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2010 World Cup South Africa
lagetcher
issoisso wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
depappie wrote:
Germany looked quality today, how England are strong favourites to win the world cup over Germany is anyones guess.


A question from a non-football follower:
Are England favourites anywhere outside of.. England?

Because the media here love to play up nothing.


Usually england are considered outsiders. Meaning, some chance, but not likely. But not almost impossible either.


That's probably fair. While they've have improved a lot under Capello England in recent years haven't performed to the best of their ability in major tournaments.
 
kumazan
England? Who? Meh, impossible to hear something about any favourite who isn't Spain here.

Oh wait, no, there is another team with lots of supporters here now, yup, the team of that guy who isn't arrogant at all, Ronaldo? Pfft
 
SotD
Seems like Argentina will go to the WC anyway. The won the game against Peru 2-1 in the 93!!!! minute!!!

What a lucky punch!

Anyway. If Uruguay beats Argentina at home in 3 days, while Ecuador beats already qualified Chile away then Argentina will finish 6th in the group, thus not getting to the WC :-O
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DonJavier
SotD wrote:
Seems like Argentina will go to the WC anyway. The won the game against Peru 2-1 in the 93!!!! minute!!!

What a lucky punch!

Anyway. If Uruguay beats Argentina at home in 3 days, while Ecuador beats already qualified Chile away then Argentina will finish 6th in the group, thus not getting to the WC :-O


Don't worry with Argentina, get worried if Denmark has to play against Chile Pfft
 
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schleck93
DonJavier wrote:
SotD wrote:
Seems like Argentina will go to the WC anyway. The won the game against Peru 2-1 in the 93!!!! minute!!!

What a lucky punch!

Anyway. If Uruguay beats Argentina at home in 3 days, while Ecuador beats already qualified Chile away then Argentina will finish 6th in the group, thus not getting to the WC :-O


Don't worry with Argentina, get worried if Denmark has to play against Chile Pfft


Not you little *random swear words here* again Pfft
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SotD
DonJavier wrote:
SotD wrote:
Seems like Argentina will go to the WC anyway. The won the game against Peru 2-1 in the 93!!!! minute!!!

What a lucky punch!

Anyway. If Uruguay beats Argentina at home in 3 days, while Ecuador beats already qualified Chile away then Argentina will finish 6th in the group, thus not getting to the WC :-O


Don't worry with Argentina, get worried if Denmark has to play against Chile Pfft


Well I would indeed mind if we get Chile in our group. Luckily we are probably going to the same group of draws, the 3rd. So chances are we don't meet until 1/8 finals, and then we should be lucky getting a team like Chile :-)

Looking at the stages atm I think the WC eventually will look something like this:

Seed 1:
Brazil
Spain
Italy
Netherlands
Argentina
Germany
England
France

Seed 2:
Portugal
Mexico
Paraguay
Ghana
Australia
Russia
Serbia
Ivory Coast

Seed 3:
South Africa
Denmark
Switzerland
Japan
Chile
USA
South Korea
Cameroon

Seed 4:
North Korea
New Zealand
Slovenia
Honduras
Algeria
Tunisia
Ecuador
Ukraine

Please correct me, if you think some teams will be placed differently, or that other teams will go to the WC Smile
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DonJavier
Personally I think that Uruguay it's going to the WC instead of Ecuador
 
kumazan
I'd say Bahrein instead of NZ, Egypt instead of Algeria and Slovakia instead of Slovenia.

Oh, and South Africa should be in the seed 1, because they're the host team.
 
SportingNonsense
Its not as straightforward as the 8 best teams go in Pot A, the next 8 best go in Pot B etc. Apart from Pot A which has the 7 best + the host, the others are usually arranged in terms of locations. i.e. all non-seeded European teams in one Pot to prevent more than 2 European teams in a group
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kumazan
Hmm, my memory is falling away now, but I think that they are divided in 4 pots using their FIFA rank as a guide. Then, if 2 european teams are in the same group, the next european team just can't fall in that group. It's pretty much similar to what they do in the Champions League. But I may be wrong.
 
mb2612
kumazan wrote:
Hmm, my memory is falling away now, but I think that they are divided in 4 pots using their FIFA rank as a guide. Then, if 2 european teams are in the same group, the next european team just can't fall in that group. It's pretty much similar to what they do in the Champions League. But I may be wrong.

