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| Aquarius |
Posted on 09-09-2013 21:50
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golance123 wrote:
I was struggling with inflammation and pain in my Achilles last week in training leading up to my first race of the collegiate cross country season. However, ice and electric stimulation therapy helped reduce the pain and inflammation for the race on Saturday. I set a new 8K PR of 30:06! I'm very happy with the result, as I have a lot of room for improvement with my form. Hoping to be well into the 29's by the end of the season!
Are you already running in the fields for cross-country or was that on the road ?
That's a good time whatsoever, although it won't win you races.
8 km races are very unusual around here (it's either 5 or 10, or any random number with decimals in between). I assume it was actually a 5 miles one ? |
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Posted on 11-09-2013 00:37
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Aquarius wrote:
golance123 wrote:
I was struggling with inflammation and pain in my Achilles last week in training leading up to my first race of the collegiate cross country season. However, ice and electric stimulation therapy helped reduce the pain and inflammation for the race on Saturday. I set a new 8K PR of 30:06! I'm very happy with the result, as I have a lot of room for improvement with my form. Hoping to be well into the 29's by the end of the season!
Are you already running in the fields for cross-country or was that on the road ?
That's a good time whatsoever, although it won't win you races.
8 km races are very unusual around here (it's either 5 or 10, or any random number with decimals in between). I assume it was actually a 5 miles one ?
Aquarius, I do the majority of my pre-season base training on the road, which may have had something to do with the injury. All of the races are about 99% grass, and we train on grass a couple times a week. I run cross country at the NCAA Division III level, where 8K is the standard distance. That was a solid time for me, but you are certainly right about not winning with that time  At big races it takes a 25 to win, so I'm about the average for the field. |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 10-10-2013 13:43
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Winter's coming so my season is over. This is the first time ever that I've been injury free (got back to training in April/May) and ended the year with two personal bests; 18.21.12 at the 5000m and 5.37.96 at 1 mile. I might have gotten below 5.30 had I did the mile-attempt two months earlier seeing as how I was on a downward spiral 
Now I'll relax a bit on the running at head into the gym to lift some weights during the winter. The plan is weight-traning monday, wednesday and friday and cardio on tuesday and thursday (possibl saturday too, depens on how I feel). Most the traning will be done indoors in the treadmill, but I'll be doing as many cardio sessions outside as possible.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 11-10-2013 20:59
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Just wondering, does anyone have any experience with the Adizero Adios? I need a new pair and tried them on, they seemed pretty good.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 11-10-2013 21:11
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I have the Aegis, and another pair that's as light as the Adios, but not sure what model it is any more. 220 g is really light, they're quite rough on hard surfaces. They're fine for track training or running on the beach though. The Adios soles looks more like the Aegis though than my other pair, so it might be more comfortable.
I wouldn't use something so light to run regularly on the road for example.
I use Resp Cushion these days, nothing to use in competition though, way too heavy. |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 11-10-2013 21:37
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My wornout pair was actually the Aegis.
I've been using the Puma Faas 300 for runs upto 22km and I've felt fine so the cushoning won't be a problem, I think. I'm a quite light weight runner (51kg) and I have a decent step.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 12-11-2013 22:18
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It feels pretty good to have taken a break from running for a while and focused more on strenght training.
I was sort of worn out after when the autumn came so I think I'll keep the running at a bare minimum until the new year and then decide if I want to train for a new season or continue on with the weigh traning.
Feels weird contemplaiting not being a "runner" anymore... 
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| miggi133 |
Posted on 21-11-2013 21:15
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Guess what! Its that time of the year again, where I go completely mental and decide to run a 1-Mile leg in the Intervarsity Road Relay Competition!
As you may or may not remember, I had a very poor outing last year, being the very last runner on the course. What made it even worse was that I was training hard for 100 & 200m last year, so it wasnt an ideal setup to begin with (in fairness, I just did it for the craic).
Well this year it looks a bit different! Im still only doing it for the craic, but I am a lot better prepared for it. At least I think so. First of all, I am in the shape of my life (well, I should be, I am doing between 6-7 training sessions a week, taking weekends off). One of those sessions is a weekly 3-Mile run to get them Aerobic levels up! And to put the icing on the cake, I changed events from 100&200m sprints to 200 & 400m, upon a suggestion from Paul Opperman, A former Olympian and member of the 4x400m relay team in Sydney (that was 2000, for the younger generation amongst you)!
Sooo, I guess I can vastly improve on my poor showing from last year (5.57)...
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 24-11-2013 13:04
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For 400m your VO2 max will play an important part in your PB whereas it was negligible, although it helps recovering between heats, in 200m and shorter.
Maybe you should try to "guess" what will be your maximal potential performance and stick to that pace, which would prevent you from blowing up or accelerating too late.
On Strava.com (you people might know the cyclists among us on PCM.daily have a club there) there was a challenge ending today, named Any Way 10k. Guess what it is or was about : running 10 k as fast as possible.
I wasn't sure I could handle it, since after almost getting rid of my strained groin, my adductors decided to strike me again (it"s a running joke, pun intented).
So I've tried something called a shorty strap, it's tights with straps that are supposed to make up for the adductors work. I didn't really feel a difference while running.
4k warm up, 10k on the track, 4k on my way back.
Clearly I'm not fit yet, but I can more or less walk, and I didn't face any major pain.
The 10k went well, the track is not that fast, and despite my double knots I had to stop to tie my shoe laces. Twice. Yet my moving time was 38'26, whereas the total time for 10k was 39'35.
That's better than my official PB, and even if it's nothing that good, it's not worrying me too much, conditions were far from ideal, I trained on the bike yesterday, I didn't have the proper meal before starting, etc. And my training hasn't really been focused on threshold pace lately, so it's rather reassuring. 
