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ABridgeTooFar
I thought this thread was "News in April" and not "Lance Bashing". Not trying to defend Lance but this is getting boring. It is the same conversation that has been going on for like 5-10 years.
 
valverde321
I guess some people find interest in that. Personally I dont. Vino bashing is where its at.Smile
 
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hondo
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
I thought this thread was "News in April" and not "Lance Bashing". Not trying to defend Lance but this is getting boring. It is the same conversation that has been going on for like 5-10 years.


Those who bash Armstrong are just jealous of his great success in life.
 
Deadpool
hondo wrote:
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
I thought this thread was "News in April" and not "Lance Bashing". Not trying to defend Lance but this is getting boring. It is the same conversation that has been going on for like 5-10 years.


Those who bash Armstrong are just jealous of his great success in life.


 
issoisso
Sky for the Giro

Bradley Wiggins
Dario Cioni
Michael Barry
Steve Cummings
Chris Froome
Mathew Hayman
Greg Henderson
Morris Possoni
Chris Sutton
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
 
ruben
hondo wrote:
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
I thought this thread was "News in April" and not "Lance Bashing". Not trying to defend Lance but this is getting boring. It is the same conversation that has been going on for like 5-10 years.


Those who bash Armstrong are just jealous of his great success in life.

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Edited by ruben on 30-04-2010 10:03
 
hellboy
hondo wrote:
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
I thought this thread was "News in April" and not "Lance Bashing". Not trying to defend Lance but this is getting boring. It is the same conversation that has been going on for like 5-10 years.


Those who bash Armstrong are just jealous of his great success in life.


Yeah, i envy him a lot of things,especially being total asshole
Go Roman!
 
Waghlon
hondo wrote:
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
I thought this thread was "News in April" and not "Lance Bashing". Not trying to defend Lance but this is getting boring. It is the same conversation that has been going on for like 5-10 years.


Those who bash Armstrong are just jealous of his great success in life.


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issoisso
I like this interview a lot. Let's call it a portrait of a fallen prospect.

Broken dreams indeed

Since Monday, Alexandr Pliuschin, 23 years old, takes part in the Tour de Romandie. This Wednesday he tried to attack near the end of the second stage.

But in his head, the Moldovan is resigned to being a simple domestique at the service of his leaders.

NO PROBLEMS WITH AG2R-LA MONDIALE

Alexandr Pliuschin turned pro in 2008 with the AG2R-La Mondiale team. Vincent Lavenu, manager of the french team, felt he had achieved quite a coupby signing the Moldovan.

The young man made himself know by winning the junior Classique des Alpes in 2005. Despite two crashes, he took the win at the summit of the Col du Granier.

After two years at at Aigle, Switzerland, the Junior World Championships TT runner-up chose, in late 2006, to joing Chambéry Cyclisme, the Continental feeder team of AG2R.

With AG2R's feeder team, he confirmed his immense potential by taking the Ronde van Vlaanderen espoirs.

He wouldn't stay at Chambéry for a second year. AG2R-La Mondiale didn't waste time in adding him to their pro ranks, as he signed a 2 year contract in June.
At 21 years of age, Alexandr Pliuschin debuted with the pros.

Despite a 10th plae at the Ster Elektrotoer and a national title, his 2008 season was quite discrete.
"I broke my collarbone". I restarted racing, but it was hard. Like something was broken inside my head.

His second season was once again a discrete one.

"The problem was with me, it wasn't with Vincent Lavenu, who is a superb manager. I don't have any problems with him"





I AM CLEAN

Having gone to Katusha this winter, he hopes to restart his career with [Katusha team boss and former classics superstar] Andrei Tchmil, who he's known since his teenage years.

"I thought a change of environment, from a french to a russian one, would change something, but it wasn't the case", he laments.

With the russian team, Alexandr Pliuschin is at the service of his teammates. Only.

"I don't get to ride for myself, I'm here to help my leaders, that's all. Hopefully I can achieve some small results, but I no longer have the motivation to do even top 5s. I desired to be a champion and nothing less. That's surely over."

