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Tour de France 11 Stage 20: Grenoble > Grenoble 42.5km
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| Zanci93 |
Posted on 22-07-2011 18:25
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I think Tony and Fabian are the favourites. We didn't see them in the last days. So they tried to save as much energy as possible. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 22-07-2011 18:31
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50-50 thanks to yellow magic |
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| DJSirMatthew |
Posted on 22-07-2011 18:35
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kumazan wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
Droniczpcm wrote:
its like he never attacks
*facepalm*
Remember Evans never attacks. Even when he attacks, he's not really attacking. Also he never put the pace of the group he's in. If you see Evans leading his group is only because he's sucking an invisible wheel.
Brilliant 
I seriously hope Cadel wins the TdF, especially since he's the lesser climber yet this TdF edition has the least TT km's I've ever seen... It's really going to be tight tomorrow. What's the time gap between each start? 2 minutes? |
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| DJSirMatthew |
Posted on 22-07-2011 18:38
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Wilier wrote:
So Tony, Fabian or will we have a surprise tomorrow. Westra? Evans? Velits? Leipheimer? Contador? Malori? Millar? Porte?
Problem with Tony & Fabian is that they might have to do the TT in worse weather conditions than f.e. Contador... |
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| Bushwackers |
Posted on 22-07-2011 18:42
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I think it is safe to say that Danny Pate is going to walk away with the TT tomorrow. I predicted that he would win in today's stage, but I guess he was still saving energy for today because I didn't see him. Anyways, people seem to forget that he was the World U23 TT Champion.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 22-07-2011 18:51
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Bushwackers wrote:
I think it is safe to say that Danny Pate is going to walk away with the TT tomorrow. I predicted that he would win in today's stage, but I guess he was still saving energy for today because I didn't see him. Anyways, people seem to forget that he was the World U23 TT Champion.
That usually happens when you dont win a TT for a while.
Still I wish him the best.
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| DJSirMatthew |
Posted on 22-07-2011 18:54
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Maybe the wrong way to tackle this, but looking at the last TT result I can find on Andy, I find one in Vuelta al Pays Vasco where he finished 25th, losing 1min53 to Martin. Martin did the Grenoble TT in the Dauphine in 1,718x his Pays Vasco TT, so extrapolating this gives a difference of 3min14 between him and Martin. Evans lost 1m20 in that Dauphine TT to Martin, so that gives him 2 minutes better than Andy.
Alas, comparing the TT of Pays Vasco and Dauphine is a bit silly yet the profiles are quite similar (Pays Vasco was only 24km though and not 42...)
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-07-2011 18:55
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Bushwackers wrote:
I think it is safe to say that Danny Pate is going to walk away with the TT tomorrow. I predicted that he would win in today's stage, but I guess he was still saving energy for today because I didn't see him. Anyways, people seem to forget that he was the World U23 TT Champion.
So was Thomas Vaitkus the guy who can sorta sprint and nothing else.
Point being, results in youth races a million years ago mean nothing. For three reasons:
1. Riders develop differently
2. Different generations have different quality. Pate beat Sebastian Lang and James Perry (who?) to the win. Not exactly an awe-inspiring field
3. He's from your hometown, you're biased 
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| alpa |
Posted on 22-07-2011 19:02
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Hmmm... But how good is Rolland in time trial compared to Taaramae? I dont really know but I wanna see Rein in white on the Champs des Elysees!!! |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 22-07-2011 19:16
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Rolland has ranked between the 55th and 80th place this year in the I.T.T. he did. With such rankings you can never know if he gave everything, but certainly he has some limits in that discipline.
Taaramae is rather cruising between the 7th and 20th position.
Convert that to the length of tomorrow's ITT and that's a 2 to 5 minutes loss predicted for the Frenchman. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 22-07-2011 19:22
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Porte is nice prediction...he has been invisible |
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 22-07-2011 19:34
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Taaramäe will take white, I hope. No idea how Rolland can tt if he is serious.
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| brewers90 |
Posted on 22-07-2011 19:43
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Not sure if it's too long for him but Thomas did well in this TT in the Dauphiné and he is in serious form at the moment. If the conditions are good and he wakes up with good legs, he could do something tomorrow.
Well, at least I hope so, but then I would being unbelievably biased towards Brits.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 22-07-2011 19:47
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brewers90 wrote:
Not sure if it's too long for him but Thomas did well in this TT in the Dauphiné and he is in serious form at the moment. If the conditions are good and he wakes up with good legs, he could do something tomorrow.
Well, at least I hope so, but then I would being unbelievably biased towards Brits.
7. THOMAS Geraint 126 SKY PROCYCLING 57' 03" + 01' 36"
Yeah... too long.
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| jakobm8 |
Posted on 22-07-2011 19:54
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I have a serious question, concerning my bankroll :-)
Is Samuel Sanchez gonna crack top6 in the overall classement?
Edited by jakobm8 on 22-07-2011 19:55
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| johnnyjur |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:07
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Will Van Garderen ride for full or rest for the next day? It's for a manager game. |
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| laidbackmarc |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:09
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jakobm8 wrote:
I have a serious question, concerning my bankroll :-)
Is Samuel Sanchez gonna crack top6 in the overall classement?
He is 1'09 behind Cunego, right? I don't know about Sanchez but he is an decent time-trailist while Cunego, usually, is crappy. Sanchez could gain 1'09 on Cunego but this is after 3 weeks so it's impossible to say and I don't want to blow you on your money either.
However, if Sanchez gains 1'09 on Cunego, Evans will probably win the Tour.
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:12
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Bosskardo wrote:
Taaramäe will take white, I hope. No idea how Rolland can tt if he is serious.
A friend told me that Rolland said he needs 2 minutes in the tt to hold on to white. So.....Taaramäe in white! If Rolland isn't just playing with me, if so then bad Rolland.
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| jakobm8 |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:14
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He's 0'51 behind Cunego, and 2'12 behind Voeckler. He should beat Cunego and maybe has a shot at Voeckler? |
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| ricotero_uy |
Posted on 22-07-2011 20:17
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Last year:
STAGE 19 - Bordeaux Pauillac 52 km
| 1. | CANCELLARA Fabian | 13 | TEAM SAXO BANK | 1h 00' 56" | | | 2. | MARTIN Tony | 115 | TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA | 1h 01' 13" | + 00' 17" | | ... | | 35. | CONTADOR Alberto | 1 | ASTANA | 1h 06' 39" | + 05' 43" | | ... | | 44. | SCHLECK Andy | 11 | TEAM SAXO BANK | 1h 07' 10" | + 06' 14" | | ... | | 166. | EVANS Cadel | 121 | BMC RACING TEAM | 1h 11' 53" | + 10' 57" |
Everyone is saying that Cadel has better skills in TT than Andy... but, this is the "last" stage of the Tour for the GC... and recovery and energy I think are more important.
Last year... everyone said that Contador will take more than a minute to Andy... but there were only 27 seconds between them. Contador was only 12 seconds in front of Andy...
This year I think Andy will defend yellow jersey...
I like all cyclist... dont have a favourite if there is show!!!
They say that Cadel doesn't attack... but I don't think so.
It's easy to say that when you don't ride a bike during the TdF...
Lucky us to have this amazing TdF with full expectatives for this TT and also the green and white jersey are not secured.
My pred:
Stage: F.Cancellara
GC: A.Schleck
Green: M.Cavendish (and all the out of bounds riders)
White: R.Taaramae |
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