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Posted on 24-02-2011 18:10

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For my uber riders test I used this stage of Kissaha's

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with this startlist from 2010 pcmdaily database:

Spoiler

Astana
1. A.Contador
2. D.De la Fuente
3. A.Grivko
4. M.Iglinskiy
5. D.Navarro
6. Ã“.Pereiro
7. P.Tiralongo
8. A.Vinokourov

Saxo Bank
11. A.Schleck
12. F.Cancellara
13. J.Fuglsang
14. G.Larsson
15. R.Porte
16. F.Schleck
17. C.A.SÃ¸rensen
18. J.Voigt

Rabobank
21. D.Menchov
22. M.Ardila
23. L.Boom
24. R.Gesink
25. B.Mollema
26. T.Stamsnijder
27. L.Ten Dam
28. P.Weening

Euskaltel
31. S.SÃ¡nchez
32. I.AntÃ³n
33. B.Intxausti
34. I.Isasi
35. E.MartÃnez
36. M.Nieve
37. R.Sicard
38. A.Txurruka

Liquigas
41. I.Basso
42. V.Agnoli
43. F.Bellotti
44. V.Nibali
45. P.Sagan
46. S.Szmyd
47. A.Vanotti
48. O.Zaugg

CervÃ©lo
51. C.Sastre
52. Ã.Cuesta
53. S.Denifl
54. X.Florencio
55. V.Gustov
56. Ã“.Pujol
57. X.Tondo
58. M.Wyss

The Shack
61. L.Armstrong
62. J.Brajkovic
63. C.Horner
64. M.Irizar
65. L.Leipheimer
66. T.Machado
67. S.Paulinho
68. Y.Popovych

Xacobeo
71. E.Mosquera
72. C.CastaÃ±o
73. G.CÃ©sar Veloso
74. D.FernÃ¡ndez
75. A.FernÃ¡ndez
76. D.GarcÃa Dapena
77. F.J.Pacheco
78. G.RabuÃ±al

Garmin
81. C.Vande Velde
82. R.Hesjedal
83. F.Kessiakoff
84. T.Lowe
85. D.Martin
86. D.Millar
87. P.Stetina
88. J.Van Summeren

Sky
91. B.Wiggins
92. J.Augustyn
93. E.Boasson Hagen
94. D.Cioni
95. S.Cummings
96. C.Froome
97. S.Gerrans
98. T.LÃ¶fkvist

Caisse d'Epargne
101. J.M.Soler
102. A.Amador
103. D.Arroyo
104. M.Bruseghin
105. J.J.Cobo
106. V.Kiryienka
107. L.L.SÃ¡nchez
108. R.UrÃ¡n

Lampre
111. D.Cunego
112. A.Kashechkin
113. M.Lorenzetto
114. D.Pietropolli
115. D.Righi
116. G.Simoni
117. S.Spilak
118. D.Ulissi

Katusha
121. J.RodrÃguez
122. G.Caruso
123. M.Ignatiev
124. V.Karpets
125. K.Kirchen
126. A.Kolobnev
127. L.Mazzanti
128. E.Petrov

Acqua & Sapone
131. S.Garzelli
132. M.Codol
133. F.Failli
134. A.Masciarelli
135. F.Masciarelli
136. S.Masciarelli
137. L.Paolini
138. L.Pierfelici

FranÃ§aise des Jeux
141. C.Le MÃ©vel
142. S.Casar
143. R.Di Gregorio
144. A.Geslin
145. A.GÃ©rard
146. M.Ladagnous
147. A.Roux
148. B.Vaugrenard

AG2R
151. J.Gadret
152. C.Dessel
153. H.Dupont
154. V.Efimkin
155. D.Le Lay
156. R.Nocentini
157. C.Riblon
158. N.Roche

HTC - Columbia
161. M.Rogers
162. M.Albasini
163. M.Monfort
164. M.Pinotti
165. F.Rabon
166. K.Siutsou
167. T.Van Garderen
168. P.Velits

QuickÂ·Step
171. K.Seeldraeyers
172. C.Barredo
173. D.Cataldo
174. S.Chavanel
175. D.Devenyns
176. S.Devolder
177. J.Pineau
178. M.Velo

Omega Pharma
181. J.Peraud
182. M.Aerts
183. J.Bakelandts
184. F.De Greef
185. P.Gilbert
186. J.Ljungblad
187. M.Lloyd
188. D.Moreno

Team Milram
191. C.Knees
192. W.De Vocht
193. M.Fothen
194. J.FrÃ¶hlinger
195. L.Gerdemann
196. T.Rohregger
197. N.Terpstra
198. F.Wegmann

Vacansoleil
201. B.Feillu
202. M.Carrara
203. R.Feillu
204. J.Hoogerland
205. S.Lagutin
206. M.Marcato
207. R.Ruijgh
208. L.Westra

Footon - Servetto
211. R.Valls
212. E.Capecchi
213. G.Cheula
214. M.Eibegger
215. D.GutiÃ©rrez GutiÃ©rrez
216. E.Mata
217. A.PÃ©rez Arrieta
218. D.Vitoria

Footon are the control.

Here is a quick report:

50 to go: Txurruka, Devolder, Kessiekoff lead peleton by about 3 minutes. Peleton has 133 riders in. Behind we have two main dropped groups. Rogers, Siutsou, Gadret are in first. Boom and Boassen Hagen are in second.

