41
|
Sprinter
Posts: 1716
Joined: 09-01-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
You maybe right about the TT stat, didn't saw that one 
|
| |
|
|
| Rauling |
Posted on 29-10-2012 17:54
|
Domestique
Posts: 461
Joined: 09-02-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
The stats are not yet done so just tell me your opinions - that is one of the reason why I have uploaded a picture of the stats.
About rider photos I already have some from PPDB but sounds good with 5000.. 
Thanks
|
| |
|
|
| Wild Dog |
Posted on 29-10-2012 18:01
|
Domestique
Posts: 425
Joined: 17-07-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Both Ullrich and Klöden should have one or two higher in hills IMO. Otherwise they'll lose too much time on the hilly stages.
Vincenzo Nibali - Rui Costa - Nairo Quintana - Alberto Contador - Peter Sagan
WDshirts
The Last of the Real
- Story about Dries Deckers - racing against Merckx, de Vlaeminck etc. |
| |
|
|
| bigggassi |
Posted on 29-10-2012 18:11
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 832
Joined: 28-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Wild Dog wrote:
Both Ullrich and Klöden should have one or two higher in hills IMO. Otherwise they'll lose too much time on the hilly stages.
I agree. Kloden won almost the stage to Gerardmer in 2005, which was a hilly stage. Generally, I think every 80+ climber should have a hill skill near to his climbing skill. At least in the high 70's.
I also think that Basso and Ullrich are too low in flat skill. Basso should be at least over 70, Ullrich around 75 or so. He was a powerhouse of a rider, he could set a high tempo on the flat.
Bassos timetrialing should be max 77-78, Kloden 78-79 in my opinion. But its always hard to tell, because we see just a small peak of the riders. It would be better if we would have screens of the top riders for each skill if you ask me
Edited by bigggassi on 29-10-2012 18:12
|
| |
|
|
| Wild Dog |
Posted on 29-10-2012 18:15
|
Domestique
Posts: 425
Joined: 17-07-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Agree with bigggassi about flat and TT ^
Also both Valverde and Di Luca are one or two too high in TT.
Wasn't Bettini better on cobbles too? 73-74 or something.
Vincenzo Nibali - Rui Costa - Nairo Quintana - Alberto Contador - Peter Sagan
WDshirts
The Last of the Real
- Story about Dries Deckers - racing against Merckx, de Vlaeminck etc. |
| |
|
|
| Rauling |
Posted on 29-10-2012 18:27
|
Domestique
Posts: 461
Joined: 09-02-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Flat
Mountain
Hill
Time Trial
Prologue
Cobblestone
Sprint
|
| |
|
|
| Miguel98 |
Posted on 29-10-2012 18:34
|
World Champion
Posts: 10497
Joined: 23-06-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Rasmussen should have a little bit less of FL and a little bit more of TT. |
| |
|
|
| HaRe |
Posted on 29-10-2012 18:37
|
Neo-Pro
Posts: 394
Joined: 08-07-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
in the flat picture i can see McEwen with 84 SP, but in the Sprint image he is not there? |
| |
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 22-11-2024 04:20
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| Rauling |
Posted on 29-10-2012 18:39
|
Domestique
Posts: 461
Joined: 09-02-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
There are something that are wrong in those screenshots.
Valverde has been given better DH stat than that..
|
| |
|
|
| bigggassi |
Posted on 29-10-2012 18:58
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 832
Joined: 28-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Flat Skills:
I'm fine with that. Maybe Hincapie at bit too high, 80 should be enough for him.
Mountain:
I think Rasmussen was the best climber back then. He could be on one level with Basso. Eihter increase his stat to 83 or lower Basso to 82. I think every climber with >80 climbing should have 76-77 or higher in hills.
Hill:
I like that.
Timetrial:
Rogers maybe 1-2 points too high. Honchar 1-2 points too low. He won both timetrials at the tour. Also Zabriskie and Julich could be 1 point lower. Kloden should be at one level with Landis. In the first timetrial Landis was better, in the second Kloden. I think they could be on one level.
Prologue:
Cancellara should be at 83 or 84. By far the best prologue-specialist at that time. Hushovd could be also over 80, he won the prologue at the tour. Btw, where is Hincapie? 2nd in opening prologue. Karpets? Here you can give Valverde a higher skill as well.
Cobbles:
Well arranged.
Sprints:
You sure you show us all riders?^^ McEwen is missing, but saw him with 84 in another screen.
|
| |
|
|
| Rammus |
Posted on 29-10-2012 19:23
|
Stagiare
Posts: 223
Joined: 08-07-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
Is Piepoli on the Mountains list ? Arguably the 2nd best climber in the 2006 Giro. |
| |
|
|
| Rauling |
Posted on 29-10-2012 19:25
|
Domestique
Posts: 461
Joined: 09-02-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Thanks for your 'thoughts'. About the sprint screen I don't know what has gone wrong...
All stats are from PPDB 2006 and I have changed a bit. Baseballlover123 has made some stats but since it is 'just' for 50 % of the Pro Tour it won't work..
If people want to help with stats, just tell me.
|
| |
|
|
| Colnago |
Posted on 29-10-2012 21:53
|
Under 23
Posts: 72
Joined: 19-09-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Why Contador not on the Mountains list ? |
| |
|
|
| Schleck96 |
Posted on 29-10-2012 22:02
|
Protected Rider
Posts: 1498
Joined: 10-08-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
What about Basso TT? Way too high I think |
| |
|
|
| Rauling |
Posted on 29-10-2012 22:37
|
Domestique
Posts: 461
Joined: 09-02-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Colnago wrote:
Why Contador not on the Mountains list ?
Because I don't think that Contador was that good back then. He has 79.
|
| |
|
|
| mimile |
Posted on 30-10-2012 08:12
|
Amateur
Posts: 20
Joined: 07-05-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Sorry for my english, whixh are not good.
I hope Contador has a good potential.
For the Flat, I agree. In mountain, I think Basso could have 82.
And he could have only 78 in time trial.
Your stats are a bit to high I think. But it's good, good job.
The DB could be finished the next month ? |
| |
|
|
| Rauling |
Posted on 30-10-2012 21:03
|
Domestique
Posts: 461
Joined: 09-02-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
I think it will be finished next month, yes.
Again, if anybody wants to help with rider photos, just tell me!
EDIT:
Stages for the TdF06 that we still need:
5, 6, 7, 9, 19
Edited by Rauling on 30-10-2012 21:07
|
| |
|
