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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 28-02-2010 19:10
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i think my eyes are broken because i can'ts see anything like that on the 1st page of this thread.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 28-02-2010 19:23
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
i think my eyes are broken because i can'ts see anything like that on the 1st page of this thread.
Its at the bottom of Page 1, and I quoted it on Page 2. So yeh, broken eyes.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 01-03-2010 15:28
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I'm a little surprised, to say the least, with the goals that some new teams have set themselves. Winning Trentino, or gaining promotion. Pretty much impossible goals. All I can see happening, is them crippling themselves for next season (or at least I hope that's what happens) as a result of failing stupidly set goals.
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| Heine |
Posted on 01-03-2010 15:33
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Luckily I'm not one of those setting promotion as goal 
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 01-03-2010 15:34
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Well they have to predict that they win something, and for Italian teams Trentino is as good a bet as anywhere else.
As far as promotion goes, confidence is key.
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| Kami |
Posted on 01-03-2010 15:48
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I'm a little surprised, to say the least, with the goals that some new teams have set themselves. Winning Trentino, or gaining promotion. Pretty much impossible goals. All I can see happening, is them crippling themselves for next season (or at least I hope that's what happens) as a result of failing stupidly set goals.
Seeing that 'gaining promotion' is obviously pointed out to me, i feel the need to respond to this. I have asked how many teams can promote to the pro tour. The answer i was given was 4, which is what comes closest to top 5 for me (if a Pro Tour team disbands or something other happens). Ofcourse that's a hard goal, im very well aware of that.
On top of that you wish us bad luck with that, which i, personally, find insulting. That would be something like telling a cyclist that he should crash, which imo is pretty horrible to wish that to anyone. Last year, Alexkr took top 5 as a goal, didnt see you critise that. You also took top 5 for last year or 2 years ago, which i assume was when Wiggle was a new team? So how does that differs from me?
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 01-03-2010 15:56
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I've never got to top 5 as Wiggle, I managed to come in the top 10 this season, and top 20 last. Had the new teams last year not been allowed to ruin the transfers for some of us, then maybe I would have managed promotion after all. It's still a sensitive situation for me. One I did not wish to repeat, and yet it looks the very same.
Wiggle was around from the very start, so maybe a little research before you go about saying things, would be better.
I do not wish ANY manager bad luck, that would be ridiculous, and I did not write anything hinting towards that. I just stated that for those managers who may be setting goals that are not-possible for a new team, I hope they get punished for it.
You didn't see me complaining last time because you weren't active the last time it occured. And I think most long-lasting managers could probably testify to my great dislike of how things went last season, and are likely to go this season. Especially as I see abuse of the system occuring, which I pleaded would not happen again.
Regardless, it wasn't pointed out just to you. There are more than just your team that's set a Top 5 in team rankings with, so don't be so self-centered.
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| Setzel |
Posted on 01-03-2010 16:09
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with just 3.7 milions as a budget you have to pray for some divine luck and that you can snatch 2-3 good riders that will promote you to PT hard goals and you will have to play some hard game on the transfer market to reach it , i can see rjc point here , he is worried that you will just crush and burn then next year you will disband the team screwing the game but i am faithfull that the newcomers will prove themself
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| Kami |
Posted on 01-03-2010 16:12
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I didn't mean take the top 5 itself. I ment set it as a goal, which was also your original point. You cleary said new teams in your first post, and of the new teams, i am currently the only one with that goal, so no i aint self-centered. But like i said, i dont know if this was your first season with Wiggle or not.
I did hear something about the last year transfers, which might explain why you are being more conservative at the moment. None the less, i have absolutely nothing to do with this, as is none of the new managers, so it's unfair to prejudge us and express a light form of 'hatred' towards the new managers. I know hatred is absolutely not the right word, but i can't think of the appropriate word atm.
If i wouldnt care sh*t about the game then i would have made my goals so i would have had 23 points, which i didn't. I do care about this game, and i won't even try to fuck up.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 01-03-2010 16:12
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Look at it rjc, he has 3.750.000
You have 4,211,000
I have €4,964,000
we also have pre-established teams. There is no way he should beat us unless he is a genius in the transfer market, in which case I can accept that he is a better manager and deserves to go to the PT.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 01-03-2010 16:17
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Rjc is just very wary of new teams after last season - but I do expect it to be harder for new teams to promote this year than it was last year. I dont expect it to be too easy in the transfers for any of the CT teams though, PT teams having an extra million salary cap to play with (and generally a bigger budget)
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 01-03-2010 16:39
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mb2612 wrote:
Look at it rjc, he has 3.750.000
You have 4,211,000
I have €4,964,000
That's a lot of money - you might even be able to re-sign Valverde.  |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 01-03-2010 16:42
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That's the dream, but for free agents it's the salary cap that's important and I don't think I will have as much room as the new teams or the PT teams.
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 01-03-2010 16:49
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I guess as well, if you do want to go up, you need someone with more race days than Valverde. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 01-03-2010 16:52
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The likes of Valverde are great for achieving sponsor goals, less useful in terms of promoting, due to the limits it leads to on who else you can buy. Unless he for some reason goes cheap 
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 02-04-2010 14:18
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Goals Update: Each team is entitled to make 1 race change to their team goals.
For example, if you picked a goal of Top 10 in the Dauphine Libere. You could change that to Top 10 of the Tour de Suisse.
The races you change from, and change to, must be the same category of race - so you could not change from Top 10 in the Tour de France to Top 10 in Paris-Nice, for example.
If you want to make a change, PM it to me
Edited by SportingNonsense on 02-04-2010 14:18
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| Vosken94 |
Posted on 02-04-2010 15:51
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Anywhere i can find my goals, i lost them  |
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| viking90 |
Posted on 02-04-2010 15:53
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in your outbox mail when you pm them to SN? |
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| Vosken94 |
Posted on 02-04-2010 15:54
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already fixed  |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 11-04-2010 22:21
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At some of you may have noticed, I just came across the fact that in total 6 of the teams in the game did not have a 'Win' goal, as was required in the rules.
Some had a stage win goal, or to achieve 15 stage wins, but the point of a 'Win' goal was to mean actually winning a race outright - therefore making it a real challenge to achieve 5 goals out of 5.
To make it fair on everyone else, who picked a Win goal even when they did not think that it could be achieved, these teams have been asked to change 2 of their goals.
All of the 4 ProTour teams involved had 2 or 3 'Top 3' Goals, so they were asked to change one of these goals to 'Win' and another to 'Top 10'. (The exception being with Team Standings or the Tour de France, where the 'Top 3' goal is downgraded to 'Top 5' and not 'Top 10' )
The 2 Continental teams involved had either 2 or 3 'Top 5' goals, and they have been asked to change one of these goals to 'Win' and another to 'Top 10'
This means that all teams have the required Win goal, and the total cost of the goals for these 6 teams remains as it was, so does not affect their budget in any way.
It was a mistake that these errors were overlooked at the time, but if any of these 6 managers feels it is unfair, they should also remember that it is their responsibility to read the rules and ensure it is clear to them, as it was to the rest of the teams.
Edited by SportingNonsense on 11-04-2010 22:21
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