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| Waghlon |
Posted on 06-05-2010 16:31
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Normally i would stay up for an election. Any election. But i have to get up a 6 so yeah...
THE THOMAS VOECKLER PROPHET OF PCM DAILY
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| Crommy |
Posted on 06-05-2010 16:38
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doddy13 wrote:
staying up for an election?
result: hung parliment.
Go to bed guys
But who's going to get the biggest share of seats? How much power will the Lib Dems get? Any deals this early on? How many seats will parties like the SNP, Plaid Cymru and UKIP get? Will Ed Balls suffer a 'Portillo' moment? Will the BNP get a seat?
Yes, it is very likely to be a hung parliament, but that makes it, if anything, even more interesting...
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 06-05-2010 16:40
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well, if we want to cut sleeze out of government, a hung parliment will be bad.
I DON'T WANT SECRET DEALS BETWEEN PARTIES
(I believe that was also said on question time last night)
Overall majority or we try again i say.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 06-05-2010 16:43
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I truly dont get the anti-hung parliament feelings, which has been fueled greatly by the Tories and their fear of it.
In the devolved elements of Wales and Scotland, theres is no majority, and they have been able to work well in a coalition.
It also forces the parties to work together, and this could prove beneficial currently.
A majority for any party would be a nightmare, in my opinion.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 06-05-2010 16:46
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doddy13 wrote:
well, if we want to cut sleeze out of government, a hung parliment will be bad.
I DON'T WANT SECRET DEALS BETWEEN PARTIES
(I believe that was also said on question time last night)
Overall majority or we try again i say.
First, a rant: That first time voters question time is in no way shape or form question time. Dermot O'Leary is shocking. There's no substitute for David Dimbleby, and if there is, it is no way O'Leary.
Second: the deals are unlikely to be secret. The parties will get crucified if there is. They'll be up front with the terms of it. Also, given the Lib Dems have said they'll support the party with the most votes, we' should see them follow through on this.
Third: A balanced parliament will also push through electoral reform (as advocated by Labour and Lib Dems) and ministers expenses reform (as advocated by Lib Dems). No one party will have enough seats to block reform.
Fourth: Sleaze will always be in UK politics. There's a hell of a lot more going on than is reported, and the only way we are to get rid of sleaze is to be lucky enough to have MPs who are honest... A hung parliament will in no way shape or form affect what happens to sleaze in politics
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| Crommy |
Posted on 06-05-2010 16:48
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SportingNonsense wrote:
I truly dont get the anti-hung parliament feelings, which has been fueled greatly by the Tories and their fear of it.
In the devolved elements of Wales and Scotland, theres is no majority, and they have been able to work well in a coalition.
It also forces the parties to work together, and this could prove beneficial currently.
A majority for any party would be a nightmare, in my opinion.
It also works very well in Germany, which is a better comparison (in terms of size). However, it all relies on the leaders actually working together, which is where we get stuck. Cameron and Brown will never work together, George Osborne hates Alistair Darling with a passion that's holy, Clegg has hinted he won't work with Brown.
But we can hope.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 06-05-2010 16:49
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Crommy wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
So, I guess it's still most likely that the Lib Dems and Labour form a coalition, making Clegg the PM (unless Labour gets more votes than Lib Dem).
There's a saying i heard.
Labour hate Conservative
Conservative hate labour.
However, both hate Liberal Democrats.
Anway, Clegg is one of those guys I also don't trust.
For me - the answer is Gordon Brown. I can tell you why, but i'd rather not.
Please do...
I'll reiterate - please, please explain.
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| lagetcher |
Posted on 06-05-2010 16:50
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Crommy wrote:
lagetcher wrote:
I plan to not go to bed to night, and just watch the results trickle on the BBC, but no doubt I'll fall asleep at some point. It sounds ridiculous, but then again, it only comes up once every five years...unless it's a hung parliament, in which case we might have another one soon...which would mean double the fun!
Take a nap beforehand at about 7, then wake up when the first result is in at 11 
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Posted on 06-05-2010 16:51
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lagetcher wrote:
Crommy wrote:
lagetcher wrote:
I plan to not go to bed to night, and just watch the results trickle on the BBC, but no doubt I'll fall asleep at some point. It sounds ridiculous, but then again, it only comes up once every five years...unless it's a hung parliament, in which case we might have another one soon...which would mean double the fun!
Take a nap beforehand at about 7, then wake up when the first result is in at 11
Good idea. I'd consider doing that, but I've got work to do
I'm doing work during the coverage - believe me, there will be big gaps in between anything interesting...
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Posted on 06-05-2010 17:00
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Crommy wrote:
lagetcher wrote:
Crommy wrote:
lagetcher wrote:
I plan to not go to bed to night, and just watch the results trickle on the BBC, but no doubt I'll fall asleep at some point. It sounds ridiculous, but then again, it only comes up once every five years...unless it's a hung parliament, in which case we might have another one soon...which would mean double the fun!