As far as I know:
They have 8 seeds based mainly on world rank+SA

then they have a group of 8 european nations
Then the rest.
only europe can have 2 countries from the same continent, everywhere eelse just gets one.
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SotD
kumazan wrote:
I'd say Bahrein instead of NZ, Egypt instead of Algeria and Slovakia instead of Slovenia.

Oh, and South Africa should be in the seed 1, because they're the host team.


Slovakia are going to Poland in their last match, while Slovenia has San Marino, I believe it is.

Slovenia will win easily while Slovakia could have quite some problems winning in Poland imo... I know the polish side has nothing to fight for, but that usually isn't a major factor in national side soccer, when not looking at the top 10 teams.
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schleck93
Actually a czech newspaper has offered the San Marino national team 50.000€ for beating Slovenia. Wink
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SotD
mb2612 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Hmm, my memory is falling away now, but I think that they are divided in 4 pots using their FIFA rank as a guide. Then, if 2 european teams are in the same group, the next european team just can't fall in that group. It's pretty much similar to what they do in the Champions League. But I may be wrong.

As far as I know:
They have 8 seeds based mainly on world rank+SA

then they have a group of 8 european nations
Then the rest.
only europe can have 2 countries from the same continent, everywhere eelse just gets one.


So, in that case we have 5 european nations in the 1 seed, + Brazil, Argentina and South Africa?

Probably Spain, England, Italy, Holland, Germany...
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SotD
schleck93 wrote:
Actually a czech newspaper has offered the San Marino national team 50.000€ for beating Slovenia. Wink


Yeah, and they will be fined 10x that amount, if UEFA are to do what they have done previously in cases like this. It's illigal, and you have to assume that San Marino will be fighting every bit as hard whether they get that amount or not, since they are heavily underdogs each time anyway.
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issoisso
If Portugal can't beat Malta I'm going to laugh sooooo hard :lol:
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SotD
issoisso wrote:
If Portugal can't beat Malta I'm going to laugh sooooo hard :lol:


X2...

Only difference is that I really hope they don't, so we can have Sweden in the WC's Smile

Btw, can anyone explain to me why the group with only 5 teams have the dissadvantage of only having 1 team qualifying? The 2nd placed team, Norway are not even given a playoff match?
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Waghlon
YOU WANT SWEDEN AT THE WC?! YOU TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!!
THE THOMAS VOECKLER PROPHET OF PCM DAILY


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schleck93
SotD wrote:
issoisso wrote:
If Portugal can't beat Malta I'm going to laugh sooooo hard :lol:


X2...

Only difference is that I really hope they don't, so we can have Sweden in the WC's Smile

Btw, can anyone explain to me why the group with only 5 teams have the dissadvantage of only having 1 team qualifying? The 2nd placed team, Norway are not even given a playoff match?


The 8 best 2nds are going to playoffs Wink

and I agree with Waghlon here.
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issoisso
SotD wrote:
issoisso wrote:
If Portugal can't beat Malta I'm going to laugh sooooo hard :lol:


X2...

Only difference is that I really hope they don't, so we can have Sweden in the WC's Smile


I honestly don't care AT ALL what happens. It's not my national team, it's my national team plus one brazillian and playing in the wrong colours. If it ever goes back to being my national team in the national colours I'll care and watch.

SotD wrote:
Btw, can anyone explain to me why the group with only 5 teams have the dissadvantage of only having 1 team qualifying? The 2nd placed team, Norway are not even given a playoff match?


8 playoff sports. So the 8 best 2nd places get them. The worst second placed team doesn't get them. To determine who the worst second placed team is, they see who has the most points against the first, third and fourth places of their group.
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