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East Midlands Cicle Classic Discussion
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 17-09-2011 13:33
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Well then, if blocking was to become such an issue, why aren't races and the AI programmed to fight to be at the front with their team leaders like we'd see in a real normal life race (fighting for the Arenberg Forest section)?
Like in real life, a Mancuso would already mentally be grovelling at the back trying to hide and hope it wouldn't hurt too much, or he'd be off the front in the breakaway attempts.
Great that there is added realism, but you can't just add some new game-law in without considering the impact on the gameplay.
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| p3druh |
Posted on 17-09-2011 13:49
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That seems to be a big issue with PCM 2011. Some teams have no problem having their leaders at the back of the peloton and do nothing to avoid being caught behind in a split. Even if they make it back to the peloton, they just stay put in the same position they were before.
De Vocht has 78COB was caught behind a peloton (of 100 riders) because of a split during a cobbled section with more than 120km to go.
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| Kami |
Posted on 17-09-2011 15:33
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From the top of my mind: San Luis this year had a similar case with a BIG favorite (VdB) being caught in a split.
And indeed, what you say about Mancuso is true. But what i suspect is that he was working for the team at the front (like all my other riders), thus making the split although they can hardly keep up.
I've read somewhere that the AI should be programmed to bring their leaders at the front, but what i've seen is that domestiques are also at the front, blocking out the other favorites. Sometimes some of these domestiques run out of energy, and just cause a split (what happened in a mountain stage in San Luis).
In a sprint it's the same case. A sprinter gets stuck behind other teams lead-outs. I've also seen in one of the Qatar stages, that the whole Vesuvio team was riding to get the break. Then the sprint starts and those riders blocked some of the sprinters. And this is something that can't be helped with being at the front, it's just a case that they get screwed by the game.
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| ember |
Posted on 17-09-2011 19:15
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Excellent report, was very nice to read. For me, it was 2 surprises. One was that Drucker took second, and the other was that it was 1'17 between the top 20, I expected bigger gaps.
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| niconico |
Posted on 17-09-2011 19:55
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Wow that was unexpected from Drucker! I came into the cobble season expecting virtually nothing, but got 19th in Omloop and now a big 2nd place here!
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| Roman |
Posted on 17-09-2011 20:06
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Well, Bewley finishing behind Drucker. That's bad. But 3rd place isn't really bad, I gladly take it.  Still, next time would be better finishing 2nd behid Boonen, if there is a sprint finish.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 18-09-2011 17:39
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For blocking, Thomas was off the back a lot, and every time he got back on it would split again.
Bacardi was working, which is why Mancuso was at the front and finished so high.
Narrow roads means that is hard to overtake on the cobbles and in real life good riders miss splits for stupid reasons as well.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 20-09-2011 16:54
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Devolder does better than Gusev... Yet both results are pretty sucky. |
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| SotD |
Posted on 19-10-2011 12:22
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What is the estimated time of the next PT race? I'm pretty excited after the Worlds and Lombardia
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| Heine |
Posted on 19-10-2011 14:26
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I guess it's either some kind of db trouble, or SN being really busy, since it's the last stage of Tour de Boland that is holding up the game
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