22 to go: Devolder is dropped from three group, Tondo leads peleton of 131 riders

16 to go: Vino pulls 19 riders clear to join Txurruka and Kessiekoff.

12 to go: Menchov and Vino reduce it down to 13 riders (Vino, Menchov, Andy and Frank Schleck, Txurruka, Sammy Sanchez, Contador, Mosquera, Kessiekoff, Basso, Sastre, Navarro and Nibali) ... behind at 45 seconds we have four (Anton, Gesink, Szmyd and Fuglsang).. then 86 riders lead by Caisse D'Epargne.

10 to go: Menchov stretches it ... Navarro and Kessiekoff predictably dropped. Behind Caisse hav caught the four and now that group is just 25 riders. Txurruka dropped from front group.

8 to go: Sanchez and Menchov attack, promting response by Schleck. Contador powers up to these three so we have four up front. Sastre/Liquagas lead the group behind (six riders).

6 to go: The four eyeball each other Sanchez tries a move gets a but down the road but Schleck pulls him back. Hesjedal and Solar attack out of 25 group behind.

3 to go: Sastre gets close to pulling Liquigas duo back to lead four, but Sanchez kicks again only Contador can play close order.

Finish: Sanchez holds off Conta to win, Menchov outlasts Schleck. Sastre goes across with Basso behind.

Result:

Spoiler

Rank	Name	Team	Time
1	Samuel SÃ¡nchez	Euskaltel - Euskadi	4h20'03
2	Alberto Contador	Astana	s.t.
3	Denis Menchov	Rabobank	+ 18
4	Andy Schleck	Team Saxo Bank	s.t.
5	Carlos Sastre	CervÃ©lo Test Team	+ 40
6	Ivan Basso	Liquigas - Doimo	s.t.
7	Vincenzo Nibali	Liquigas - Doimo	+ 53
8	Ezequiel Mosquera	Xacobeo - Galicia	s.t.
9	Alexandre Vinokourov	Astana	s.t.
10	FrÃ¤nk Schleck	Team Saxo Bank	+ 1'09
11	Daniel Navarro	Astana	+ 1'44
12	Ryder Hesjedal	Garmin - Transitions	+ 3'04
13	Juan Mauricio Soler	Caisse d'Epargne	+ 3'20
14	Kim Kirchen	Team Katusha	+ 4'04
15	Christophe Le MÃ©vel	FranÃ§aise des Jeux	+ 4'20
16	Damiano Cunego	Lampre - Farnese Vini	s.t.
17	Levi Leipheimer	Team RadioShack	s.t.
18	David Arroyo	Caisse d'Epargne	s.t.
19	Amets Txurruka	Euskaltel - Euskadi	s.t.
20	Juan JosÃ© Cobo	Caisse d'Epargne	s.t.
21	Fredrik Kessiakoff	Garmin - Transitions	s.t.
22	Sylwester Szmyd	Liquigas - Doimo	s.t.
23	Sandy Casar	FranÃ§aise des Jeux	+ 4'36
24	Carlos Barredo	QuickÂ·Step	s.t.
25	Robert Gesink	Rabobank	s.t.
26	Simon Spilak	Lampre - Farnese Vini	s.t.
27	Igor AntÃ³n	Euskaltel - Euskadi	s.t.
28	Chris Horner	Team RadioShack	s.t.
29	Jean-Christophe Peraud	Omega Pharma - Lotto	s.t.
30	Jakob Fuglsang	Team Saxo Bank	+ 4'56
31	BeÃ±at Intxausti	Euskaltel - Euskadi	s.t.
32	Xavier Tondo	CervÃ©lo Test Team	s.t.
33	JoaquÃm RodrÃguez	Team Katusha	s.t.
34	Janez Brajkovič	Team RadioShack	s.t.
35	Daniel Martin	Garmin - Transitions	s.t.
36	Jens Voigt	Team Saxo Bank	+ 5'16
37	Chris Anker SÃ¸rensen	Team Saxo Bank	+ 5'28
38	Linus Gerdemann	Team Milram	+ 6'12
39	Brice Feillu	Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team	s.t.
40	Maxime Monfort	Team HTC - Columbia	s.t.
41	Marcel Wyss	CervÃ©lo Test Team	+ 6'36
42	Kevin Seeldraeyers	QuickÂ·Step	+ 7'24
43	Christian Knees	Team Milram	s.t.
44	Thomas LÃ¶fkvist	Sky Professional Cycling Team	+ 7'48
45	Marco Pinotti	Team HTC - Columbia	+ 7'56
46	Markus Fothen	Team Milram	s.t.
47	JÃ©rÃ´me Pineau	QuickÂ·Step	s.t.
48	Bradley Wiggins	Sky Professional Cycling Team	s.t.
49	Dario Cataldo	QuickÂ·Step	s.t.
50	Daniel Moreno	Omega Pharma - Lotto	+ 8'04
51	Ã“scar Pereiro	Astana	+ 8'20
52	Vasil Kiryienka	Caisse d'Epargne	s.t.
53	Matteo Carrara	Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team	+ 8'52
54	Stefano Garzelli	Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci	+ 9'08
55	Alexandr Kolobnev	Team Katusha	+ 9'16
56	Stefan Denifl	CervÃ©lo Test Team	s.t.
57	Sylvain Chavanel	QuickÂ·Step	+ 9'24
58	Marzio Bruseghin	Caisse d'Epargne	s.t.
59	Xavier Florencio	CervÃ©lo Test Team	s.t.
60	Ã“scar Pujol	CervÃ©lo Test Team	s.t.
61	Rigoberto UrÃ¡n	Caisse d'Epargne	+ 9'32
62	Luis LeÃ³n SÃ¡nchez	Caisse d'Epargne	s.t.
63	David GarcÃa Dapena	Xacobeo - Galicia	s.t.
64	Oliver Zaugg	Liquigas - Doimo	+ 9'40
65	Richie Porte	Team Saxo Bank	s.t.
66	Bauke Mollema	Rabobank	s.t.
67	SÃ©rgio Paulinho	Team RadioShack	s.t.
68	David De la Fuente	Astana	+ 9'48
69	Dario Cioni	Sky Professional Cycling Team	s.t.
70	Laurens Ten Dam	Rabobank	s.t.
71	Tiago Machado	Team RadioShack	s.t.
72	Rafael Valls	Footon - Servetto	s.t.
73	David Millar	Garmin - Transitions	+ 9'56
74	Johan Van Summeren	Garmin - Transitions	s.t.
75	Dries Devenyns	QuickÂ·Step	s.t.
76	Massimo Codol	Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci	s.t.
77	Stijn Devolder	QuickÂ·Step	+ 10'04
78	Volodymir Gustov	CervÃ©lo Test Team	s.t.
79	Cyril Dessel	AG2R La Mondiale	s.t.
80	Chris Froome	Sky Professional Cycling Team	s.t.
81	Maxim Iglinskiy	Astana	s.t.
82	Thomas Rohregger	Team Milram	s.t.
83	Tejay Van Garderen	Team HTC - Columbia	s.t.
84	Francesco Bellotti	Liquigas - Doimo	+ 10'12
85	Yaroslav Popovych	Team RadioShack	s.t.
86	Francis De Greef	Omega Pharma - Lotto	s.t.
87	Romain Sicard	Euskaltel - Euskadi	s.t.
88	John-Lee Augustyn	Sky Professional Cycling Team	s.t.
89	ÃÃ±igo Cuesta	CervÃ©lo Test Team	+ 10'20
90	Andriy Grivko	Astana	s.t.
91	Sergey Lagutin	Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team	s.t.
92	Gustav Erik Larsson	Team Saxo Bank	+ 10'28
93	RÃ©my Di Gregorio	FranÃ§aise des Jeux	s.t.
94	Mauricio Ardila	Rabobank	+ 10'36
95	Evgeni Petrov	Team Katusha	s.t.
96	Paolo Tiralongo	Astana	s.t.
97	Pieter Weening	Rabobank	s.t.
98	Daniele Pietropolli	Lampre - Farnese Vini	s.t.
99	Markus Eibegger	Footon - Servetto	s.t.
100	Mikel Nieve	Euskaltel - Euskadi	+ 10'44
101	Peter Sagan	Liquigas - Doimo	s.t.
102	Alessandro Vanotti	Liquigas - Doimo	+ 11'00
103	Trent Lowe	Garmin - Transitions	+ 11'16
104	Luca Pierfelici	Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci	s.t.
105	Fabian Cancellara	Team Saxo Bank	+ 21'08