Take a nap beforehand at about 7, then wake up when the first result is in at 11
Good idea. I'd consider doing that, but I've got work to do
I'm doing work during the coverage - believe me, there will be big gaps in between anything interesting...
Sounds like a good plan actually.
I wonder if Sunderland south will be the first to announce the results for the 5th consecutive election. I know its boundaries have changed, but apparently they're still confident. |
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Posted on 06-05-2010 17:03
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lagetcher wrote:
Crommy wrote:
lagetcher wrote:
Crommy wrote:
lagetcher wrote:
I plan to not go to bed to night, and just watch the results trickle on the BBC, but no doubt I'll fall asleep at some point. It sounds ridiculous, but then again, it only comes up once every five years...unless it's a hung parliament, in which case we might have another one soon...which would mean double the fun!
Take a nap beforehand at about 7, then wake up when the first result is in at 11
Good idea. I'd consider doing that, but I've got work to do
I'm doing work during the coverage - believe me, there will be big gaps in between anything interesting...
Sounds like a good plan actually.
I wonder if Sunderland south will be the first to announce the results for the 5th consecutive election. I know its boundaries have changed, but apparently they're still confident.
They think they can declare at 10:45pm.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 06-05-2010 17:04
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A good constituency to look at is Basildon, Essex. Since it was craeted in 1974, whichever way that seats gone, so has the general election.
Given the likelihood of the hung parliament though, it'll probably only indicated who's going to get the most seats...
EDIT: They think they can declare at 10:45pm .
It'll be 11 at the latest - if not Sunderland, then somewhere else will get the first result announced by 11
EDIT2: Nigel Farage involved in plane crash, but survives. Hopefully a bad omen for the UKIP party at this electon
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Posted on 06-05-2010 17:10
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The Chippenham constituency should be pretty interesting. It's newly formed, partly from my one (North Wilts) and should be close between the Lib Dems and Tories. Well, it's interesting for me anyway 
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Posted on 06-05-2010 17:17
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Crommy wrote:
EDIT2: Nigel Farage involved in plane crash, but survives. Hopefully a bad omen for the UKIP party at this electon
He's unable to vote then aswell, being hospitalised, which is a shame for him as he is UKIPs best chance - going up in the constituency of the Speaker in the commons, who technically has no party, with no Labour or Lib Dem or 'official' Conserbative candidate standings, because the speaker is 'neutral' (Even though he is a Tory))
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Posted on 06-05-2010 17:19
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It crossed my mind that it might be a scheme to get sympathy votes. But then I realised that not even Nigel Farage is that stupid. In my constituency though, I actually hope UKIP do well in my constituency, because then that moron of a Conservative candidate will have a worse chance of getting in. Basically, I can't really see UKIP taking too many votes away from the Lib Dems. |
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Posted on 06-05-2010 17:21
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UKIP will support the Tories in a Hung Parliament though (Another good reason to vote for neither of them)
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 06-05-2010 17:22
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speaking of Morons, our consitiuancies largest town is where I live. Tuesday night there was a hustings in the town hall.
https://adamcroft....-happened/
In case you don't want to read, our local MP left a hustings because she didn't like the fact it was being broadcast on the internet, despite the fact she was told in advance that it would be.
She said she had to attend a another meeting (Yes, outside the consituancies biggest town), yet she was outside smoking for a good 10 minutes).
This is why we need change in our area.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 06-05-2010 18:04
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doddy13 wrote:
speaking of Morons, our consitiuancies largest town is where I live. Tuesday night there was a hustings in the town hall.
https://adamcroft....-happened/
In case you don't want to read, our local MP left a hustings because she didn't like the fact it was being broadcast on the internet, despite the fact she was told in advance that it would be.
She said she had to attend a another meeting (Yes, outside the consituancies biggest town), yet she was outside smoking for a good 10 minutes).
This is why we need change in our area.
Fair point. But I'm going to keep on insisting on a Gordon Brown justification. Because if you can successfully do it, you will be some kind of God
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| Crommy |
Posted on 06-05-2010 18:08
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SportingNonsense wrote:
UKIP will support the Tories in a Hung Parliament though (Another good reason to vote for neither of them)
They'll only support the Tories if the Tories give them some semblance of power, or assurances on certain policies. Otherwise they'll stay alone, not supporting any policies.
Nigel Farage and the other UKIP leaders are only concerned with power, nothing else
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Posted on 06-05-2010 18:20
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Crommy wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
UKIP will support the Tories in a Hung Parliament though (Another good reason to vote for neither of them)
They'll only support the Tories if the Tories give them some semblance of power, or assurances on certain policies. Otherwise they'll stay alone, not supporting any policies.
Nigel Farage and the other UKIP leaders are only concerned with power, nothing else
Maybe, but the UKIP leader did encourage potential UKIP voters to vote Tory in some areas
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