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Garmin - 4th season Giro d`Italia
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 15-11-2011 18:33
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Nasty shock with Sanchez's fall. Seems things are okay, so that's good.  Pity that when Farrar is the first in the peloton, there's a breakaway rider at front winning the stage.  |
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 15-11-2011 19:16
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the boys of team Garmin really have no luck
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| MitchNL |
Posted on 15-11-2011 20:53
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Hope LLS is alright, otherwise all GC aspirations of Garmin just faded away...
Also, can you give me Martens' stats? So that I can see if he's a big danger for the GC or not. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 16-11-2011 15:04
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Thanks all.
Indeed a big shocking moment. Not sure if he has a handicap now. His pulse was fine for the last 60km, so I think he isn`t injured. Otherwise I will notice on the next hard stage.
Farrar`s 2nd is a great result, also it feels a bit like he could have won without Martens. But probably he would have suffered much more otherwise.
@MitchNL
He sure is a big threat now. He shouldn`t lose too much time in the 27km time trial. Especially not as it is a bit hilly. Biggest hope now is that he will lose contact on the harder stages, that have some mountain ratio. Not sure how the stages are set in the DB and doesn`T want to know. More fun to see it during the 3D race.  At least one is rated as mountain stage, although I expect the next one to be harder. |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 16-11-2011 15:12
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Farrar won't survive in the hillier stages |
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| vangerner |
Posted on 16-11-2011 16:20
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I think Martens can hold his yellow jersey! It probably depend how good his fitness is... Farrar is also doing great, but in the hilly stages he can't climb with the best Good luck!
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| roturn |
Posted on 16-11-2011 16:36
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I meant on the 4th stage.
If the pace would have been higher to bring Martens back, then Farrar might have struggled more. So the 2nd was fine for me as winning the stage would have been pretty difficult.
On the next stages he definitely won`t have any chance. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 16-11-2011 17:23
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The "race of the two seas" leads from the Tyrrhenian to the Adriatic coast of Italy. It`s held parallel to Paris Nice and a great preparation for the first monument Milano San Remo.
Record championis the Belgium Roger De Vlaeminck who won it 6 times in a row from 1972-1977.
Result in 2012
| 1 | Daniele Bennati | Liquigas - Cannondale | 30h25'01 | | 2 | Francesco Ginanni | Lampre-ISD | + 4 | | 3 | Michele Scarponi | Quick Step - Innergetic | s.t. | | 4 | Jakob Fuglsang | Garmin - Cervelo | + 6 | | 5 | Ryder Hesjedal | Garmin - Cervelo | + 10 | | 6 | Edvald Boasson Hagen | Sky Professional Cycling Team | s.t. | | 7 | Stef Clement | Rabobank | s.t. | | 8 | Filippo Pozzato | Astana | s.t. | | 9 | Jan Bakelants | Omega Pharma-Lotto | s.t. | | 10 | Andy Schleck | Leopard Trek | s.t. |
It was a totally weird race last year. Due to an easier variant Bennati was able to hang on in all the hilly stages and won the race due to his time bonuses ahead of the Italians Ginanni and Scarponi and the Garmin duo Fuglsang and Hesjedal. The first 30 riders had no created time gaps and just the bonus seconds decided the ranking.
Route in 2013
This season there will surely be another winner. The course of the 2011 variant is surely not the hardest again but hard enough to create some nice time gaps and probably no chance for a hilly sprinter.
It includes a short team time trial and a ITT on the last day, some nice uphill finishes and some pretty flat stages.
Garmin squad in 2013
Last years 4th Fuglsang will be our main leader here hoping for a podium. He will have great support by Dan Martin (not totally in form) and Kreder in the harder stages. Also Haussler will try his best to prove the experts wrong. He can ride on his own as long as he feels good. Otherwise he might have to work for Fuglsang, too and go for stage wins in the flat and not too hard stages. Phinney, Bobridge, Meyer and Bookwalter will try to take care for a good opener in the TTT.