Behind Cancellara everyone else is eliminated.

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#42

Posted on 24-02-2011 18:14

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An interesting thing then with gaps from attrition rather than aggression, is that it can actually help teams with 2 very strong leaders in a race - both have a chance of a decent result, rather than only 1 as PCM09 often gave.

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#43

Posted on 24-02-2011 18:19

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Looks good

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#44

Posted on 24-02-2011 18:27

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SN: Agreed.. I have noticed this in cobbled ones too. Quite often in 2010 ones Devolder and Boonan will appear on the podium of the Tour of Flanders for Quickstep.

I am having trouble getting the megeupload thing to work .. so I will take this rather crude bit of work here:

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as a tester with six 2010 squads - the will pcm2010 work okay with a race with a small amount of teams in.

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<Cyclist id="238" />
<Cyclist id="1186" />
<Cyclist id="1499" />
<Cyclist id="195" />
<Cyclist id="168" />
<Cyclist id="2028" />
<Cyclist id="842" />
</Team>


<Team id="93">
<Cyclist id="3667" />
<Cyclist id="3670" />
<Cyclist id="3675" />
<Cyclist id="3671" />
<Cyclist id="3668" />
<Cyclist id="3673" />
<Cyclist id="3669" />
<Cyclist id="3677" />
</Team>


<Team id="35">
<Cyclist id="144" />
<Cyclist id="1978" />
<Cyclist id="519" />
<Cyclist id="1980" />
<Cyclist id="1981" />
<Cyclist id="36" />
<Cyclist id="1081" />
</Team>


<Team id="39">
<Cyclist id="1368" />
<Cyclist id="384" />
<Cyclist id="2141" />
<Cyclist id="829" />
<Cyclist id="584" />
<Cyclist id="217" />
<Cyclist id="2143" />
</Team>


<Team id="2">
<Cyclist id="1020" />
<Cyclist id="659" />
<Cyclist id="253" />
<Cyclist id="896" />
<Cyclist id="2016" />
<Cyclist id="900" />
<Cyclist id="555" />
</Team>


<Team id="38">
<Cyclist id="1143" />
<Cyclist id="1139" />
<Cyclist id="910" />
<Cyclist id="263" />
<Cyclist id="919" />
<Cyclist id="1144" />
<Cyclist id="1167" />
</Team>

Will bring you what happens after the server returns - have not raced it yet [Caja Rujal will be control probably].

