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| Waghlon |
Posted on 24-09-2009 17:25
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markene2 wrote:
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And Vino 8th. Impresive
Well, Impressive is 1 word for it ... not the one Id use.
Jerk 
Nah, i think it starts with c and ends with ockface...
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 24-09-2009 17:40
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aavf wrote:
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I'm going to stop watching worlds TT's until Cancellara retires, whats the use, unless a disaster happens we all know the outcome.
He's a monster.
Contador... Tour... Sadly, we must enjoy the fight between the others.
EDIT: Cav in sprints, you get few races to watch...
Contador tour TT win was cosmetic mistake..Contador lost a much on every section..and took all that back and even a little more at the climb.
Still he is not even close to Cancellara in TT
Edited by Guido Mukk on 24-09-2009 17:45
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| manindemaan |
Posted on 24-09-2009 18:07
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great job by a german journal (i.e. it's online version), Der Spiegel, on the worlds itt:
Tony Martin sicherte sich den dritten Platz bei der Straßenrad-WM in der Schweiz - an Lokalmatador Fabian Contador kam er allerdings nicht vorbei
(Tony Martin secured the third place in the street-wc in switzerland - however, he couldn't pass local hero Fabian Contador.) |
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| ruben |
Posted on 24-09-2009 18:10
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Guido Mukk wrote:
aavf wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
I'm going to stop watching worlds TT's until Cancellara retires, whats the use, unless a disaster happens we all know the outcome.
He's a monster.
Contador... Tour... Sadly, we must enjoy the fight between the others.
EDIT: Cav in sprints, you get few races to watch...
Contador tour TT win was cosmetic mistake..Contador lost a much on every section..and took all that back and even a little more at the climb.
Still he is not even close to Cancellara in TT
This is not true. Contador won time on the flat sections as well. It was only in the final downhill to the finish that Cancellara won ridicolously lot time back...
On the climb AND the flat Contador won time on Cance that TT. |
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| hakab |
Posted on 24-09-2009 18:12
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Hmm, if I remember correctly Contador had a strong headwind that day. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 24-09-2009 18:13
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Wiggins says he considers Martin the silver medalist and that he's angry with Larsson for taking the slipstream advantage.
He also says he considered sitting up as he would have found it very difficult to accept a Bronze medal with the slipstream benefit.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 24-09-2009 18:21
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ruben wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
aavf wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
I'm going to stop watching worlds TT's until Cancellara retires, whats the use, unless a disaster happens we all know the outcome.
He's a monster.
Contador... Tour... Sadly, we must enjoy the fight between the others.
EDIT: Cav in sprints, you get few races to watch...
Contador tour TT win was cosmetic mistake..Contador lost a much on every section..and took all that back and even a little more at the climb.
Still he is not even close to Cancellara in TT
This is not true. Contador won time on the flat sections as well. It was only in the final downhill to the finish that Cancellara won ridicolously lot time back...
On the climb AND the flat Contador won time on Cance that TT.
Contador won time at the first check and lost time between the first and second. The won major time on the climb, and as with every time trial he does, faded badly at the end.
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| raar1991 |
Posted on 24-09-2009 18:26
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Contador rides fast at the start while Cance saves energy for the end, that's why Conta got advantage on the flat |
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| davey90 |
Posted on 24-09-2009 18:40
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raar1991 wrote:
Contador rides fast at the start while Cance saves energy for the end, that's why Conta got advantage on the flat A perfect example of this was the Pekin TT last year, in the first intermediate point Contador was 1st but he ended up finishing 4th. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 24-09-2009 18:42
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Perfect example indeed. If I recall correctly he was 1st at the 1st check, 2nd at the 2nd, 3rd at the 3rd and 4th by the end
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 24-09-2009 18:45
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Nice ride by Zirbel. His stats should be updated in the Man game methinks
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| t-baum |
Posted on 24-09-2009 18:48
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No not all the big boys were there, BUT zirbel can be considered a damn good TTist in my mind.
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"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race." |
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| Inferio |
Posted on 24-09-2009 19:41
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How the hell did there get two riders from Saint Kitts and Nevis? 
