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| roturn |
Posted on 28-09-2012 09:15
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They have a flat course on the 20th. 
Still all the ceremony with champagne etc. might be gone for this year at least.
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| Heine |
Posted on 28-09-2012 09:26
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Would be alot of fun with a ITT to end it, but aint the champs elysees "cobbly"? (not really cobblestones as in Flandern, but not flat asphalt) Could make for some strange falls on TT-bikes?
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Posted on 28-09-2012 09:58
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Ventoux moved to 14, that's the scenarios now
1a Tappa: Porto Vecchio > Bastia (Ufficiale - 200 km)
2a Tappa: Bastia > Ajaccio (Ufficiale - 155 km)
3a Tappa: Ajaccio > Calvi (Ufficiale - 145 km)
4a Tappa: Nice > Nice TTT (Ufficiale - 20 Km)
5a Tappa: Cagnes sul Mer > Marseille
6a Tappa: Aix-en-Provence > Montpellier
7a Tappa: Montpellier > Albi
8a Tappa: Tolosa > Ax-3-Domaines (Pailheres, Ax-3-Domaines)
9a Tappa: Saint Girons > Bagneres-de-Bigorre (Portet d'Aspet, Col de Peyresourde, Col d'Aspin)
REST DAY
10a Tappa: Nantes > Saint-Malo
11a Tappa: Avranches > Mont Saint-Michel ITT
12a Tappa: Fogueres > Tours
13a Tappa: Tours > Saint-Amand-Montrond
14a Tappa: Saint-Pourçain-sur-Sioule > Lyon
15a Tappa: Lyon (Givors) > Mont Ventoux
16a Tappa: Vaison-la-Romaine > Gap (Col de Manse)
REST DAY
17a Tappa: Somewhere near Gap > Risoul (Izoard)
18a Tappa: Gap > Alpe d'Huez (Bayard, Col d'Ornon, Alpe d'Huez, Col de Sarenne, Alpe d'Huez)
19a Tappa: Le Bourd d'Oisans > Le Grand Bornard (Glandon, Madeleine, Tamié, Épine, Plan-Bois, Croix-Fry)
20a Tappa: Annecy > Cret de Chatillon CTT
21a Tappa: Montgeron > Paris Champs Elysees
Edited by emmea90 on 28-09-2012 09:58
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Posted on 28-09-2012 17:40
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Not nearly enough ITT
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 28-09-2012 17:44
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It's not Fogueres by the way, but Fougères ("foo-jay-r" ), and it's "bourg" d'oisans, not "bourd". Just saying.
Looks like stage 10 shouldn't pass too far from here. It's almost pan flat.
Not sure if some of the flat stages will feature uphill finishes. Stage 13 could be one, I know there are some serious climbs around that town (some youth categories national events are/were held there).
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Posted on 28-09-2012 17:49
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issoisso wrote:
Not nearly enough ITT
Indeed. And the stage to Le Grand Bornand should be the last one, as it looks to be the one most suited to attacks from far and offensive racing in general. I hope the Mont Saint Michel ITT is at least 55km long, but I'm afraid it'll be ~40km.
Also way too many flat stages. Cavendish could beat Merckx's racord next year already. 
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Posted on 28-09-2012 17:59
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ITT to Mont St. Michel sounds epic |
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Posted on 28-09-2012 23:01
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Less ITT a GT has, more is beautiful. Gap has to be done in mountains, create Gap in TT and not attack in mountains is for losers.
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Posted on 28-09-2012 23:09
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emmea wrote:
Less ITT a GT has, more is beautiful. Gap has to be done in mountains, create Gap in TT and not attack in mountains is for losers.
As much as I am a Sky fan, the less ITT next year's tour has, the more interesting it becomes as it confuses who Sky has as their leader. |
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Posted on 28-09-2012 23:14
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emmea wrote:
Less ITT a GT has, more is beautiful. Gap has to be done in mountains, create Gap in TT and not attack in mountains is for losers.
I don't agree, when there's not much ITT everyone just looks at each other without attacking because they're all afraid of cracking and losing time. It's very boring.
When there's a TT before the mountains, they've already lost time so they have to take risks. The race tends to be more exciting.
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emmea wrote:
Less ITT a GT has, more is beautiful. Gap has to be done in mountains, create Gap in TT and not attack in mountains is for losers.
As much as I am a Sky fan, the less ITT next year's tour has, the more interesting it becomes as it confuses who Sky has as their leader.
Don't think Wiggins is riding the Tour, and if he does he certainly won't be team leader
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 29-09-2012 08:23
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emmea wrote:
Less ITT a GT has, more is beautiful. Gap has to be done in mountains, create Gap in TT and not attack in mountains is for losers.
Why even bother with flat stages at all if GT have to be all about mountains, and mountains only ?
Without going to the Giro Moser won excesses, a balanced road is what it is about. By balanced I mean a road that doesn't give an unfair advantage to climbers or TT riders. |
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Posted on 29-09-2012 08:52
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Aquarius wrote:
emmea wrote:
Less ITT a GT has, more is beautiful. Gap has to be done in mountains, create Gap in TT and not attack in mountains is for losers.
Why even bother with flat stages at all if GT have to be all about mountains, and mountains only ?
Without going to the Giro Moser won excesses, a balanced road is what it is about. By balanced I mean a road that doesn't give an unfair advantage to climbers or TT riders.
To be fair, there have been way flatter Giros, Vueltas and Tours than the Giro Moser won.
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Posted on 01-10-2012 08:48
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Any more leaks/speculation? |
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Posted on 05-10-2012 11:35
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I think that the Giro last year, had a perfect amount of TT in a GT.
About 70 kilometres will make the riders, who aren't good in a TT, attack in the mountains all the time. Now we don't know how long the TT's are, but I hope they are about 70 kilometres in total.
One thing i know, is that the 100th edition of the Tour will be special. In some way at least.
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Posted on 08-10-2012 06:48
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Is it probable that the tour will end on Alpe d'Huez? |
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Posted on 08-10-2012 06:50
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It wouldn't surprise me. They want something crazy in the anniversary race.
Could be fun, but I'm a bit torn. Would feel wrong to replace Champs Élysées.
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Posted on 08-10-2012 06:59
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The Tour has not always ended on the Champs-Élysées (but often in Paris or immediately around).
Nothing wrong with breaking traditions. Many people are often critical about this country being too Paris-centered. Ending on Alpe d'Huez is fine with me. Rest to see what it will actually be like. |
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Posted on 08-10-2012 07:05
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Why not just have it 2nd last day? Technically the GC race would end as soon as the Alpe d'Huez stage is over anyway.
I probably wont mind though...
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 08-10-2012 07:13
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I'd love a finish on Alpe d'Huez. But it's hard to organize, I think. You have less space than in Paris.
If they'll go over Alpe 'dHuez twice, the green jersey might even still lose it because he'll come in too late, maybe
I say I'd be an epic finish of a (hopefully) epic Tour! |
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Posted on 08-10-2012 07:19
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Here is what I said in the News in October thread:
"Surely not. If there is a single edition where you don't mess with tradition it is a centenary, which is all about creating a link with the historic past of the race. Innovation has a part to play to make these 'special' years memorable, but tradition is ultimately the point of them."
Not say it would be a bad idea, but it would kind of go against the whole point of the historically-important edition of an historically-grounded race.
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