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#45

Posted on 25-02-2011 09:29

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Okay here are results from the FBD Ras race - just five teams racing. Caja Rujal are control.

Stage 1:
Lots of early goes at breaks - presence of sprint points got sprinters sprinting meaning they were out of energy for final sprint... Mind you pretty decent sprinters at front.

Spoiler

Rank Name Team Time
1 AndrÃ© Cardoso Palmeiras Resort - Prio 3h21'03
2 Paolo Longo Borghini ISD - Neri s.t.
3 Davide Ricci Bitti ISD - Neri s.t.
4 Francesco Failli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
5 Raivis Belohvosciks Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
6 Nelson Victorino Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
7 Samuel Caldeira Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
8 Mario Costa Barbot - Siper s.t.
9 HÃ©lder Oliveira Barbot - Siper s.t.
10 Simon Clarke ISD - Neri s.t.
11 Simone Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
12 Massimo Codol Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
13 RafaÃ¢ Chtioui Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
14 Henrique Casimiro Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
15 Emanuele Vona ISD - Neri s.t.
16 Fabrizio Lucciola Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
17 Michał Kwiatkowski Caja Rural s.t.
18 SÃ©rgio Ribeiro Barbot - Siper s.t.
19 Antonio Amorim Barbot - Siper s.t.
20 Alessandro Maserati Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
21 Carlos Baltazar Barbot - Siper s.t.
22 Aketza PeÃ±a Caja Rural s.t.
23 RubÃ©n GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
24 Santo Anza Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
25 CÃ¢ndido Barbosa Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
26 Andrea NoÃ¨ Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
27 Filippo Baggio Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
28 Oscar Gatto ISD - Neri s.t.
29 Vitor Rodrigues Caja Rural s.t.
30 Bruno Lima Barbot - Siper s.t.
31 Oleg Chuzhda Caja Rural s.t.
32 Edoardo Girardi Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
33 Cesar Fonte Barbot - Siper s.t.
34 Egoitz GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
35 Bruno Pires Barbot - Siper s.t.
36 Tomas Swift Metcalfe Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
37 DÃdac Ortega Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
38 Francesco Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
39 Ruslan Pidgornyy ISD - Neri s.t.
40 Salvatore Mancuso ISD - Neri s.t.
41 David De la Cruz Caja Rural s.t.
42 Stefano Garzelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
43 David Blanco Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.

Stage 2:
No breaks at all - though it was a windy day causing splits. All back together for finale and a surprise win. Londo Borghini big loser of the day.

Spoiler

Rank Name Team Time
1 Antonio Amorim Barbot - Siper 4h35'17
2 Salvatore Mancuso ISD - Neri s.t.
3 RafaÃ¢ Chtioui Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
4 Tomas Swift Metcalfe Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
5 Aketza PeÃ±a Caja Rural s.t.
6 Alessandro Maserati Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
7 Stefano Garzelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
8 Bruno Pires Barbot - Siper s.t.
9 Henrique Casimiro Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
10 Andrea NoÃ¨ Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
11 Simone Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
12 Carlos Baltazar Barbot - Siper s.t.
13 Mario Costa Barbot - Siper s.t.
14 SÃ©rgio Ribeiro Barbot - Siper s.t.
15 Bruno Lima Barbot - Siper s.t.
16 AndrÃ© Cardoso Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
17 David Blanco Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
18 Francesco Failli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
19 Filippo Baggio Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
20 Santo Anza Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
21 Francesco Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
22 Samuel Caldeira Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
23 Oscar Gatto ISD - Neri s.t.
24 Massimo Codol Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
25 Michał Kwiatkowski Caja Rural s.t.
26 CÃ¢ndido Barbosa Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
27 Simon Clarke ISD - Neri s.t.
28 Vitor Rodrigues Caja Rural s.t.
29 Ruslan Pidgornyy ISD - Neri s.t.
30 Emanuele Vona ISD - Neri s.t.
31 Nelson Victorino Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
32 Egoitz GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
33 Edoardo Girardi Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
34 Raivis Belohvosciks Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
35 David De la Cruz Caja Rural s.t.
36 Oleg Chuzhda Caja Rural s.t.
37 Fabrizio Lucciola Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
38 Davide Ricci Bitti ISD - Neri s.t.
39 RubÃ©n GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
40 DÃdac Ortega Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci + 1'56
41 Paolo Longo Borghini ISD - Neri s.t.
42 HÃ©lder Oliveira Barbot - Siper s.t.
43 Cesar Fonte Barbot - Siper + 5'24

Stage 3:
Sprinters in action today - we do get a bit of a strange one though Gatto looks like he is going to win but stops at last second allowing Failli through.