Full startlist
Spoiler Sky
1. B.Wiggins
2. D.Appollonio
3. K.Arvesen
4. M.Barry
5. E.Boasson Hagen
6. J.A.Flecha
7. M.Hayman
8. M.Possoni
Quick·Step
11. M.Monfort
12. M.Bandiera
13. S.Chavanel
14. K.De Weert
15. M.Scarponi
16. G.Steegmans
17. N.Terpstra
18. K.Vandewalle
AG2R
21. J.Van den Broeck
22. C.Dessel
23. M.Elmiger
24. B.Kadri
25. Y.Krivtsov
26. M.Montaguti
27. R.Nocentini
28. A.Ravard
Lampre
31. D.Cunego
32. L.Bertagnolli
33. G.Bole
34. F.Gavazzi
35. A.Kashechkin
36. D.Pietropolli
37. B.Szeghalmi
38. D.Ulissi
Movistar
41. C.Evans
42. M.Bruseghin
43. R.Costa
44. J.Herrada
45. C.Oyarzun
46. S.Pardilla
47. F.Pérez
48. E.Sanz
Garmin
51. J.Fuglsang
52. J.Bobridge
53. B.Bookwalter
54. H.Haussler
55. M.Kreder
56. D.Martin
57. C.Meyer
58. T.Phinney
Liquigas
61. P.Gilbert
62. M.Cavendish
63. D.Cimolai
64. M.Da Dalto
65. T.Dall'Antonia
66. K.Koren
67. P.Longo Borghini
68. S.Ponzi
HTC
71. P.Sagan
72. L.Bak
73. A.Ballan
74. T.Bos
75. M.Breschel
76. J.Degenkolb
77. B.Eisel
78. M.Renshaw
Vacansoleil
81. S.Devolder
82. S.Anza
83. M.Carrara
84. T.De Gendt
85. M.Pavarin
86. M.Selvaggi
87. J.Van Leijen
88. F.Veuchelen
Leopard
91. L.Gerdemann
92. A.Lund
93. G.Nizzolo
94. B.Pires
95. T.Stamsnijder
96. D.Viganò
97. R.Wagner
98. F.Wegmann
FDJ
101. B.Vaugrenard
102. N.Bouhanni
103. M.Delage
104. F.Guesdon
105. M.Ladagnous
106. R.Pauriol
107. D.Rollin
108. J.Roy
Colnago
111. B.Mollema
112. G.Brambilla
113. F.Canuti
114. M.Frapporti
115. S.Modolo
116. A.Pagani
117. D.Pozzovivo
118. F.Savini
Katusha
121. D.Menchov
122. A.Arguelyes
123. G.Caruso
124. F.Chicchi
125. D.Di Luca
126. S.Ivanov
127. L.Paolini
128. J.RodrÃguez
Rabobank
131. M.Frank
132. S.Clement
133. Ó.Freire
134. J.M.Gárate
135. M.Matthews
136. M.Tjallingii
137. L.Westra
138. M.Wynants
Shack
141. T.Machado
142. P.Deignan
143. A.Greipel
144. R.Hunter
145. D.Muravyev
146. G.Rast
147. S.Rosseler
148. F.J.Ventoso
Farnese Vini
151. G.Visconti
152. D.Caccia
153. P.De Negri
154. R.De Patre
155. F.Failli
156. E.Favilli
157. T.Miyazawa
158. M.Rabottini
Omega
161. D.Moreno
162. M.Aerts
163. F.De Greef
164. A.Hansen
165. M.Neyens
166. J.Roelandts
167. J.Van de Walle
168. S.Vanmarcke
Saxo Bank
171. R.Kiserlovski
172. J.Bellis
173. M.Boaro
174. M.Christensen
175. R.Hammond
176. S.Kruijswijk
177. S.Langeveld
178. B.Vandborg
Geox
181. J.Rujano
182. T.Alberio
183. M.Brändle
184. M.Corti
185. X.Florencio
186. M.Kump
187. C.Sastre
188. M.Wyss
Euskaltel
191. G.Verdugo
192. P.Bilbao
193. I.Isasi
194. G.Izagirre
195. M.Landa
196. M.Nieve
197. R.Pérez
198. D.Sesma
Astana
201. E.Gasparotto
202. A.Davis
203. M.Gourov
204. J.Jufré
205. J.J.Rojas
206. G.Stangelj
207. P.Tiralongo
208. T.Vaitkus
Androni
211. F.Ginanni
212. L.Barla
213. A.Bertolini
214. R.Chiarini
215. G.Ermeti
216. R.Ferrari
217. A.Santoro
218. B.Swift
Favourites
***** Wiggins
**** Monfort, Van den Broeck
*** Cunego, Evans, Scarponi
** Fuglsang, Gilbert, Sagan, Devolder
* Costa, Gerdemann, Vaugrenard, Mollema, Pozzovivo
Sprints
*** Cavendish
** Haussler, Greipel
* Bole, Steegmans, Boasson Hagen |
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 16-11-2011 17:32
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Good luck here! Fuglsang can do something here, although I think, that he should be better in HILL to go for Overall win But to that point of season, you never know, what's possible.
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| YvesStevens |
Posted on 16-11-2011 18:05
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What stats do actualy count for the Average? |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 16-11-2011 23:42
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A strong looking squad for Tirreno. What type of result are you expecting to achieve |
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| roturn |
Posted on 17-11-2011 09:49
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@ tsmoha: Agree. Different to Sanchez he might have to suffer more on the hilly stages and can`t really challenge the big favourites. And Martin is not that much in form with 70 and also suffers in the time trials.