But Alexandr Pliuschin continues to train as best he can. Despite his efforts, he believes he's made little progress.
"I want to do better, but I see that I can not. I'm clean. I don't want to take stuff [performance-enhancing drugs]. I prefer to help my teammates and know that I do all this naturally" confides Pliuschin who benefits from a good reputation in this regard.



TURNED PRO TOO EARLY

Alexandr Pliuschin can't imagine having a long career. At the end of the season he'll reassess his situation-

He can see himself racing another year or two. Barely more than that. How has this rider with such large potential arrived at this point?

Going pro with only 2 espoir years in his legs was, according to him, an eror.

"I turned pro too soon. That was my biggest mistake. In hindsigt, I should've turned pro in 2010. I think I could've done well. It's better to know how to be patient, even if your dream is to turn pro."

After catching the eye of the biggest professional teams, such as T-Mobile, Alexandr Pliuschin has to settle for being an anonymous member of the pro peloton.

A situation that's quite onnel. "Even when you're one of the best juniors and espoirs, it's hard to jump right into the pros.

I dreamed of being among the best one day, but it's not possible. It won't happen. That's just how it goes. I could do something more [needle-to-arm gesture], but I don't want to "slip".

Edited by issoisso on 30-04-2010 12:14
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hondo
hellboy wrote:
hondo wrote:
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
I thought this thread was "News in April" and not "Lance Bashing". Not trying to defend Lance but this is getting boring. It is the same conversation that has been going on for like 5-10 years.


Those who bash Armstrong are just jealous of his great success in life.


Yeah, i envy him a lot of things,especially being total asshole


He is a 7-time Tour de France winner, what are you?

https://www.youtub...yUP5oxKezc
 
roturn
Unfortunately this is the truth. One reason why a lot of young riders don`t think a long time to take something. It`s still the same what others said in the 90`s. You have to dope otherwise you are maximum a average helper, even if you are one of the greatest talents.
 
dwayo
one of the saddest interviews i've read in a while, nothing worse than realising that you're not going to be as good as you always thought you would be. at least he hasn't chosen to get there illegally, or so he says anyway.
 
hondo
Deadpool wrote:
hondo wrote:
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
I thought this thread was "News in April" and not "Lance Bashing". Not trying to defend Lance but this is getting boring. It is the same conversation that has been going on for like 5-10 years.


Those who bash Armstrong are just jealous of his great success in life.




 
jack888
oh well, being a helper is still a pretty sweet job :lol: .
 
jack888
Lance is a king? All you can learn from him is that by cheating anyone can become a legend at a sport.
 
issoisso
jack888 wrote:
Lance is a king? All you can learn from him is that by cheating anyone can become a legend at a sport.


Now, now, that's not fair. There are plenty who are also cheating and not getting anywhere. Lance is supremely talented.
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jack888
issoisso wrote:
jack888 wrote:
Lance is a king? All you can learn from him is that by cheating anyone can become a legend at a sport.


Now, now, that's not fair. There are plenty who are also cheating and not getting anywhere. Lance is supremely talented.


Sorry, i was going to take it back. I guess we can still learn that lying about cheating is the right thing to do.
 
roturn
Of course he is talented. There is no doubt. Probably at least the top 20 of Tour de France are doped and the most talented will finish Top3 with the same stuff like Contador, Evans, Schleck, Armstrong...
Some medicine people said Ullrich was the most talented they have ever seen, that without anyone doping he would have beaten Armstrong every year. But he was not professional enough like Armstrong and had to many kilos after winter. Question of diszipline.
 
Waghlon
hondo wrote:
He is a 7-time Tour de France winner, what are you?


Im not some blind fanboy who defends his icon on a god damn forum using no proof and only personal attacks.


Also, Pliuschin makes me sad for some reason...
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ABridgeTooFar
Waghlon wrote:
[quote]hondo wrote:
He is a 7-time Tour de France winner, what are you?


Im not some blind fanboy who defends his icon on a god damn forum using no proof and only personal attacks.
quote]

The same can be said about some that are attacking him. Can we just move on to the next topic and end this conversation?
 
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