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Le Tour 09: Stage 16 - Martigny - Bourg Saint Maurice
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 21-07-2009 18:46
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CrueTrue wrote:
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seriously, give this guy a medal for trying so hard to be Lantern Rouge.
No, he is trying hard to reach paris, he isn't trying to get last... can't you see?
He IS trying to end last. He said that himself in an interview.
I think he was trying to say that he wants to finish. He doesn't want to be the last in the race. He's just using a (sort of) rhetorical device to say that he wants to finish the race (if that makes any sense). |
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| boork |
Posted on 21-07-2009 18:53
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Or he got a sense of humour and is saying he wants to finish last cause thats what happened a few days and keep on happening. |
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Posted on 21-07-2009 18:55
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boork wrote:
Or he got a sense of humour and is saying he wants to finish last cause thats what happened a few days and keep on happening.
Thats part of what I am saying |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-07-2009 18:56
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Yes, he's trying to actually finish / end the race - but if that can be done while being lanterne rouge, he's extra happy.
Why? As I've said previously, there's money involved. The lanterne rouge is invited to lots of criteriums after the Tour, and you earn a lot of money by that.
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"When I get to Paris, I hope to be last. As the last man, you get a lot of extra attention, and after the Tour, you're invited to criteriums (...) From a money perspetive, it's great"
Danish newspaper called Politiken, interview with Kenny Van Hummel.
Article: https://politiken.dk/sport/cykling/tou...754812.ece
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 21-07-2009 19:11
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Deadpool wrote:
Also, Ruben may have defended Dekker, but he did so when there was very little evidence and all of it was circumstantial. As soon as concrete evidence came out, he changed his views immediately. I'll leave it at that.
How the hell I can avoiding to replay..Hell no.
that is realy something. Yep he changes a view..he closed web site..change name avatar , signature. Why?
If you support one guy..keep it up. Don't be childish and run away. That go's far all ex Basso and Vino fans to.
Ruben english is better then mine..yes I know.
he knows more about cyling then me..yes I know (btw. he's favorite subject)
he makes better stats then me..yeaah probably. So what. There is no need to be cocky.
Edited by Guido Mukk on 21-07-2009 19:17
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| KurtinSC |
Posted on 21-07-2009 19:21
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Also, Ruben may have defended Dekker, but he did so when there was very little evidence and all of it was circumstantial. As soon as concrete evidence came out, he changed his views immediately. I'll leave it at that.
How the hell I can avoiding to replay..Hell no.
that is realy something. Yep he changes a view..he closed web site..change name avatar , signature. Why?
If you support one guy..keep it up. Don't be childish and run away. That go's far all ex Basso and Vino fans to.
Ruben english is better then mine..yes I know.
he knows more about cyling then me..yes I know (btw. he's favorite subject)
he makes better stats then me..yeaah probably. So what. There is no need to be cocky.
I don't think I agree Guido.
If you are a fan of someone and find they are cheating... it's perfectly reasonable to not be a fan any more.
It's not a marriage. You don't swear some kind of oath saying you'll support your favorite rider through good and bad, doping and clean, etc.
If you like a rider for a reason... and the facts about that rider change... why wouldn't you stop supporting them? |
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-07-2009 19:36
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Guido, you are always annoying me to the point of breaking, but this really does it.
You have, and I'm sorry to tell you this, ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
You have NO CLUE of how somebody feels, when he has put 2,5 years of energy and a LOT of time, into a website of seomeone. I did a lot of work for Dekker, we all did, his management, I know these people personally, also did tons of work to get him a new job.
Despite all the rumours against him, not only me, but also his family, friends, management did all the trouble of defending Thomas Dekker and standing behind him. We were always assured by Thomas he was riding clean and all of this were false rumours.
It's much more than being a fan, it was much more personal than that because I WORKED with him for 2,5 years. How can you possible know how I or other guys close to him feel after being cheated in such a way.
You have now idea of the dissapointment and the anger, you have no idea of all the time we spent into something that is now destroyed by the same guy we were doing it for.
You really understand nothing, and for that, you are a piss poor person. Attacking me because we changed our views, after a guy who has been lying to us for 2,5 years. A guy who we defended everywhere, we put our reputation and our credibility on the line for that guy. And what do we get in return???
