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Pellizotti2
Nibali leaves Liquigas at the end of the season.

So, it's off to Astana I guess?

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nibal...-announces
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Alakagom
BMC is a good candidate too, if Evans fades in next years Nibali could be the man for BMC, both offer same kind of money too him - 2.5 million per year.

Nice to see my predicted transfer of Nibs leaving confirmed though ! ^^ Although I'd rather he stayed. Sagan will be happy man though, means more concentration on him and his classics campaign + no more sheparding of Nibs.
Edited by Alakagom on 06-05-2012 18:15
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kumazan
1.8M vs 2.5M, it's pretty obvious what will happen. Too bad to see Nibbles leaving Liquigas, but you can't say no to such a good wage.
 
Pellizotti2
Will be interesting to see how Liquigas plans on finding a replacement too. Basso is after all at the end of his career, so they'll need to find someone new.
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jph27
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Will be interesting to see how Liquigas plans on finding a replacement too. Basso is after all at the end of his career, so they'll need to find someone new.


Perhaps we may see Pozzovivo get a chance at a World Tour team... I can dream. Pfft
 
kumazan
jph27 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Will be interesting to see how Liquigas plans on finding a replacement too. Basso is after all at the end of his career, so they'll need to find someone new.


Perhaps we may see Pozzovivo get a chance at a World Tour team... I can dream. Pfft


They'd need someone who can contend for a GC win though.
 
jph27
kumazan wrote:
jph27 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Will be interesting to see how Liquigas plans on finding a replacement too. Basso is after all at the end of his career, so they'll need to find someone new.


Perhaps we may see Pozzovivo get a chance at a World Tour team... I can dream. Pfft


They'd need someone who can contend for a GC win though.


What about Serpa, Rujano, Garzelli, Pellizotti or Di Luca? Pfft
 
valverde321
What about bringing Cataldo back? Pfft

I can dream too Smile
 
Pellizotti2
jph27 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
jph27 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Will be interesting to see how Liquigas plans on finding a replacement too. Basso is after all at the end of his career, so they'll need to find someone new.

Perhaps we may see Pozzovivo get a chance at a World Tour team... I can dream. Pfft

They'd need someone who can contend for a GC win though.

What about Serpa, Rujano, Garzelli, Pellizotti or Di Luca? Pfft

Personally, I think apart from Rujano, none of those are Grand Tour winner material. Plus, Garzelli and Di Luca doesn't have many years left either.

On the other hand, I wont say anything about my namesake until I've seen him race.
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I_Mayo
jph27 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
jph27 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Will be interesting to see how Liquigas plans on finding a replacement too. Basso is after all at the end of his career, so they'll need to find someone new.


Perhaps we may see Pozzovivo get a chance at a World Tour team... I can dream. Pfft


They'd need someone who can contend for a GC win though.


What about Serpa, Rujano, Garzelli, Pellizotti or Di Luca? Pfft


Serpa is not goood enough to be a main rider for such a big team as Liquigas. Rujano seems to have found a team that fits him and where he feels comfortable and also you have to remember how he rode for previous big teams. Garzelli and Di Luca are too old. And Pellizotti was banned while riding for Liquigas and also is not a young boy anymore.

Pozzovivo seems like a best fit. I always have wanted him to move to either Liquigas or Lampre. Fuglsang seems like good fit too. Or maybe a prospects like Masciarelli and Betancour, because they have potential to be a great climbers.
Edited by I_Mayo on 06-05-2012 19:00
 
Alakagom
Pellizotti2 wrote:
jph27 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
jph27 wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Will be interesting to see how Liquigas plans on finding a replacement too. Basso is after all at the end of his career, so they'll need to find someone new.

Perhaps we may see Pozzovivo get a chance at a World Tour team... I can dream. Pfft

They'd need someone who can contend for a GC win though.

What about Serpa, Rujano, Garzelli, Pellizotti or Di Luca? Pfft

Personally, I think apart from Rujano, none of those are Grand Tour winner material. Plus, Garzelli and Di Luca doesn't have many years left either.

On the other hand, I wont say anything about my namesake until I've seen him race.


