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Yeah and to be honest, I would have preferred both Phinney and Plaza :-)
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rjc_43
And I preferred Coppel and Reus. I'd trade a "great" rider, for one I like. Makes the game fun for me.

EDIT: And I trade with people I like.

And I like that Ignatiev is in the lead, but I dislike the lack of time gaps. I feel like Stannard should have been punished for beating Ignatiev in a TT.
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rjc_43 wrote:
And I preferred Coppel and Reus. I'd trade a "great" rider, for one I like. Makes the game fun for me.

EDIT: And I trade with people I like.

And I like that Ignatiev is in the lead, but I dislike the lack of time gaps. I feel like Stannard should have been punished for beating Ignatiev in a TT.


Better?
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beagle
wohooo, Terpstra!

anyway, terrible performance from my team...
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Deadpool
A nice stage podium spot and top 5 for Raisin.
 
Levi4life
A decent result for my team. I was hoping Zirbel and Peterson could move a bit farther upon GC, but Jacques Maynes made off with 8th, which is a good result with such low expectations.
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rjc_43
mb2612 wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
And I preferred Coppel and Reus. I'd trade a "great" rider, for one I like. Makes the game fun for me.

EDIT: And I trade with people I like.

And I like that Ignatiev is in the lead, but I dislike the lack of time gaps. I feel like Stannard should have been punished for beating Ignatiev in a TT.


Better?


*visibly exhales

Very very very much better. Points and GC, I'll take that thanks very much.
 
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Kami
Just terrible. First no time gap on stage 4 and no Kirchen not even attacking. First goal failed Rolling Eyes
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Smowz
Well slightly disappointed that Kilun could not make the split - would have put him in the top 10, but it was a crap shoot really. Kilun should go better in the Tour of America.

Ignatiev had a fantastic race here and performed like the rider he certainly can be. At last Wiggle do make some significant ground on Ikea.

Difficult to see many of the promotion candidates really moving forward because of this - Milka had an okay race, as did Mercedes. It was teams like Unicredit, Tinkoff, El Al and even Cillit Bang (and 100% ME though they tumbled out of GC) who showed themselves here.


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SotD
rjc_43 wrote:
And I preferred Coppel and Reus. I'd trade a "great" rider, for one I like. Makes the game fun for me.

EDIT: And I trade with people I like.



Exactly my point as to why we shouldn't have short term loans Wink

But your trades haven't turned out for the worse for sure. Those riders have done wonders for you, and you have a lineup very different from everyone else, so definately a good move you took...
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Roman
It turned from a good race to an ok race in the end. The last stage was too hard for Thor. Solid 9th place overall and a stage win.
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Thrige
Now Gasparotto actually begins to win races. This could be interesting.
 
SportingNonsense
Rankings

Missouri/L-Z Update

Team

Missouri's win pushes Wiggle back up to the 1000 point margin of safety into the promotion zone. 100% Me are in 3rd, with SL Benfica holding onto 4th and Petronas 5th. The last 2 of the definite 4 promotion spots are therefore currently held by Milka and UBS - which then leaves Pendleton's and Santander close. Tinkoff meanwhile are up to 14th, an interesting position with the Tour of America having recently started.

1Team IKEA - Bianchi4469
2Wiggle - San Pellegrino3959
3100% Me3119
4Sport Lisboa e Benfica3005
5Petronas - Olympus2966
6Bacardi - Colt2936
7Milka2873
8UBS - Annie Chun's2866
9Pendleton's Twicer2846
10Santander2812
11Team LEGO2697
12Bimbo Nutella2643
13Team Pokerstars.com2493
14Tinkoff Credit Systems - Rosneft2292
15Mercedes-Benz2277
16Red Bull2194
17Team Telenor-SAS2160
18Vespa-Caffrey's1795
19Pirelli - Internazionale1759
20Cillit Bang - IT-Factory powered by the Moon X1660
21EL AL - IDF1614
22UniCredit1544
23Intesa1376
24Quiksilver-Kraft1357
25YouTube - Twitter1349
26Yamaha - Greenpeace1281
27Team Falcon-Husqvarna1203
28HighRoad-TomTom873
29Bbox Bouygoues Telecom871


Individual

Ignatiev cant quite break the IKEA 1-2, while Kirchen is up to 4th. Cobo, Monfort, Hushovd, Efimkin, Gil, Gilbert, Lloret and Kiryenka are all also scorers in the Top 20.