@ sutty68: I hope for a podium as this is the only improvement to last season. But I think top5 or even just a top7 might be more realistic here.
@ YvesStevens: Depends On the rider type. Stage racer is a mix of climbing, regeneration and time trials if I remember right. Maybe another stat, too. Then always a specific percentage amount of these stats mixed together makes the average. Some rider types like time trialists are bugged as you can see. Bobridge and Meyer would have had a much higher average if the Cyanide system would work as supposed. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 17-11-2011 10:30
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Tirreno - Adriatico Stage 1
Marina di Carrara TTT
16km of pure team work today. The pre race favourites were Garmin, Movistar, Rabobank and HTC. But also teams like Sky and Quickstep have good time trialists in their rows.
Garmin was one of the early starters. They worked very well together but not sure what our time is worth.
21'05
HTC sends an awesome sprint train to this race. Breschel, Sagan, Renshaw, Degenkolb, Bos and Eisel supported by Ballan and Bak. Sagan might more concentrate on the overall probably. They beat us by just 3s. A first sign of a not too bad team timetrial by us.
21'02
Movistar with Evans and Costa totally ruin our good feeling. They finish 28s ahead of us.
20'37
Quickstep is riding with the duo Monfort/Scarponi here. Both of them are potential top5 riders.
20'50
Also Sky with top favourite Wiggins and Boasson Hagen have good chances today. In the end they miss the Movistar time by just 5.
20'42
Rabobank was something like the hidden stage favourite today. In the end they also lose quite a lot of time and finish 1s ahead of Garmin.
20'04
In general not the result we were hoping for. Still have to learn to ride a TTT. Have seen a video yesterday (thanks to cunego59) Will give it a try next time as I was clearly the strongest TT squad here.
Now of course Wiggins and Evans in a perfect position. Also Monfort/Scarponi and Cunego haven`t lost too much time.
Riders like Van Den Broeck, Fuglsang, Gilbert or Sagan will have to show something if they want to improve.
And worst start for the Colnago duo Mollema and Pozzovivo as also for Katusha and Leopard (Gerdemann) today.
First race leader will be Movistar`s Jesús Herrada with Sanz wearing the youth jersey for his team mate.
Result
| 1 | Movistar Team | 20'37 (1) | | 2 | Sky ProCycling | + 5 (2) | | 3 | Lampre - ISD | + 9 (3) | | 4 | Quick·Step Cycling Team | + 13 (4) | | 5 | Saxo Bank SunGard | + 18 (5) | | 6 | Pro Team Astana | + 20 (6) | | 7 | Geox - TMC | + 21 (7) | | 8 | FDJ | + 22 (8) | | 9 | AG2R La Mondiale | + 23 (9) | | 10 | HTC - Highroad | + 25 (10) | | 11 | Omega Pharma - Lotto | + 27 (11) | | 12 | Rabobank Cycling Team | + 27 (12) | | 13 | Liquigas - Cannondale | + 28 (13) | | 14 | Team Garmin - Cervélo | + 28 (14) | | 15 | Team RadioShack | + 30 (15) | | 16 | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | + 32 (16) | | 17 | Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli | + 33 (17) | | 18 | Androni Giocattoli | + 33 (18) | | 19 | Katusha Team | + 36 (19) | | 20 | Colnago - CSF Inox | + 38 (20) | | 21 | Leopard Trek | + 38 (21) | | 22 | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 47 (22) |
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| dienblad |
Posted on 17-11-2011 10:44
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14th is not bad, considering all other TTT-results in the stories!
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| tmobile |
Posted on 17-11-2011 11:32
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38 seconds is nothing. Now we have to start fighting stage by stage.
Come on Garmin!
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| FuglsangxTH3 |
Posted on 17-11-2011 11:56
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tmobile wrote:
38 seconds is nothing. Now we have to start fighting stage by stage.
Come on Garmin!
+1 indeed nothing worse happened
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 17-11-2011 12:21
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It could have been worse, although it's a bit frustrating to finish 14th with the favourited team I would have finished last, that's for sure.. you're still in reach.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 17-11-2011 12:56
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14th is not bad, but then again what's 28s to Team Garmin |
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| roturn |
Posted on 17-11-2011 15:39
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I need quick help.
Just played the next Paris-Nice stage and want to export the results. For some reason I can click as many times as I like and nothing happens. No results in the export folder.
Anyone knows this problem and how to fix it. I am still in the result window of the game.
Or is there any alternative?
I really want these results as it`s one of the most selective stage here and so I`d like to have more than top20 or so.
Same happened on the stage before in Paris Nice but not on another PN stage but not on the first ones and also not in Tirreno. Also the events aren`t exported in these 2 stages...
Edited by roturn on 17-11-2011 15:42
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Posted on 17-11-2011 15:43
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make screens from last results page, that´s only think I can advice
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