Spoiler

Rank Name Team Time
1 Francesco Failli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci 3h53'19
2 Oscar Gatto ISD - Neri s.t.
3 Bruno Lima Barbot - Siper s.t.
4 Massimo Codol Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
5 Paolo Longo Borghini ISD - Neri s.t.
6 Fabrizio Lucciola Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
7 Emanuele Vona ISD - Neri s.t.
8 RafaÃ¢ Chtioui Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
9 Bruno Pires Barbot - Siper s.t.
10 HÃ©lder Oliveira Barbot - Siper s.t.
11 Carlos Baltazar Barbot - Siper s.t.
12 Nelson Victorino Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
13 AndrÃ© Cardoso Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
14 SÃ©rgio Ribeiro Barbot - Siper s.t.
15 Samuel Caldeira Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
16 Tomas Swift Metcalfe Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
17 DÃdac Ortega Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
18 Davide Ricci Bitti ISD - Neri s.t.
19 Cesar Fonte Barbot - Siper s.t.
20 Edoardo Girardi Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
21 Mario Costa Barbot - Siper s.t.
22 Simone Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
23 Antonio Amorim Barbot - Siper s.t.
24 Filippo Baggio Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
25 David Blanco Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
26 CÃ¢ndido Barbosa Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
27 Salvatore Mancuso ISD - Neri s.t.
28 Aketza PeÃ±a Caja Rural s.t.
29 Andrea NoÃ¨ Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
30 Alessandro Maserati Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
31 Francesco Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
32 Santo Anza Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
33 Simon Clarke ISD - Neri s.t.
34 RubÃ©n GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
35 Michał Kwiatkowski Caja Rural s.t.
36 Henrique Casimiro Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
37 David De la Cruz Caja Rural s.t.
38 Vitor Rodrigues Caja Rural s.t.
39 Raivis Belohvosciks Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
40 Egoitz GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
41 Stefano Garzelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
42 Ruslan Pidgornyy ISD - Neri s.t.
43 Oleg Chuzhda Caja Rural s.t.

Stage 4:

A better sprint here - Lima wins it fair and square - Gatto does take GC lead though.

Spoiler

Rank Name Team Time
1 Bruno Lima Barbot - Siper 4h25'10
2 Oscar Gatto ISD - Neri s.t.
3 Samuel Caldeira Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
4 Santo Anza Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
5 Carlos Baltazar Barbot - Siper s.t.
6 Edoardo Girardi Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
7 AndrÃ© Cardoso Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
8 Alessandro Maserati Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
9 Emanuele Vona ISD - Neri s.t.
10 Raivis Belohvosciks Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
11 Stefano Garzelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
12 Tomas Swift Metcalfe Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
13 Filippo Baggio Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
14 Salvatore Mancuso ISD - Neri s.t.
15 CÃ¢ndido Barbosa Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
16 Nelson Victorino Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
17 Francesco Failli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
18 Paolo Longo Borghini ISD - Neri s.t.
19 Andrea NoÃ¨ Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
20 Michał Kwiatkowski Caja Rural s.t.
21 Bruno Pires Barbot - Siper s.t.
22 Davide Ricci Bitti ISD - Neri s.t.
23 HÃ©lder Oliveira Barbot - Siper s.t.
24 Simon Clarke ISD - Neri s.t.
25 Fabrizio Lucciola Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
26 Vitor Rodrigues Caja Rural s.t.
27 Mario Costa Barbot - Siper s.t.
28 Ruslan Pidgornyy ISD - Neri s.t.
29 SÃ©rgio Ribeiro Barbot - Siper s.t.
30 David Blanco Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
31 RafaÃ¢ Chtioui Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
32 Francesco Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
33 Egoitz GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
34 Oleg Chuzhda Caja Rural s.t.
35 Simone Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
36 Cesar Fonte Barbot - Siper s.t.
37 DÃdac Ortega Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
38 Henrique Casimiro Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
39 Massimo Codol Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
40 Aketza PeÃ±a Caja Rural s.t.
41 Antonio Amorim Barbot - Siper s.t.
42 RubÃ©n GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
43 David De la Cruz Caja Rural s.t.

GC:

Spoiler

Rank Name Team Time
1 Oscar Gatto ISD - Neri 16h14'15
2 Francesco Failli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci + 6
3 Bruno Lima Barbot - Siper s.t.
4 AndrÃ© Cardoso Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 14
5 Antonio Amorim Barbot - Siper s.t.
6 Salvatore Mancuso ISD - Neri + 22
7 Samuel Caldeira Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 26
8 RafaÃ¢ Chtioui Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
9 Davide Ricci Bitti ISD - Neri s.t.
10 Filippo Baggio Ceramica Flaminia + 28
11 Carlos Baltazar Barbot - Siper + 34
12 Emanuele Vona ISD - Neri s.t.
13 Alessandro Maserati Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
14 Nelson Victorino Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
15 Tomas Swift Metcalfe Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.

Stage 5:
After four stages with no break - we get a break of 3 riders. They are caught with 15km to go... Seskin hill causes weaker hill riders to be gapped.

