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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 23-08-2011 02:40
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kumazan wrote:
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It needs to be over 10% to be real hard, and exciting.
No it doesn't. But it seldom goes over 5%, so it suits the likes of Leipheimer better than the likes of Henao, imo.
Exactly, any TT favors Leipheimer, and remember, he's a great climber! He fished the TDF 3rd in 07. He's very capable. |
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Posted on 23-08-2011 02:52
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baseballlover312 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
gregor wrote:
It needs to be over 10% to be real hard, and exciting.
No it doesn't. But it seldom goes over 5%, so it suits the likes of Leipheimer better than the likes of Henao, imo.
Exactly, any TT favors Leipheimer, and remember, he's a great climber! He fished the TDF 3rd in 07. He's very capable.
I tend to disagree, with him still being a great climber. That was 4 years ago, and what is he now 37, 36? Levi is still a good TTer, but I wouldn't say he's a "great" climber anymore. He's still a decent climber, but he's worsened since then.
Or atleast using a result from 4 years ago, might be a little outdated for this arguement, if you get my point.
And Levi still has a great shot at winning this race, so maybe I'm just wasting my words a bit there.
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Posted on 23-08-2011 04:18
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I think it will come down to Evans, if he adapts well to the altitude, I think he is simply too strong to be beat right now. If not I think Levi will have the best chance as he is more used to the altitude.
The first stage tomorrow the riders will start at over 2000m and never come back below that. The Wednesday the riders will go over two peaks, one right at 3700, and the other about 3645m.
For those not used to this altitude, the entire race stays basically over 1800m where riders get about 21% less oxygen each breath than they would at sea level, and then Wednesday the riders will go over two peaks, one right at 3700, and the other about 3645m ~38% less than sea level, 12% less than they would on the highest climb in the Tour de France (Col Agnel @ 2744m) and 21% less than they would at the legendary finish of Alpe d'Huez (1850m).
It's not to say that these climbs are harder as they simply start from higher altitudes, but its the fact of getting less oxygen through the system where the serious damage to the legs begins.
(As a side note it's this acclimatization concept that is at the core of Lance Armstrong's defense against using drugs, basically saying his body became used to getting this lesser amount of oxygen and both built up more tolerance to not having oxygen as well as becoming better at getting more air in each breath).
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Posted on 23-08-2011 06:29
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Kentaurus wrote:
(As a side note it's this acclimatization concept that is at the core of Lance Armstrong's defense against using drugs, basically saying his body became used to getting this lesser amount of oxygen and both built up more tolerance to not having oxygen as well as becoming better at getting more air in each breath).
That still doesn't explain the presence of synthetical (artificial) EPO in his urine samples.  |
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Posted on 23-08-2011 09:01
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schleck93 wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
felix_29 wrote:
Gesink surprised me, only 16 seconds slower than VDV.
Yes, good performance. He certainly wants to show something.
Bad TT by Basso again.
Basso is not a good TT'er normally, and especially not on prologues.
There were times he could do a decent TT. Now he barely does a top-30. |
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Posted on 23-08-2011 14:57
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Here's a fun thing to think about.
Danny Pate was yesterdays most aggressive rider.
HOW DO YOU BE AN AGGRESSIVE IN A PROLOGUE TT??!!??
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Posted on 23-08-2011 15:01
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doddy13 wrote:
Here's a fun thing to think about.
Danny Pate was yesterdays most aggressive rider.
HOW DO YOU BE AN AGGRESSIVE IN A PROLOGUE TT??!!??
He wasn´t agressive, he was born at the right place
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| kumazan |
Posted on 23-08-2011 15:06
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felix_29 wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Here's a fun thing to think about.
Danny Pate was yesterdays most aggressive rider.
HOW DO YOU BE AN AGGRESSIVE IN A PROLOGUE TT??!!??
He wasn´t agressive, he was born at the right place
But that's how it works in the Tour too, doesn't it?
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Posted on 23-08-2011 18:32
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Yeah, in the TDF thre was 4 Frenchwild cards |
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Posted on 23-08-2011 18:51
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We award the final most aggressive rider price to a Frenchman, but at least we don't give aggression rewards out for TTT and prologues, do we ? |
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Posted on 23-08-2011 23:20
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Juraj Sagan is a beast. 
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Posted on 23-08-2011 23:23
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Hesjedal goes full blast, then pulls off, three seconds later Danielson cracks and starts moving back. 
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Posted on 23-08-2011 23:27
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levi attacks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and wins
henao second
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Posted on 23-08-2011 23:28
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Levi is in a superb form. He left everyone behind! |
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Posted on 23-08-2011 23:30
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What was Frank doing there? Attacking and then absolutely no power to counter.
And Andy in his typical "I don`t care about these races" style finishes together with the great climber Gretsch. |
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Posted on 23-08-2011 23:31
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Andy attack in a race a other than the Tour or LBL and Levi attacked in...well, Levi attacked.
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Posted on 23-08-2011 23:31
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In other news, the stage sucked until the final.
And Americans really can't do cycling tv coverage.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 23-08-2011 23:31
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valverde321 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
gregor wrote:
It needs to be over 10% to be real hard, and exciting.
No it doesn't. But it seldom goes over 5%, so it suits the likes of Leipheimer better than the likes of Henao, imo.
Exactly, any TT favors Leipheimer, and remember, he's a great climber! He fished the TDF 3rd in 07. He's very capable.
I tend to disagree, with him still being a great climber. That was 4 years ago, and what is he now 37, 36? Levi is still a good TTer, but I wouldn't say he's a "great" climber anymore. He's still a decent climber, but he's worsened since then.
Or atleast using a result from 4 years ago, might be a little outdated for this arguement, if you get my point.
And Levi still has a great shot at winning this race, so maybe I'm just wasting my words a bit there.
Whatever you say
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Posted on 23-08-2011 23:35
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Phil Ligget "What an accelarration by Leipheimer, Henoa tries to gap, but nobody has the horsepower!!!"
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 23-08-2011 23:35
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baseballlover312 wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
gregor wrote:
It needs to be over 10% to be real hard, and exciting.
No it doesn't. But it seldom goes over 5%, so it suits the likes of Leipheimer better than the likes of Henao, imo.
Exactly, any TT favors Leipheimer, and remember, he's a great climber! He fished the TDF 3rd in 07. He's very capable.
I tend to disagree, with him still being a great climber. That was 4 years ago, and what is he now 37, 36? Levi is still a good TTer, but I wouldn't say he's a "great" climber anymore. He's still a decent climber, but he's worsened since then.
Or atleast using a result from 4 years ago, might be a little outdated for this arguement, if you get my point.
And Levi still has a great shot at winning this race, so maybe I'm just wasting my words a bit there.
Whatever you say
My point was that was 4 years ago and he's not as good anymore.
And he isn't a great climber that was a 2.5km climb
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And what was the gradient? The un-steepness dropped Andy
Edited by valverde321 on 23-08-2011 23:38
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