I think jph was joking a bit Pfft Except from Rujano who will never go to Liqui. They will definitely want to sign Mattia Cattaneo with great potential, already GiroBio winner and 3rd in Avenir. They will strengthen their classic team next year for Sagan too.
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I sensed that, but I wasn't sure. Pfft
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andrebaptista
Liquigas has got a lot of bright propects, Moreno Moser, Stefano Agostini, Damiano Caruso and Dominik Nerz (under25 with gran tour potential), but all of them still need to start getting results to start being considered gran tour contender.

Moreno Moser already got good results, he won Trofeo Laigueglia and Eschborn-Frankfurt City Loop, but I see him more as a future LBL and Lombardia winner and the family has got good riders in the past (francesco moser won the giro and the world champs). All the other rider still lack the individual results as professionals.

They might invest in Pozzato or Ballan (don't know the lenght of their contracts) or in the next italian generation with Bataglin, Felline, Guardini, Modolo, ...

But they might have a short term problem since last season Basso didn't score many points and they cannot hope to remain WT with just Sagan and Basso points.
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fenian_1234
Pity Nibali will leave Liquigas.

Cycling getting a bit more like football in that the real big guns can make offers large enough to take the leaders from other ProTour teams.

Can't blame Nibali - it's his job and from a money point of view he'd be an idiot to turn the big money down, but I lost interest in football years ago because only the teams with money challenge for the big prizes - seems cycling is going down the same road.
 
Avin Wargunnson
Pity to see Nibali leaving, but i was somewhat expecting that, at least they can go all-out for Sagan next year. Cool
They have massive potential in their squad also GT wise, but the riders are still few yers from breakthrough, so they should try to acquire some experienced stage racer.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 07-05-2012 06:03
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Guido Mukk
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Pity to see Nibali leaving, but i was somewhat expecting that, at least they can go all-out for Sagan next year. Cool
They have massive potential in their squad also GT wise, but the riders are still few yers from breakthrough, so they should try to acquire some experienced stage racer.


you can not win Giro with Sagan..and Liquigas wants Giro win
 
Avin Wargunnson
Guido Mukk wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Pity to see Nibali leaving, but i was somewhat expecting that, at least they can go all-out for Sagan next year. Cool
They have massive potential in their squad also GT wise, but the riders are still few yers from breakthrough, so they should try to acquire some experienced stage racer.


you can not win Giro with Sagan..and Liquigas wants Giro win

That is why i wrote they should acquire some experienced stage racer.Smile
And they still have Basso, one of the maybe three italians besides Nibali able to win Giro.
But Giro is not the only race that matters for Liquigas and that "double-leadership" costed them win at MSR i think. When you have a rider like Sagan, you cant focus on someone else also.
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Montolivo
I would love to see a rider like Domenico Pozzovivo go to Liquigas. He could take stage wins in both the Giro and Vuelta and go for a good classification if there is not many tt-kms.
 
Guido Mukk
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Pity to see Nibali leaving, but i was somewhat expecting that, at least they can go all-out for Sagan next year. Cool
They have massive potential in their squad also GT wise, but the riders are still few yers from breakthrough, so they should try to acquire some experienced stage racer.


you can not win Giro with Sagan..and Liquigas wants Giro win

That is why i wrote they should acquire some experienced stage racer.Smile
And they still have Basso, one of the maybe three italians besides Nibali able to win Giro.
But Giro is not the only race that matters for Liquigas and that "double-leadership" costed them win at MSR i think. When you have a rider like Sagan, you cant focus on someone else also.


and now you are 100% shure that Sagan would have won that MSR sprint..?
 
Avin Wargunnson
Guido Mukk wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Pity to see Nibali leaving, but i was somewhat expecting that, at least they can go all-out for Sagan next year. Cool
They have massive potential in their squad also GT wise, but the riders are still few yers from breakthrough, so they should try to acquire some experienced stage racer.


you can not win Giro with Sagan..and Liquigas wants Giro win

That is why i wrote they should acquire some experienced stage racer.Smile
And they still have Basso, one of the maybe three italians besides Nibali able to win Giro.
But Giro is not the only race that matters for Liquigas and that "double-leadership" costed them win at MSR i think. When you have a rider like Sagan, you cant focus on someone else also.


and now you are 100% shure that Sagan would have won that MSR sprint..?

Yes, i am, but no reason to talk about that again Wink You know what my point is.
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