Spoiler

Rank Name Team Time
1 Francesco Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci 3h57'47
2 David Blanco Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
3 Andrea NoÃ¨ Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
4 Massimo Codol Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
5 Stefano Garzelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
6 Francesco Failli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
7 CÃ¢ndido Barbosa Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
8 Simon Clarke ISD - Neri s.t.
9 Bruno Pires Barbot - Siper s.t.
10 Ruslan Pidgornyy ISD - Neri s.t.
11 Paolo Longo Borghini ISD - Neri s.t.
12 Emanuele Vona ISD - Neri s.t.
13 Santo Anza Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
14 AndrÃ© Cardoso Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
15 Nelson Victorino Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
16 DÃdac Ortega Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
17 Simone Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
18 HÃ©lder Oliveira Barbot - Siper s.t.
19 Davide Ricci Bitti ISD - Neri s.t.
20 Mario Costa Barbot - Siper s.t.
21 SÃ©rgio Ribeiro Barbot - Siper + 1'18
22 RafaÃ¢ Chtioui Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
23 Raivis Belohvosciks Ceramica Flaminia + 1'34
24 Oleg Chuzhda Caja Rural + 1'50
25 Edoardo Girardi Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
26 Egoitz GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
27 Salvatore Mancuso ISD - Neri s.t.
28 Vitor Rodrigues Caja Rural s.t.
29 Fabrizio Lucciola Ceramica Flaminia + 2'06
30 Carlos Baltazar Barbot - Siper s.t.
31 David De la Cruz Caja Rural s.t.
32 Alessandro Maserati Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
33 Tomas Swift Metcalfe Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
34 Cesar Fonte Barbot - Siper s.t.
35 Filippo Baggio Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
36 Bruno Lima Barbot - Siper s.t.
37 Henrique Casimiro Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
38 Aketza PeÃ±a Caja Rural s.t.
39 Oscar Gatto ISD - Neri s.t.
40 Samuel Caldeira Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
41 Antonio Amorim Barbot - Siper + 2'38
42 Michał Kwiatkowski Caja Rural s.t.
43 RubÃ©n GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.

Failli takes the GC lead.

Spoiler

Rank Name Team Time
1 Francesco Failli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci 20h12'08
2 AndrÃ© Cardoso Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 8
3 Francesco Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
4 David Blanco Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 16
5 Andrea NoÃ¨ Ceramica Flaminia + 20
6 Davide Ricci Bitti ISD - Neri s.t.
7 Emanuele Vona ISD - Neri + 28
8 Nelson Victorino Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
9 Bruno Pires Barbot - Siper s.t.
10 Massimo Codol Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
11 Mario Costa Barbot - Siper s.t.
12 Santo Anza Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
13 Simone Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
14 CÃ¢ndido Barbosa Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
15 Simon Clarke ISD - Neri s.t.
16 Stefano Garzelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
17 Ruslan Pidgornyy ISD - Neri s.t.
18 RafaÃ¢ Chtioui Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci + 1'38
19 SÃ©rgio Ribeiro Barbot - Siper + 1'46
20 Oscar Gatto ISD - Neri + 2'00

Stage 6:
Lots of climbs in this one - we get a break of three and it makes it to the end. Peleton of 26 is selected. Winner of stage also now GC leader.

Spoiler

Rank Name Team Time
1 Nelson Victorino Palmeiras Resort - Prio 3h23'11
2 Paolo Longo Borghini ISD - Neri s.t.
3 Edoardo Girardi Ceramica Flaminia + 23
4 David Blanco Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 59
5 Andrea NoÃ¨ Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
6 Francesco Failli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
7 Francesco Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
8 CÃ¢ndido Barbosa Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
9 Stefano Garzelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
10 Ruslan Pidgornyy ISD - Neri s.t.
11 Simon Clarke ISD - Neri s.t.
12 Bruno Pires Barbot - Siper s.t.
13 Massimo Codol Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
14 Santo Anza Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
15 AndrÃ© Cardoso Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
16 Emanuele Vona ISD - Neri s.t.
17 HÃ©lder Oliveira Barbot - Siper s.t.
18 DÃdac Ortega Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
19 Simone Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
20 Davide Ricci Bitti ISD - Neri s.t.
21 Mario Costa Barbot - Siper + 1'43
22 SÃ©rgio Ribeiro Barbot - Siper s.t.
23 Salvatore Mancuso ISD - Neri + 1'59
24 RafaÃ¢ Chtioui Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci + 2'15
25 Oleg Chuzhda Caja Rural s.t.
26 Egoitz GarcÃa Caja Rural + 2'31
27 Aketza PeÃ±a Caja Rural s.t.
28 RubÃ©n GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
29 Vitor Rodrigues Caja Rural s.t.
30 Raivis Belohvosciks Ceramica Flaminia + 5'27
31 Filippo Baggio Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
32 Tomas Swift Metcalfe Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
33 Fabrizio Lucciola Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
34 Cesar Fonte Barbot - Siper + 5'51
35 Bruno Lima Barbot - Siper s.t.
36 Antonio Amorim Barbot - Siper s.t.
37 Carlos Baltazar Barbot - Siper s.t.
38 David De la Cruz Caja Rural s.t.
39 Michał Kwiatkowski Caja Rural + 6'07
40 Samuel Caldeira Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 9'19
41 Alessandro Maserati Ceramica Flaminia + 9'35
42 Henrique Casimiro Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
43 Oscar Gatto ISD - Neri s.t.

GC:

Spoiler

Rank Name Team Time
1 Nelson Victorino Palmeiras Resort - Prio 23h35'27
2 Francesco Failli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci + 51
3 AndrÃ© Cardoso Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 59
4 Francesco Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
5 David Blanco Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 1'07
6 Andrea NoÃ¨ Ceramica Flaminia + 1'11
7 Davide Ricci Bitti ISD - Neri s.t.
8 Emanuele Vona ISD - Neri + 1'19
9 Bruno Pires Barbot - Siper s.t.
10 Massimo Codol Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
11 CÃ¢ndido Barbosa Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
12 Santo Anza Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
13 Simon Clarke ISD - Neri s.t.
14 Stefano Garzelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
15 Simone Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
16 Ruslan Pidgornyy ISD - Neri s.t.
17 Paolo Longo Borghini ISD - Neri + 1'52
18 Mario Costa Barbot - Siper + 2'03
19 Edoardo Girardi Ceramica Flaminia + 2'25
20 HÃ©lder Oliveira Barbot - Siper + 3'15

Stage 7:
break of three again - once again peleton lack numbers to close it down. One rider Vona or ISD is high enough on GC and will take GC lead into last stage.

