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Run time error crash
vmart77
Re-installed the game twice, still not able to play in 3d-Modus. Alway a Runtime Error. Tryed it in careers and in a Tour de France...

Sad
 
ace961
I have an Alienware Laptop built for gaming with 4gb RAM and I still get runtime errors and crashes all the time. I'm putting it down to Windows Vista. Tempted to try Windows 7 but that uses alot of RAM just to run too... Back to WindowsXP is probably the way forward!
 
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Lachi
vmart77:
What exactly is your problem. Does the game start? Can you start a career? Did you delete all the old saves? Did you delete the whole pcm folder in "my documents" before you installed the game again?
Hint: Before deleting you might want to backup.

ace961:
I wouldn't say that 7 needs much RAM to run if you don't use aero (same goes for Vista of course as 7 is only Vista v2). At least the RAM cannot be responsible for the crashes. Did you try to play at the lowest graphic settings?
Hint: Everything unchecked are not the lowest settings.
 
vmart77
The Game starts. I can start a Career. I can simulate a Career. ( tested it until late February). I deleteted the whole PCM-Folder AND the Folders in MyDoc, before insatlling. Then i installed the game, got the patch an then insatlles the pcmdailys2010. After that i got a flag problem for countries like Gabun, so i insatlled it again, then flags where ok. When i play a carrer i was twice able to do the australian road race championchip in 3d-modus. The next race i tried (different ones) always got the runtime error in 3d-modus when loading cyclist textures.
 
Lachi
Have you ever tried another DB? Sadly you would need to deinstall completely to try the official DB from cyanide but by doing so you could check if it is related to the DB.

But before you do, go check if there is a fix for the pcmdaily 2010. I think there was something, but I cannot say if it related to your problem.
 
Stijn_vranken
Lachi wrote:

ace961:
I wouldn't say that 7 needs much RAM to run if you don't use aero (same goes for Vista of course as 7 is only Vista v2). At least the RAM cannot be responsible for the crashes. Did you try to play at the lowest graphic settings?
Hint: Everything unchecked are not the lowest settings.


In theory:windows 7 uses less RAM & memory resources then Vista.
Yet 2 Gig Ram is recommended. And i have to agree to the fact that aero is sh*t.

@ace961 try disableing the shaders.
Edited by Stijn_vranken on 07-04-2010 15:10
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vmart77
Deinstalled it again, then got the patch, then the 2010 PCM Daily. Again Run Time errors. So i uinstalled everything again. This Time tried only with the normal Patch. Finally got a new result. Played AUS Champs, ok. Then 1st Etap of TDU. No Runtime Error, but a bt like Donnie Darko Effect, if somone knows the Movie. Out of the riders there are going graphics along the whole Street, some seconds later the Game crashed. I'm quite pissed off...just wanna play. Anybody an idea what might be wrong? Its not the downloaded game btw, just the normal game, which i bought in a shop.
 
Lachi
Are you sure that your computer applies to the minimal system requirements as written on the back of the game? Have you reduced all graphical options in the game? Have you unchecked the option "record replay"?
 
vmart77
Yes, i am sure that my Computer can handle it. And everything with the game was fine for 6 Month.

Tried to play a Single Race in between, Game crashed again, when loading Textures. Frustrating...
 
apolloc
Cyanide Studios, if you should happen to be reading this,

I'm getting the same runtime C++ error but naturally it didn't happen until I got to the Tour. Stage 3 crashed three times in a row with around 60 km to. I deactivated replays and shadows and tried again, and this time it worked until after the race, crashing where the highlights would normally be shown. That's four times and well over an hour of playing for nothing.

It's sad that the developers still haven't managed to make a stable game without memory leaks or crashes after all these years. Every edition I've played there's been stability issues, prompting players to be satisfied with new versions as long as there are fewer issues than in previous editions. That's just not the way it's supposed to be.

A 4GB RAM Pentium I5 750 with 5870 should have problems running this game, and yet I can't utilise it's full power because the game crashes if I use 8x AA sampling, even though the computer runs the game fine on max settings. And I haven't had any stability problems in ANY other games I've played with these specs.

Simming through Tour-stages simply doesn't suffice and restarting careers after so long is just futile as long as there's always the risk that it will crash again. I'm hoping that the upcoming edition will be better but I have my doubts. It's sad, because after all this is a great, great game, yet incredibly frustrating.

Okay, that's enough ranting for one day. Sorry but I just had to get this off my chest. Smile
 
CrueTrue
Are you by any chance using a custom DB?

After all, they do increase the instablity. E.g., the PCM.daily DB comes with new stages, equipment, etc. which expand the game to levels that it wasn't designed for. Plus, crashes after the stage could be due to incorrect podium settings - again, due to the DB, not the game itself.

That said, there's definitely some memory problems with the game. I suppose that the new graphic engine takes care of this, but I don't know. We can only hope.
 
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wpsracing78
Howdy, having the same problems unfortunately.

Only since using the 2010DB, but I've unistalled/reinstalled the game, installed the db to the right place, lowering graphics etc etc.

The problem is - I could run the original game and the 09 DB on full graphics.... but I'm on 0,0,0,0, and everything off but still getting the runtime error...

Running out of options Sad

Starting to think that the DB itself is very hard on the comp Sad
It definately takes triple the time to load the stages.
 
CrueTrue
Just to be sure: Does it crash during stages?
 
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roturn
The pcm daily 2010 has more graphical stuff than the original game. So it can happen that your graphic card will have a problem. If you just want to use a 2010 db you can try RSM-News 2010 DB, Both of them are good.
Otherwise you should play an 09 DB if everything worked there. You should try Plakkers.
 
wpsracing78
Yeah CrueTrue, similar to most here, just at random times during the stage.

Something that may help - I played the tour down under as a stage rcae (not career mode) and all 6 stages worked no problems.
In Career mode I generally don't make it without a crash or 2.

Tour de france also takes 40 years to load the graphical elements. That however is out of career mode too.

So yeah, hard to know - but all I can say is I'm on full minimum and I could play it on Full Maximum on the original game.
Surely the highest res DB in the world couldn't be that hard on the graphics!?

Edit, surely it is the stages - is it possible to perhaps use the original stages with the 2010DB?
Or would that mess everything up like the AI organisation etc etc?
I'd sure as hell rather last yrs races than last yrs teams!
Edited by wpsracing78 on 20-05-2010 10:19
 
CrueTrue
The easiest, perhaps, would be to copy the stage details from STA_race and STA_stage from the original DB to the PCM.daily DB using either the Full Editor V4 or Hannes Converter.

Not sure whether you have any experience with editing, but it's basically just copy/pasting from one Excel document to another.
 
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wpsracing78
ahk, so it's not as easy as just swapping the 2010 stage folder with the original Sad

Could it perhaps be something else I've missed?
maybe it is in the wrong folder - should be in the core folder of cyanide right!? "pro cycling manager - 2009" I'm not new enough to fall for that one though!
 
Lachi
wpsracing78 wrote:
but I'm on 0,0,0,0, and everything off but still getting the runtime error...
To play with the lowest settings you have to set the screen resolution and anti-aliasing to the lowest, set all graphic options to 0, turn on deactivate replay, other options should be off (intro videos can be ignored).
But I am not sure how to set "force options" which can make the game ignore all your settings.
 
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