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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-04-2009 20:35
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schleck93 wrote:
According to german news agency Thomas Dekker was a client of Stefan Matschinger, just like Michael Boogerd and Michael Rasmussen supposedly was aswell.
*hides from Ruben*
So far I've only seen it on cyclismag and hln.be
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| ruben |
Posted on 19-04-2009 20:39
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Germans.
I don't take them seriously though. How many bullshit have they said already? If we believe German magazines, the whole peloton is doped and should be convicted. I'm tired of Germans. Can't we put those people behind bars? |
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Posted on 19-04-2009 20:42
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Ruben wrote:
Germans.
I don't take them seriously though. How many bullshit have they said already? If we believe German magazines, the whole peloton is doped and should be convicted. I'm tired of Germans. Can't we put those people behind bars?
Name one accusation they made that hasn't later turned out to be at least very likely to be true.
I'd like to see you come up with one, because if there are any, I quite simply don't remember them.
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Posted on 19-04-2009 20:45
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Well according to the Germans, Dekker was a client of Fuentes, and now they claim he was a client of Matschiner.
It's madness, I'm willing to put my hand through the fire, Dekker has not doped in Austria or at Fuentes.
If, and only if, he ever doped, and I can not say with 100% certainty he hasn't, it would have been at Cecchini, but even that, is not likely. |
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Posted on 19-04-2009 20:48
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Ruben wrote:
Well according to the Germans, Dekker was a client of Fuentes
I never heard or read that one
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, and now they claim he was a client of Matschiner.
It's madness, I'm willing to put my hand through the fire, Dekker has not doped in Austria or at Fuentes.
Believe me, we'll hold you to it 
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If, and only if, he ever doped, and I can not say with 100% certainty he hasn't, it would have been at Cecchini, but even that, is not likely.
People's perceptions change. A while ago you'd put your hands in the fire, no doubt about it for your belief that Cecchini's only "help" were training plans. |
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Posted on 19-04-2009 20:48
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issoisso wrote:
schleck93 wrote:
According to german news agency Thomas Dekker was a client of Stefan Matschinger, just like Michael Boogerd and Michael Rasmussen supposedly was aswell.
*hides from Ruben*
So far I've only seen it on cyclismag and hln.be
who broke the original news?
Focus. |
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Posted on 19-04-2009 20:51
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CrueTrue wrote:
issoisso wrote:
schleck93 wrote:
According to german news agency Thomas Dekker was a client of Stefan Matschinger, just like Michael Boogerd and Michael Rasmussen supposedly was aswell.
*hides from Ruben*
So far I've only seen it on cyclismag and hln.be
who broke the original news?
Focus.
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Posted on 19-04-2009 22:22
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Matt Lloyd has cracked vertebrae :\
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Posted on 19-04-2009 23:08
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No news on Focus btw, the other german sources say it comes from Focus. But it turns out, in Focus itself, there is no such message.
And btw, many of the german rumours are NOT true, you say name them? There is too many to name! They make a doping rumour everyday. |
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Posted on 20-04-2009 04:42
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Grajales and Baldwin join Creed, fired by ROck Racing to save some money
https://velonews.com/article/90956/roc...d-grajales
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Posted on 20-04-2009 06:43
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Ruben wrote:
No news on Focus btw, the other german sources say it comes from Focus. But it turns out, in Focus itself, there is no such message.
And btw, many of the german rumours are NOT true, you say name them? There is too many to name! They make a doping rumour everyday.
ok so why don't you just name a couple of them when there are so many false accusations?
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Posted on 20-04-2009 07:03
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YtimK wrote:
Ruben wrote:
No news on Focus btw, the other german sources say it comes from Focus. But it turns out, in Focus itself, there is no such message.
And btw, many of the german rumours are NOT true, you say name them? There is too many to name! They make a doping rumour everyday.
ok so why don't you just name a couple of them when there are so many false accusations?
X2 - Seems you jumped fairly easy across that argument... |
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Posted on 20-04-2009 07:29
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Armstrong will race the Girl after all: https://velonews.c...ong-first.
Armstrong had surgery back in the United States and has already resumed training. He confirmed last week to race officials that he will be at the start of the 2009 Giro d’Italia, which begins May 9 in Venice, Italy. |
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Posted on 20-04-2009 07:45
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Ruben wrote:
No news on Focus btw, the other german sources say it comes from Focus. But it turns out, in Focus itself, there is no such message.