Spoiler

Rank Name Team Time
1 Emanuele Vona ISD - Neri 3h57'20
2 SÃ©rgio Ribeiro Barbot - Siper s.t.
3 Raivis Belohvosciks Ceramica Flaminia + 18
4 Francesco Failli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci + 1'40
5 David Blanco Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
6 Ruslan Pidgornyy ISD - Neri s.t.
7 Stefano Garzelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
8 Simon Clarke ISD - Neri s.t.
9 Santo Anza Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
10 Francesco Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
11 Bruno Pires Barbot - Siper s.t.
12 Massimo Codol Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
13 Andrea NoÃ¨ Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
14 Nelson Victorino Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
15 AndrÃ© Cardoso Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
16 HÃ©lder Oliveira Barbot - Siper s.t.
17 Davide Ricci Bitti ISD - Neri s.t.
18 DÃdac Ortega Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
19 CÃ¢ndido Barbosa Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
20 Paolo Longo Borghini ISD - Neri s.t.
21 Simone Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
22 Aketza PeÃ±a Caja Rural s.t.
23 Vitor Rodrigues Caja Rural s.t.
24 Egoitz GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
25 Oleg Chuzhda Caja Rural + 2'23
26 Edoardo Girardi Ceramica Flaminia + 5'05
27 RafaÃ¢ Chtioui Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
28 Fabrizio Lucciola Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
29 RubÃ©n GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
30 Michał Kwiatkowski Caja Rural s.t.
31 Cesar Fonte Barbot - Siper + 5'29
32 Mario Costa Barbot - Siper s.t.
33 Carlos Baltazar Barbot - Siper s.t.
34 Salvatore Mancuso ISD - Neri s.t.
35 Samuel Caldeira Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
36 Alessandro Maserati Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
37 Filippo Baggio Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
38 Oscar Gatto ISD - Neri s.t.
39 David De la Cruz Caja Rural s.t.
40 Henrique Casimiro Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 5'45
41 Bruno Lima Barbot - Siper s.t.
42 Tomas Swift Metcalfe Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
43 Antonio Amorim Barbot - Siper s.t.

GC:

Spoiler

Rank Name Team Time
1 Emanuele Vona ISD - Neri 27h33'46
2 Nelson Victorino Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 41
3 Francesco Failli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci + 1'32
4 AndrÃ© Cardoso Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 1'40
5 Francesco Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
6 David Blanco Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 1'48
7 Andrea NoÃ¨ Ceramica Flaminia + 1'52
8 Davide Ricci Bitti ISD - Neri s.t.
9 Bruno Pires Barbot - Siper + 2'00
10 Massimo Codol Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
11 Santo Anza Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
12 Simon Clarke ISD - Neri s.t.
13 Stefano Garzelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
14 CÃ¢ndido Barbosa Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
15 Simone Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
16 Ruslan Pidgornyy ISD - Neri s.t.
17 SÃ©rgio Ribeiro Barbot - Siper + 2'10
18 Paolo Longo Borghini ISD - Neri + 2'33
19 HÃ©lder Oliveira Barbot - Siper + 3'56
20 DÃdac Ortega Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.

Final stage:

Break of three no-one a danger on GC - it stays clear. Garzelli wins sprint for fourth - it hasn't been his tour but it wasn't really tough enough for him!

Spoiler

Rank Name Team Time
1 Mario Costa Barbot - Siper 3h16'52
2 Filippo Baggio Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
3 DÃdac Ortega Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
4 Stefano Garzelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci + 53
5 Simon Clarke ISD - Neri s.t.
6 Santo Anza Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
7 David Blanco Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
8 Emanuele Vona ISD - Neri s.t.
9 Nelson Victorino Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
10 Ruslan Pidgornyy ISD - Neri s.t.
11 Francesco Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
12 Francesco Failli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
13 Bruno Pires Barbot - Siper s.t.
14 AndrÃ© Cardoso Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
15 Davide Ricci Bitti ISD - Neri s.t.
16 Andrea NoÃ¨ Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
17 Edoardo Girardi Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
18 Salvatore Mancuso ISD - Neri s.t.
19 RafaÃ¢ Chtioui Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
20 Raivis Belohvosciks Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
21 SÃ©rgio Ribeiro Barbot - Siper s.t.
22 Oscar Gatto ISD - Neri s.t.
23 Michał Kwiatkowski Caja Rural s.t.
24 HÃ©lder Oliveira Barbot - Siper s.t.
25 CÃ¢ndido Barbosa Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
26 Tomas Swift Metcalfe Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
27 Paolo Longo Borghini ISD - Neri s.t.
28 Massimo Codol Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
29 Oleg Chuzhda Caja Rural s.t.
30 David De la Cruz Caja Rural s.t.
31 Fabrizio Lucciola Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
32 Alessandro Maserati Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
33 Simone Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
34 Samuel Caldeira Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
35 Cesar Fonte Barbot - Siper s.t.
36 RubÃ©n GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
37 Aketza PeÃ±a Caja Rural s.t.
38 Egoitz GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
39 Vitor Rodrigues Caja Rural s.t.
40 Carlos Baltazar Barbot - Siper s.t.
41 Henrique Casimiro Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 2'21
42 Bruno Lima Barbot - Siper s.t.
43 Antonio Amorim Barbot - Siper + 4'05

