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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 07-03-2013 15:14
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Yep, this is new GC,Velits to 3rd!
| USA 1 TALANSKY, Andrew (GARMIN SHARP) 19:35:17 | | UKR 2 GRIVKO, Andriy (ASTANA) + 3 | | SVK 3 VELITS, Peter (OMEGA PHARMA - QUICK-STEP) + 4 | | FRA 4 CHAVANEL, Sylvain (OMEGA PHARMA - QUICK-STEP) | | ESP 5 IZAGUIRRE INSAUSTI, Gorka (EUSKALTEL EUSKADI) + 5 | | NED 6 WESTRA, Lieuwe (VACANSOLEIL-DCM) + 6 | | AUS 7 PORTE, Richie (SKY PROCYCLING) + 7 | | KAZ 8 IGLINSKIY, Maxim (ASTANA) + 13 | | FRA 9 PERAUD, Jean-Christophe (AG2R LA MONDIALE) | | BEL 10 DE CLERCQ, Bart (LOTTO BELISOL) + 15 |
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| ppanther |
Posted on 07-03-2013 15:17
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Metriz- wrote:
fickman wrote:
Spoiler Metriz- wrote:
fickman wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
fickman wrote:
His Team made headlines beacuse of doping and Rabobank retired of cycling because of doping but im pretty sure Gesink has never dope.......... 
fickman. world's. greatest. detective.
Not at all I just lost faith on cleaning cycling at a top level. Christophe Bassons never doped, he rode for Festina. Don't make assumptions based on nothing. Be critical when there is evidence, being cynical is just as ignorant.
I think the one been ignorat is u. Have u forgotten about the article on NRC Handelsblad about Rabobank doping from 1996 to 2012. What more evidence do u want. Denial doesnt give the reason. 
Hey, i don't know if Gesink is doping, that's my point. That's why is brought up Bassons, a rider on a team with organized doping, who didn't dope. When Gesink hasn't been named in person, he might be the odd one out, however unlikely.
You also don't know if Andy Schleck doped. I don't know if it was you but someone mentioned before, that Gesink will never be as good as Contador and Schleck because he doesn't dope. We know Contador likes to eat steaks, but there is either no evidence Gesink or Schleck dope.
In my opinion Gesinks chance for cleanness is near 0, but the same counts for the other top riders. In your example Bassons, who was very talented, wasn't able to be competitive at top level, even though he was regularly beating Virenqeu at winter training camps. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 07-03-2013 15:44
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De Gendt with deliberate time loss to plan an attack?
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| Lachi |
Posted on 07-03-2013 17:09
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It would be great if this thread would be mainly about this race.
You are free to discuss rider stupidity and habits in any other thread (except the Tirreno thread). |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 07-03-2013 18:19
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Finally got a chance to watch the stage. Impressive sprint from Albasini, showing how good he is in sprints like this.
Also happy to see Klöden looking very strong. Could be on his way to a strong GC if he holds up tomorrow. Same goes for Scarponi, who I didn't expect to be this strong.
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| Gino_Bartali |
Posted on 07-03-2013 18:31
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Really impressive ride by Grivko in this race. He was probably one of the strongest on stage 3.
Will be interesting how he does tomorrow; but the competition in this race is not very strong. Since he's a decent timetrialist he should do a good time in the MTT also, especially in his good form atm |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 07-03-2013 18:44
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ppanther wrote:
We know Contador likes to eat steaks, but there is either no evidence Gesink or Schleck dope.
What ?  |
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 07-03-2013 18:51
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ppanther wrote:
We know Contador likes to eat steaks, but there is either no evidence Gesink or Schleck dope.
Maybe that's why Schleck sucks, he just stopped using doping. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 07-03-2013 19:05
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fosforgasXIII wrote:
ppanther wrote:
We know Contador likes to eat steaks, but there is either no evidence Gesink or Schleck dope.
Maybe that's why Schleck sucks, he just stopped using doping.
Lachi wrote:
It would be great if this thread would be mainly about this race.
You are free to discuss rider stupidity and habits in any other thread (except the Tirreno thread). |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-03-2013 19:08
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Why did Fuglsang abandon?
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
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| kumazan |
Posted on 07-03-2013 19:19
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issoisso wrote:
Why did Fuglsang abandon?
I heard stomach problems. He couldn't eat at all so he was empty and couldn't go on.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 07-03-2013 19:19
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Unlucky
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 07-03-2013 19:20
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issoisso wrote:
Why did Fuglsang abandon?
He was sick. Apparently unable to eat/drink without pain.
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| ruben |
Posted on 07-03-2013 19:23
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fickman wrote:
Metriz- wrote:
fickman wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
fickman wrote:
His Team made headlines beacuse of doping and Rabobank retired of cycling because of doping but im pretty sure Gesink has never dope..........
fickman. world's. greatest. detective.
Not at all I just lost faith on cleaning cycling at a top level.  Christophe Bassons never doped, he rode for Festina. Don't make assumptions based on nothing. Be critical when there is evidence, being cynical is just as ignorant.
I think the one been ignorat is u. Have u forgotten about the article on NRC Handelsblad about Rabobank doping from 1996 to 2012. What more evidence do u want. Denial doesnt give the reason.
That article said doping till 2007.
It was only mistranslated by Lequipe.fr (french who can't translate).
So don't be a retard and GTFO please. Moron |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 07-03-2013 19:32
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Lachi wrote:
It would be great if this thread would be mainly about this race.
You are free to discuss rider stupidity and habits in any other thread (except the Tirreno thread). |
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| ruben |
Posted on 07-03-2013 19:40
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yeah sorry but I get fed up with people taking over stupid mistakes from the media like the continious mistranslations that are being made lately.
First that one (lequipe majors ballsack error) and yesterday cyclingnews error (saying Boogerd said he never doped in the Tour, also a mistranslation, he said he didn't dope in SOME tours, not all).
Just tired of people taking that aa the truth...
Media are hard on liars and cheats, but when they fuck up themself you can't ever get them to correct an article. |
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| JayJunior072 |
Posted on 07-03-2013 20:45
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Who will win the mountain stage tomorrow?
I think Van Garderen is in good shape, but I think Talansky will stand his ground.
I'm kinda hoping for Westra or Gesink to attack though.
What do you guys think? |
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 07-03-2013 20:53
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JayJunior072 wrote:
Who will win the mountain stage tomorrow?
I think Van Garderen is in good shape, but I think Talansky will stand his ground.
I'm kinda hoping for Westra or Gesink to attack though.
What do you guys think?
I think that some of those who lost time will attack early on, so Quintana for the win maybe? I really hope Löfkvist does well and stays in the favourite-group. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 07-03-2013 20:56
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I'm stubborn: Gesink takes the win tomorrow
Otherwise some other Dutchmen 
The 2 Americans have a good chance too, I think.
Edited by Jesleyh on 07-03-2013 20:57
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| JayJunior072 |
Posted on 07-03-2013 21:22
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gotlandrules wrote:
JayJunior072 wrote:
Who will win the mountain stage tomorrow?
I think Van Garderen is in good shape, but I think Talansky will stand his ground.
I'm kinda hoping for Westra or Gesink to attack though.
What do you guys think?
I think that some of those who lost time will attack early on, so Quintana for the win maybe? I really hope Löfkvist does well and stays in the favourite-group.
You could be right, Quintana should be eager to win! |
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