And btw, many of the german rumours are NOT true, you say name them? There is too many to name! They make a doping rumour everyday.
It's in Focus' magazine, not the website.
I like how they started off with way too many riders. They had hoped for a Pro Conti license, had signed a lot of riders, got a Conti license and had to degrade / let go of 1/3 of the team. Now they are firing riders, one by one.
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| Rin |
Posted on 20-04-2009 09:40
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Ruben wrote:
No news on Focus btw, the other german sources say it comes from Focus. But it turns out, in Focus itself, there is no such message.
And btw, many of the german rumours are NOT true, you say name them? There is too many to name! They make a doping rumour everyday.
They wrote it in their magazine so you have to buy it
https://www.sporta...00000.html
https://www.vol.at...-115875623
Links to the news in German
I think german rumours found some doping networks like the bloodbank in vienna for example
And why was Dekker fired by Rabobank last year?
Because of suspicious blood values?
Edited by Rin on 20-04-2009 10:21
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Posted on 20-04-2009 10:54
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He didn't get fired for that reason. Although, somehow, that still kept in the mind of many foreigners thanks to bad journalism 
Still have to laugh at that.
In fact, he didn't get fired at all. They disbanded, and Rabobank paid Dekker a lot of money to keep his mouth shut.
By the way, there were never suspicious blood values, or do I need to come up with the UCI letter and the words by Pat McQuaid on the NOS again?
Bye bye Rin.
By the way, unconfirmed German doping accusations with no proof at all: Bettini, Weening, Posthuma, Boogerd, Menchov, T.Dekker, the German Biathletes named in the Wiener Blut case.... should I go on?
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Posted on 20-04-2009 11:09
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Ruben wrote:
He didn't get fired for that reason. Although, somehow, that still kept in the mind of many foreigners thanks to bad journalism
Still have to laugh at that.
In fact, he didn't get fired at all. They disbanded, and Rabobank paid Dekker a lot of money to keep his mouth shut.
By the way, there were never suspicious blood values, or do I need to come up with the UCI letter and the words by Pat McQuaid on the NOS again?
Bye bye Rin.
By the way, unconfirmed German doping accusations with no proof at all: Bettini, Weening, Posthuma, Boogerd, Menchov, T.Dekker, the German Biathletes named in the Wiener Blut case.... should I go on?
Please do...
The fact that you in every discussion have to say either idiot, case closed or bye bye to whoever disagree with you show that you are a welldocumented person, who never hitch a mistake. Well done! |
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Posted on 20-04-2009 11:19
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I go on
The T-Mobile TDF 2006 convoi "Road to Freiburg" after the stage in Strasbourg
Honchar -> doped
Sinkewitz -> doped
Kessler -> doped
And see the time trial results in Top 10 many many T-Mobile riders
They said Dekker COULD!! could could could could could be a Fuentes guy , again COULD!! could could could not IS
There is a diffrence between IS and COULD but media likes to play the "Ouw Gouwd he is" card when they translate
But you have to say that "Clasico Mano" fits to Dekker doesn´t it?
A diffrence that doesn´t interest someone who loves Dekker
Reminds me of the "Love firefox hate Internet explorer" smiley somehow
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Posted on 20-04-2009 11:37
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No it doesn't fit, you are trying to make it fit because you want to see him fall.
So far, all links to Dekker and doping have been rumours or even lies (like the blood values story). Yet, these stories linger and make people doubt him. And I think it's sad. |
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Posted on 20-04-2009 11:45
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https://www.tdmaga...072008.pdf
Also, every rider in the peloton has 'variable' bloodvalues (there was never word of suspected bloodvalues, that's a press translation mistake). If you take your bloodvalue now, and next week, you'll see the values are different, thus, variabel.
The fact that it was noticed in the Tour de Suisse, and the fact that he was sick till 1 day before the start, explains low values there. (and he also rode shit there).
It was never worrying for the UCI, so it was never any factor.
It has also nothing to do with how Dekker and Rabobank broke up.... So.
And aside from this, the only news that ever came is from Germany, linking him to codenames, or linking him to Matschiner, without any PROOF.
That's sad journalism to me. |
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