Final GC:

Spoiler

Rank Name Team Time
1 Emanuele Vona ISD - Neri 30h51'31
2 Nelson Victorino Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 41
3 Francesco Failli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci + 1'32
4 AndrÃ© Cardoso Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 1'40
5 Francesco Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
6 David Blanco Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 1'48
7 Andrea NoÃ¨ Ceramica Flaminia + 1'52
8 Davide Ricci Bitti ISD - Neri s.t.
9 Bruno Pires Barbot - Siper + 2'00
10 Santo Anza Ceramica Flaminia s.t.
11 Stefano Garzelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
12 Simon Clarke ISD - Neri s.t.
13 Massimo Codol Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
14 CÃ¢ndido Barbosa Palmeiras Resort - Prio s.t.
15 Simone Masciarelli Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci s.t.
16 Ruslan Pidgornyy ISD - Neri s.t.
17 SÃ©rgio Ribeiro Barbot - Siper + 2'10
18 Paolo Longo Borghini ISD - Neri + 2'33
19 DÃdac Ortega Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci + 2'55
20 HÃ©lder Oliveira Barbot - Siper + 3'56
21 Mario Costa Barbot - Siper + 5'20
22 Vitor Rodrigues Caja Rural + 5'22
23 Egoitz GarcÃa Caja Rural s.t.
24 Aketza PeÃ±a Caja Rural + 5'38
25 Oleg Chuzhda Caja Rural + 5'49
26 Edoardo Girardi Ceramica Flaminia + 6'31
27 Raivis Belohvosciks Ceramica Flaminia + 6'32
28 RafaÃ¢ Chtioui Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci + 7'51
29 Salvatore Mancuso ISD - Neri + 8'27
30 RubÃ©n GarcÃa Caja Rural + 9'35
31 Filippo Baggio Ceramica Flaminia + 11'12
32 Fabrizio Lucciola Ceramica Flaminia + 11'59
33 Tomas Swift Metcalfe Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 12'39
34 Carlos Baltazar Barbot - Siper + 12'47
35 David De la Cruz Caja Rural s.t.
36 Michał Kwiatkowski Caja Rural + 13'11
37 Bruno Lima Barbot - Siper + 14'03
38 Oscar Gatto ISD - Neri + 15'57
39 Samuel Caldeira Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 16'07
40 Antonio Amorim Barbot - Siper + 16'27
41 Alessandro Maserati Ceramica Flaminia + 16'31
42 Cesar Fonte Barbot - Siper + 18'11
43 Henrique Casimiro Palmeiras Resort - Prio + 18'15

My thoughts: Various different stage winners, bonifications were important but breakaways had the glory. Slightly disappointed with stage 2's sprint results - but stage 3 and 4 at least gave fair sprints. First four stages we saw no breakaways - then later on breakaways won stages - but there were goodish riders in the breaks.

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Any idea what time gap setting was used for Stage 5?

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I set it to 10 seconds - the game was showing 8 seconds for Francesco Masciarelli and Blanco and Noe had a similar gap back to the A+S led front group on that stage.

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In my PCM10 experience all uphill sprint longer than just a tiny bit should have maximum 7. 10 for very short uphill sections and short descents after a mountain stage. 20 for flat stages or very long descents after a mountain.
Everytime if there is a hill in the end of the stage and the profile is set to hill then also 10s.

In very few stages you need something in between like 3 (flat stage with just one short climb in the end (full climb sprint) or 14.

In the 5th stage I would go for 3-7 for bigger selections.

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The season will begin in PCM10, Patch 1.0.4.1

If PCM11 turns out good, we may or may not consider a mid-season switch.

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Oleg, what is the difference between the patches? Just so everyone know (my pc can't run pcm10)

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1.0.4.2 ruins the sprints, 1.0.4.1 doesn't.

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Ah, how are the sprints, compared to pcm09? Is it worth it to make trains or is it still "2 rider" trains?

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Sprints are worse since the trains start forming later than in PCM09.

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CrueTrue wrote:
Sprints are worse since the trains start forming later than in PCM09.

Youre saying sprints are worse in PCM10 than PCM09? Even 1.0.4.1?

And worse because they form later? PCM09 sprints were so bad because they formed too early too often., as well as the all too-often occurence of riders getting stuck

#55

Posted on 16-03-2011 12:45

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It's been a while since I last played properly (= not testing a certain PCM.daily DB), so it may be better if others make the conclusion.

#56

Posted on 16-03-2011 13:00

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The prologue stat is formula-based.

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#57

Posted on 16-03-2011 13:46

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Oleg, in your opinion is patch 4.1 better or 4.2 since i have only played with 4.1?

#58

Posted on 16-03-2011 13:48

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There's no doubt that 1.0.4.1 is better than 1.0.4.2.

#59

Posted on 16-03-2011 13:55

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Most likely is that for the Man Game, TT stat = Prologue stat.
We've looked at formulas, but not been entirely satisfied - and the amount of extra work it would cause is not worth the effort right now.