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| miggi133 |
Posted on 25-11-2013 00:49
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Well, I followed the pack for the first quater mile and then let myself fall back a bit to running my own pace and I kicked with a little over 500m to go and "sprinted" to the finish line. Well, it was more like the speed I am doing in a speed endurance session (f.e 3x300 + 2x200m)... I got a fairly decent time though with 5.12 for the mile. Feels good to lower a PB by 45 seconds, not gonna lie!
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 25-11-2013 03:20
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I am extremely unactive on the forums lately, but seeing this thread I just wanted to stop by and say I ran 19:49 on a 5 km road race in the beginning of this month, a huge improvement of my previous personal best (21:12 in March this year). I'm really happy with it, because my 800 m times were always much faster than my 5 km, but now they are somewhat comparable (relatively speaking, because obviously I run 800 m at a much higher speed, 2:16).
My goal for this winter was 20:00, and I already broke it, so my new goal is 19:00. Gonna be difficult, but challange accepted
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 05-12-2013 21:40
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Not exactly "my" running, but I'm reading a book by Veronique Billat, a reputed French researcher and trainer, working with endurance runners from Europe and Kenya.
It was quite expensive for the number of pages and the unacceptable number of typos, but nonetheless it's well worth a read.
That's more or less reaching the borders of my competences in biology (my A level in sciences was more than a dozen of years ago, now that I think about it), but it's well worth a read.
Name of the book is something that'd translate as "VO2 max time tried".
I'm still in the more abstract (biological) parts, after one that was more about how the concept of VO2max emerged in History.
Later on there'll be training plans. To make a long story short, and if I got it right, she insists on the use of anaerobic resources to improve endurance performances. They regenerate quick enough to be used several time during any mid or long distance run. But they're used through fast twitching muscular fibres, hence the need 1) to work on strength (to develop those fibres efficiency) even for endurance athletes 2) to change pace frequently while running to use different metabolisms and let others regenerate during that time.
If 1) makes sense although in my experience endurance athletes generally work on their core more than on pure strength, 2) is much more odd. I know the physics and air resistance is very different between both sports, but in cycling for, say, a time trial, the power output should be as linear as possible to get the maximal performance. Apparently in running it'd be the opposite ? That's quite odd, but I need to read more.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 05-12-2013 22:02
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Is that the difference between the respiratory and the muscular system though?
In that giving your muscles a rest allows them to recover, whereas a rest for your lungs makes little to know difference.
Anecdotally, I notice I can climb faster if I alternate between sitting and standing, as it uses slightly different muscles.
So if your muscles are a limiting factor in running, then slowing up briefly and giving them a chance to clear the lactic acid could help?
That does seem to contradict Ross Tucker's stuff on marathon pacing though.
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| golance123 |
Posted on 18-12-2013 19:53
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In early November, I finished 25th place at our conference championships in cross country. Unfortunately I missed making the all-conference team by just 4 places (only 19 seconds ahead). I have taken 6 weeks off from running to recover, and I have spent much of that time in the weight room to improve muscle strength. I resumed easy running this week, and I am targeting a marathon at the end of May as part of my preparation for my 10th and final cross country season next fall! |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 15-01-2014 17:14
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Well, I'l be back in training now in just a matter of days, I think. We've still got about 4 more months of winter so if I can use that period to gt a good foundation going I might be looking at doing a sub-18 5k.
Last year I only trained onsistantly from early May and by early August (I think) I ran 5000m in 18.21.12, so if I can get a 4-5 month headstart this might be a good year for me.
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| Matthew21rp |
Posted on 15-01-2014 17:39
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cactus-jack wrote:
Well, I'l be back in training now in just a matter of days, I think. We've still got about 4 more months of winter so if I can use that period to gt a good foundation going I might be looking at doing a sub-18 5k.
Last year I only trained onsistantly from early May and by early August (I think) I ran 5000m in 18.21.12, so if I can get a 4-5 month headstart this might be a good year for me.
Good Luck
I used to run and my best 5k time was about 19 mins. I gave up though when I had problems with my knees.
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 15-01-2014 17:51
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Running on snow is great for my knees. I've got a bit of a "click" when I bend my left knee, but I don't feel a thing so I guess it'l be allright.
Power through; when you don't have time to dick around.
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| Matthew21rp |
Posted on 15-01-2014 17:55
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cactus-jack wrote:
Running on snow is great for my knees. I've got a bit of a "click" when I bend my left knee, but I don't feel a thing so I guess it'l be allright
Unfortunately it doesn't snow enough for me to run on snow
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 15-01-2014 18:07
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We've got snow for roughly 5-6, maybe 7 months so I've got more than enough
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 20-01-2014 20:15
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Blame me : I've been totally off running since early December. Struggling with that adductor again. I had managed to run a 10 k late November in the low 38:00, off competition.
Once again, since I couldn't run I cycled. Not much as I'd have wanted to, but a decent lot nonetheless. My right knee got painful, and the adductor, despite not running, was still hurting me. The osteopath is clueless, my doctor told me to muscle my oblique abdominals, and to not run before mid-March, at best. That's a long time, but given the absence of evolution it seemed like it was coming too quickly.
The knee issue while cycling bothered me. I checked the cleats. Once more. The right cleat had moved a little, twisting my foot a little (let's say 3° or so to give an idea) and the whole leg as well. I fixed it last Saturday. No more adductor pain since then.
It's probably too recent for me to run again one of these days, but by this weekend I might give it a try.
What an idiot, really, it's always the same scheme. Little injury while running, less running and more cycling, worsening injury, no more running.
It must be said my saddle had pivoted on the right as well, making my pelvis no good.
Next time I complain I'm injured for no reason, insult me if I've not checked the whole bike thing before complaining. |
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