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allez21
btw, soler is way still in it. the results on velonews say he only lost three seconds on the stage... it seems as if the organizers really want a close GC for the first 3 stages
 
Il Grillo
Nah, Soler got his 3 Minutes. According to the results on the official website Wink

171. SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio 51 BARLOWORLD 4h 00' 39" + 03' 04"
Edited by Il Grillo on 05-07-2008 18:12
 
issoisso
Moreau also lost 37 seconds
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doddy13
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SportingNonsense
I was oh so close with my Kirchen stage prediction. And 11th for Millar!!! Wow. If only Valverde hadnt gained a second, Millar would have been very well placed to go for Yellow. If he is in good form though, maybe he could take it in the TT - although that would involve losing less than 6 seconds on Cancellara.
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KurtinSC
Odd stage.

Pretty much everyone was thinking it would be a sprint stage... and Friere finishes 9th? Hushovd 15th. Zabel 22nd?


Only a couple of other sprinters in the top 50.

Odd to see a stage so badly estimated.
 
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SportingNonsense
I dont know why people thought it would be a sprint stage, a look at the profile clearly shows that it wouldnt be. And what makes you think that 'pretty much everyone' thought it would be a sprint? Maybe you mean, people who dont know a lot about cycling and think that if theres no mountains, it must go down to a sprint.

The likes of McEwen and Cavendish both said they would not have a chance today.
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popkorn
All the Eurosport experts thought a sprinter would win it Wink
 
issoisso
Zimao91 wrote:
All the Eurosport experts thought a sprinter would win it Wink


sadly, eurosport has a tendency to only hire people who know nothing of the sport but believe they are endowed with infinite knowledge of it.
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KurtinSC
SportingNonsense wrote:
I dont know why people thought it would be a sprint stage, a look at the profile clearly shows that it wouldnt be. And what makes you think that 'pretty much everyone' thought it would be a sprint? Maybe you mean, people who dont know a lot about cycling and think that if theres no mountains, it must go down to a sprint.

The likes of McEwen and Cavendish both said they would not have a chance today.


Well, McEwen and Cavendish are both pretty much "flat" sprinters. Heck, anything more than a speed bump seems to throw Cav off his sprint.

But everything I saw seemed to predict a sprint amongst the more "hill capable" sprinters like Hushovd, Friere, and Zabel, with a chance of a good sprinting hill rider like Kirchen, Valverde or Cunego taking it.

I didn't see anyone predicting a top 10 with riders like Evans, Pereiro or Frank Schleck in the running. The finish list looked more like something you'd see in a hilly classic.

Perhaps others were predicting that... I didn't see it though.
 
Smoothie
issoisso wrote:
Zimao91 wrote:
All the Eurosport experts thought a sprinter would win it Wink


sadly, eurosport has a tendency to only hire people who know nothing of the sport but believe they are endowed with infinite knowledge of it.


Thats not true on the British front. We have an Ex-Pro Sean kelly hes always on the ball. David harmon is great at predicting reults and he always picks an outsider.

The only stupid person that British Eurosport have is Emma Davis, she really doesnt have a clue, even though shes a pro Women :/
 
doddy13
well the studio were not much better, they went for Sprinters. I knew it would be a hill rider.
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Smoothie
Duffield went for Kirchen and he wasnt to far off...
 
doddy13
Roche went for Cav though. But then again Roche normally does good predictions.
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Smoothie
I dont think Roche knew the course very well today...
 
doddy13
clearly not, duffers does because he does Plouay coverage.

I can't wait to see his predictions when we get out of familliar territory.
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Smoothie
Hes think Valverde will abandon because he won todays stage...
 
Rin
issoisso wrote:
Zimao91 wrote:
All the Eurosport experts thought a sprinter would win it Wink


sadly, eurosport has a tendency to only hire people who know nothing of the sport but believe they are endowed with infinite knowledge of it.


I live in Germany and Eurosport is so much better then the german TV stations ARD and ZDF

At ARD and ZDF :

Pre-Stage :

Doping!!! (they just bought Jaksche to tell something about Doping , last year (after the Landis 2006 Tour) they have done the same , only Doping!!! I would say 25%Tour/75% Doping at ARD and ZDF (And therefore , the germans pay for that...)

At the Stage :

Boring like hell , I would wonder if someone wouldn´t sleep in with the commentaries (I haven´t heard of them before , but they switched after 2004 the Commentaries at ARD because a very incompetent commentary (before the Mountain Time Trial to the L´Alp d´Huez) wondered why Voigt fell back to the group with Ullrich , Basso and the others , he shouted at him "What are you doing!?!?" and some other stupid things)

At Eurosport :

Pre-Stage :

Everything you would like to hear , rider interviews , stage commentaries (what could be the breakpoint and so on) also you have seen a video of 1997 stage win of Erik Zabel as he won the Stage to Plumelec

At the Stage :

Competence also they are shaking that a little bit of (to not sleep in) with some jokes and so on , but also you hear somethings about doping but not more then 5 Minutes in a whole stage , also there are 3 commentaries , 1 could be boring , 2 also but 3 are very good

WoW , Valverde attacked at the lower step of that Hill but how fast he get at Kirchen , just impressive

Could be the beginning of a winner at the Tour...

I think that Valverde could manage tomorrow a 2nd win... But also Freire , Pozzato , Zabel and Ciolek could have a look at the stage tomorrow (maybe Wegmann too)
Edited by Rin on 05-07-2008 22:00
 
Hasselinhoo
Damn i was sure that kirchen will win Sad,btw very bad for soler ...
 
thex
i'm also from germany and think the same as rin about german tv stationsRolling Eyes
i couldn't watch today but who has eurosport as third commentator?
 
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