Really Guido, you have NO CLUE!!!! You should not speak of things you know and understand nothing about.
And it's clear you understand nothing of human relations or emotions. Or what it feels like when you are being lied to.
So SHUT UP! You have no right at all.
Edited by ruben on 21-07-2009 19:37
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-07-2009 19:40
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And with this, it's end of discussion and back on topic. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 21-07-2009 19:53
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Beautiful!
That was I am talking about. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-07-2009 19:54
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Sorry Crue, but if Guido puts me down as a some sort of simple fanboy who dropped his favorite rider after he was found doped, he is sadly mistaken. I had to justify this. He has no clue. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-07-2009 19:55
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Sure, no problem. I didn't delete your post. I'm just saying that it's time to return to the purpose of the thread  |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 21-07-2009 19:57
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Yep everything is ok..we just dont match. If i am correct we started our "hot relationship" about 2,5 maybe even 3 years ago.
Edited by Guido Mukk on 21-07-2009 19:59
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| Dan_Grr |
Posted on 21-07-2009 20:36
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I hope you at least got some money off of Dekker and the work you did for him. You did, right?
Right? |
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| knasen |
Posted on 21-07-2009 20:44
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doddy13 wrote:
@deadpool, i didn't call him a joke.
Knasen did.
I was being serious, he deserves to get on TV after struggling his way through each stage
Yes I did. But if you read what i write. I am very impressed by him. To ride that much by himself shows that he has a good engine. And some more years he will be a groupetto rider. And I think that is little more comfortable. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-07-2009 20:46
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Dan_Grr wrote:
I hope you at least got some money off of Dekker and the work you did for him. You did, right?
Right? No I didn't. We never earned anything with it. TD Magazine was a volunteer project. I was never in for the money from the start.
Can you imagine now? The thing that is stupid is that we haven't heard from Dekker, not did his management, since the day he has been caught.
The money I do earn with websites, is from the other riders, for seg cycling (management of maaskant, langeveld, de maar, duyn, many others amongst previously dekker)
Edited by ruben on 21-07-2009 20:47
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Posted on 21-07-2009 20:55
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After today's stage I'm clueless. Clueless about the remaining two spots on the podium. I ruled out Armstrong yesterday as he looked very Giro-like, but after today I just cannot feel certain that he'd do something spectacular tomorrow or even on the time trial, or Ventoux, who in bleedin' 'ell knows?
Wiggins looked incredible, perfect again today. In my book he's still the only guy who can win this Tour from Contador. Also I'm not in the slightest convinced that Andy will be able to gain any time on him in the mountains. Surely the Petit-Saint-Bornand was a better climb for Wiggins than Andy, but he just looked so cool, and so unimpressed by who he was sitting next to, gave me the chills to be honest. It's the first time he's in this position and this is not some mountain stage in Vuelta a Burgos, this is the frickin Tour de France, and then he is this calm. Unbelievable. I'm full of admiration.
So my podium prediction is:
1. Contador
2. Absolute no clue whatsoever
3. Look above
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| BenBarnes |
Posted on 21-07-2009 21:46
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I'd love to see Wiggins hang tough until the time trial and then do something nuts to make it close. Just for a little drama at least. |
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| Sherpa |
Posted on 21-07-2009 22:36
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ruben wrote:
Lol, van Hummel was at 37 minutes at the final of the last climb, and finished at 34 minutes. That means he descended 3 minutes faster than anyone.
Hushovd the best decender? Cancellara? Nah. It's Van Hummel 
*cough* shortcut *cough* |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 22-07-2009 08:15
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issoisso wrote:
fenian_1234 wrote:
When did he decide this?
Before the season
Thanks.
In just about every preview of the TdF I read, he was mentioned as one of the contenders, so I assumed he was riding.
Never believe anything you read in the English language media about cycling.
Kind of surprised he didn't want to ride the Tour in his snazzy Olympic gear. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-07-2009 08:25
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fenian_1234 wrote:
his snazzy Olympic gear.
Uhm....
There's no olympic champion jersey, snazzy or not.  |
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