1ReinTaaramäeESTTeam IKEA - Bianchi1283
2JoseAlarconVENTeam IKEA - Bianchi931
3MikhailIgnatievRUSWiggle - San Pellegrino930
4KimKirchenLUXBacardi - Colt852
5JoséSerpaCOLPirelli - Internazionale831
6Juan JoséCoboESPSantander822
7RiccardoRiccoITABacardi - Colt792
8DavidAbalESPSantander787
9SimonePonziITAWiggle - San Pellegrino769
10JurgenVan den BroeckBELSport Lisboa e Benfica738
11MaximeMonfortBELTeam LEGO707
12ThorHushovdNORMilka674
13BernhardKohlAUTUBS - Annie Chun's627
14PieterVanspeybrouckBELTeam IKEA - Bianchi619
15AleksandrEfimkinRUSMilka617
16FredrikKessiakoffSWDTeam Telenor-SAS610
17KoldoGilESPTeam LEGO579
18PhilippeGilbertBELPendleton's Twicer545
19ManuelLloretESPPetronas - Olympus510
20VasiliKiryenkaBLRTinkoff Credit Systems - Rosneft500
21DanCravenNAMBimbo Nutella496
22JonathanBellisGBRCillit Bang - IT-Factory powered by the Moon X494
23YukiyaArashiroJPNRed Bull485
24DamianoCarusoITAWiggle - San Pellegrino485
25FlorentinoMarquezESPSport Lisboa e Benfica480
26AdamBlytheGBR100% Me468
27JuanVan HeerdenSAFPendleton's Twicer460
28FilippoPozzatoITAMercedes-Benz456
29FranciscoPerez SanchezESPUBS - Annie Chun's453
30AleksandrKolobnevRUSTinkoff Credit Systems - Rosneft446
31StefanSchumacherGERUBS - Annie Chun's436
32LukeRoweGBRWiggle - San Pellegrino417
33JimmyCasperFRAMilka416
34AleksandarFlügelGERTeam IKEA - Bianchi413
35MarkCavendishGBR100% Me413
36DavidLópez GarciaESPSantander412
37TaylorTollesonUSAMercedes-Benz412
38DaniloNapolitanoITAUniCredit407
39HassenBen NasserTUNCillit Bang - IT-Factory powered by the Moon X393
40BernhardEiselAUTBimbo Nutella385
41GertSteegmansBELVespa-Caffrey's384
42SimonGerransAUSPetronas - Olympus383
43MaximilianoRichezeARGUBS - Annie Chun's377
44John-LeeAugustynSAFRed Bull376
45MatthewGossAUSBacardi - Colt375
46RicardoVan der VeldeNEDPetronas - Olympus372
47ChrisFroomeGBR100% Me370
48VladimirGusevRUSCillit Bang - IT-Factory powered by the Moon X370
49FrancoPellizottiITAYouTube - Twitter367
50FrancescoGinanniITAVespa-Caffrey's366

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Roman
SN, can you post (if it is possible) the team standings with points per race day, please?
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SportingNonsense
Its too much effort to do that with every rankings update
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Roman
No problem. I hadn't something to do this evening, so I made it by myself. I hope it is accurate.

PosTeamTotalRD UsedPoints per RDProjection
1Team IKEA - Bianchi446913333,65040
2Wiggle - San Pellegrino395912431,94789
3100% Me311911427,44104
4Pendleton's Twicer284610626,84027
5Milka287311624,83715
6Bacardi - Colt293612024,53670
7Petronas - Olympus296612723,43503
8UBS - Annie Chun's286612323,33495
9Team LEGO269711822,93428
10Sport Lisboa e Benfica300513522,33339
11Santander281212822,03295
12Mercedes-Benz227710821,13163
13Team Pokerstars.com249312220,43065
14Bimbo Nutella264313120,23026
15Tinkoff Credit Systems - Rosneft229211519,92990
16Red Bull219411119,82965
17Pirelli - Internazionale175911115,82377
18Vespa-Caffrey's179511615,52321
19Team Telenor-SAS216014215,22282
20EL AL - IDF161411114,52181
21Quiksilver-Kraft13579813,82077
22Cillit Bang - IT-Factory powered by the Moon X166012013,82075
23UniCredit154412912,01795
24Intesa137611811,71749
25YouTube - Twitter134912111,11672
26Team Falcon-Husqvarna12031329,11367
27Yamaha - Greenpeace12811419,11363
28Bbox Bouygoues Telecom8711157,61136
29HighRoad-TomTom8731306,71007

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Smowz
Well chances of a top ten look pretty bleak for Red Bull at the moment - of course there is still time for the Tour of America to turn around, but the first three stages look like (despite a small field) we are going to struggle to break the 20 point per race day barrier.

The Tour of Britain looks set change both the team and individual - three stages left there in the last HC stage race of the season. We still have three big HC one dayers. Vattenfalls that should favour those poor sprinters (barring Hushovd the lack of them high on the overall speaks volumes), Emilia (Ricco/Ponzi anyone?) and Japan Cup (Gilbert anyone?).

I am almost certain there will at least six promotion spots available (Four + La Gazzetta + Auber 93). But there is that chance one or two other Protour teams may call it a day (the lack of comments by the Warner Brothers team boss is a concern) or Starbucks somehow avoid relegation (I don't think they will by the way). It does open things up for teams down to Red Bull - Santander in particular. Position though is important for goals and prestige as much as anything else!

Looking at the individual - can anyone catch Taaramae? Ponzi's greater race days could get him up there. Gilbert and Efimkin I think have a number of race days left also but is a bit far back. Dominating a short tour does seem to just give the advantage to the Estonian - then again winning Burgos and San Luis is a fine achievement.
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