1. CANCELLARA Fabian 57'55"
64. POP Gabriel Sorin +12'55"
65. DOUGLAS Reggie +20'32"
66. WEEKES James +22'38"
They are the last two....the 64th rider is from Romania, I wanted to show how much they lost to last rider from 'normal' cycling country And...the really don't look like cyclists https://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/...derid=6270 |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 24-09-2009 19:45
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It's a good thing that they got to be in the WC. I suppose that it will mean a little boost to the antillean cycling. |
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| Inferio |
Posted on 24-09-2009 19:48
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kumazan wrote:
It's a good thing that they got to be in the WC. I suppose that it will mean a little boost to the antillean cycling.
But why 2? Nor Czech Republic has here two riders |
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 24-09-2009 19:51
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I'm never one of these guys who use to throw doping accusations all the way around. Not that a I think that cycling is clean, of course, but I prefer to focus on cycling itself. However, a lot of guys are stating that Cancellara is doping due to his huge advantage at today's TT. Not wanting to enter into an useless debate kind of "x is doped because he beated my favorite guy", or some nacionalist discussion, is there someone here who can do a calculation about Cancellaras performance and compare it to theoretical human limits?
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 24-09-2009 19:54
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Ildabaoth wrote:
I'm never one of these guys who use to throw doping accusations all the way around. Not that a I think that cycling is clean, of course, but I prefer to focus on cycling itself. However, a lot of guys are stating that Cancellara is doping due to his huge advantage at today's TT. Not wanting to enter into an useless debate kind of "x is doped because he beated my favorite guy", or some nacionalist discussion, is there someone here who can do a calculation about Cancellaras performance and compare it to theoretical human limits?
It's almost impossible without having the data from his SRM, since unlike when climbing, the wind resistance is significantly different from rider to rider.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 24-09-2009 19:58
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Inferio wrote:
kumazan wrote:
It's a good thing that they got to be in the WC. I suppose that it will mean a little boost to the antillean cycling.
But why 2? Nor Czech Republic has here two riders
I have absolutely no idea, sincerely. But it's a good experience for them  |
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| aavf |
Posted on 24-09-2009 20:07
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aavf wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
I'm going to stop watching worlds TT's until Cancellara retires, whats the use, unless a disaster happens we all know the outcome.
He's a monster.
Contador... Tour... Sadly, we must enjoy the fight between the others.
EDIT: Cav in sprints, you get few races to watch...
I was referring to Contador domination in Tour GC like Cav in sprints, Cance in TTs. In a TT like today Cance would put a minute to Contador. |
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| ember |
Posted on 24-09-2009 20:08
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issoisso wrote:
ruben wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
aavf wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
I'm going to stop watching worlds TT's until Cancellara retires, whats the use, unless a disaster happens we all know the outcome.
He's a monster.
Contador... Tour... Sadly, we must enjoy the fight between the others.
EDIT: Cav in sprints, you get few races to watch...
Contador tour TT win was cosmetic mistake..Contador lost a much on every section..and took all that back and even a little more at the climb.
Still he is not even close to Cancellara in TT
This is not true. Contador won time on the flat sections as well. It was only in the final downhill to the finish that Cancellara won ridicolously lot time back...
On the climb AND the flat Contador won time on Cance that TT.
Contador won time at the first check and lost time between the first and second. The won major time on the climb, and as with every time trial he does, faded badly at the end.
If my memory is corect it wasn't Contador that faded badly, it was Cancellara going insane fast on the downhill and the last flat kilometres (+ heavy headwind that appeared for the last 5-15 riders on the last flat part). Because Contador did nearly not loose any time on anyone else except of Cancellara that gained a huge amount of time on everyone.
But that's my memory
EDIT: And after searching a bit, I found this, which actually shows that Contador was fastest of the top 6 in the GC on both the downhill and the flat part. It also shows that it was only Cancellara that had an insane speed in the last 12.5 kilometres compared to the others.
https://www.sports...lysis.html
It was pretty interesting to read.
Edited by ember on 24-09-2009 20:29
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