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| Ste117 |
Posted on 05-10-2011 22:37
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Any news on when the 2012 Tour de France route presentation will take place, it's normally sometime this month.
MG Team manager Team Ticos Air Costa Rica
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| shin0da_13 |
Posted on 06-10-2011 08:59
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On 18th. Two days after the Giro presentation. |
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| Jonathan |
Posted on 06-10-2011 11:29
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Can we pleaaaaaaaaaaaase get rid of Pat McQuaid. Leave him behind in China, or something like that. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 06-10-2011 12:19
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As if getting rid of McQuaid would change anything...
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| dienblad |
Posted on 06-10-2011 12:27
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Then it will go as in every sector: also the new boss wants some things the teams or riders don't want. Starting a new organisation, out of the UCI, willcause the same problems in a while....
I don't care about it...
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| Jonathan |
Posted on 06-10-2011 12:31
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kumazan wrote:
As if getting rid of McQuaid would change anything...
You say another president wouldn't change anything? For example look at how much the relationship between UCI and ASO has changed since Prudhomme is the boss. The relationship between the teams and the UCI is at such a low point and McQuaid is for a major part responsible for UCI's attitude. |
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| Jonathan |
Posted on 06-10-2011 12:37
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dienblad wrote:
Then it will go as in every sector: also the new boss wants some things the teams or riders don't want. Starting a new organisation, out of the UCI, willcause the same problems in a while....
I don't care about it...
If I follow your logic we have to ignore the problems caused by a president, because another president will maybe cause new problems? We first have to solve the problems right now and afterwards solve the problems which might pop up.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 06-10-2011 12:41
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kumazan wrote:
As if getting rid of McQuaid would change anything...
There are thousands like PMQ behing him, but that'd still be a good riddance. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 06-10-2011 12:42
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Jonathan wrote:
dienblad wrote:
Then it will go as in every sector: also the new boss wants some things the teams or riders don't want. Starting a new organisation, out of the UCI, willcause the same problems in a while....
I don't care about it...
If I follow your logic we have to ignore the problems caused by a president, because another president will maybe cause new problems? We first have to solve the problems right now and afterwards solve the problems which might pop up.
Absolutely agree, rotten things belong to the dumpster
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| kumazan |
Posted on 06-10-2011 14:17
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Jonathan wrote:
kumazan wrote:
As if getting rid of McQuaid would change anything...
You say another president wouldn't change anything? For example look at how much the relationship between UCI and ASO has changed since Prudhomme is the boss. The relationship between the teams and the UCI is at such a low point and McQuaid is for a major part responsible for UCI's attitude.
What did change when Verbruggen stepped down? When you're dealing with a corrupt organization, you can't just expect that changing the leader is enough. As if arresting a narco would make his cartel disappear.
Would it be a good riddance? Yes. Would anything change? Surely not.
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| Dizzle |
Posted on 06-10-2011 15:41
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kumazan wrote:
What did change when Verbruggen stepped down? When you're dealing with a corrupt organization, you can't just expect that changing the leader is enough. As if arresting a narco would make his cartel disappear.
Would it be a good riddance? Yes. Would anything change? Surely not.
Unless you can predict the future, you wouldn't know.
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| Jonathan |
Posted on 06-10-2011 16:17
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kumazan wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
kumazan wrote:
As if getting rid of McQuaid would change anything...
You say another president wouldn't change anything? For example look at how much the relationship between UCI and ASO has changed since Prudhomme is the boss. The relationship between the teams and the UCI is at such a low point and McQuaid is for a major part responsible for UCI's attitude.
What did change when Verbruggen stepped down? When you're dealing with a corrupt organization, you can't just expect that changing the leader is enough. As if arresting a narco would make his cartel disappear.
Would it be a good riddance? Yes. Would anything change? Surely not.
Verbruggen supported McQuaid as candidate...
Where do you start? Better at the top than at the bottom and I never said it would change everything, but saying it wouldn't change anything is ridiculous
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| kumazan |
Posted on 06-10-2011 16:30
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Jonathan wrote:
Verbruggen supported McQuaid as candidate...
Where do you start? Better at the top than at the bottom and I never said it would change everything, but saying it wouldn't change anything is ridiculous
Exactly. And do you think that McQuaid's successor won't be backed by Pat?
The changes that actually changes things are more often than not from bottom to top, rather than top to bottom. McQuaid's just a reflection of how rotten the UCI is.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 06-10-2011 16:39
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Quoting Cycle Sport Magazine:
"It will all be better when Tchmil is in charge*.
*It may not all be better when Tchmil is in charge"
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| Lachi |
Posted on 06-10-2011 16:40
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What are you arguing about? First get rid of McQuaid. And if his sucessor is bad, then get rid of him too.
Really, what speaks against getting rid of bad people. |
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| Jonathan |
Posted on 06-10-2011 16:41
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kumazan wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
Verbruggen supported McQuaid as candidate...
Where do you start? Better at the top than at the bottom and I never said it would change everything, but saying it wouldn't change anything is ridiculous
Exactly. And do you think that McQuaid's successor won't be backed by Pat?
The changes that actually changes things are more often than not from bottom to top, rather than top to bottom. McQuaid's just a reflection of how rotten the UCI is.
Elections? I hope it won't be Tchmill though .
I agree with you about how corrupt the UCI is and getting rid of McQuaid is in my opinion a good start to solve the problems. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 06-10-2011 16:45
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Lachi wrote:
What are you arguing about? First get rid of McQuaid. And if his sucessor is bad, then get rid of him too.
Really, what speaks against getting rid of bad people.
The priority should be getting rid of the problem rather than changing its face. 
However, I didn't say McQuaid should keep his place, did I?
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| Jonathan |
Posted on 06-10-2011 17:29
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kumazan wrote:
Lachi wrote:
What are you arguing about? First get rid of McQuaid. And if his sucessor is bad, then get rid of him too.
Really, what speaks against getting rid of bad people.
The priority should be getting rid of the problem rather than changing its face.
However, I didn't say McQuaid should keep his place, did I?
In this situation the face is part of the problem. You said replacing him wouldn't change anything and that's the point I doubt. |
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| YvesStevens |
Posted on 06-10-2011 18:14
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Danillo Napolitano's season over :
Dutch link:https://www.wielerland.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18949&Itemid=36 |
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| ember |
Posted on 06-10-2011 19:21
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Vaughters says Cervelo won't be part of their team next year, meaning they are working on a new sponsor. |
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