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Critérium du Dauphiné 2013
Pellizotti2
Squire wrote:
It's a piti Valverde was cooked after his attack. He would have won this easily if not. Nevertheless, I loved that he tried from far out.

Nice wordplay! :lol: Grin

Still haven't quite recovered from Dennis' amazing climb. I knew he was decent on short climbs (Willunga last year), but I had no idea he had this kind of potential. Would be awesome if he could hang on to an overall podium.
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
It's not even the Froome that pisses me off. It's these UGLY AS F*CK Oakleys hes wearing with white frames!


I agree get a pair of decent looking shades.By the way just caught his interview n have to say he is quite different looking(being polite).His Hair cut sorry to say looks more like someone has undergone Chemo therapy.(No Disrespect meant)
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kumazan
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Still haven't quite recovered from Dennis' amazing climb. I knew he was decent on short climbs (Willunga last year), but I had no idea he had this kind of potential. Would be awesome if he could hang on to an overall podium.


I think he has a good shot at it, specially considering the Tour de l'Avenir-like mountain stages. Only if the stage to Superdévoluy is really dangerous, specially if they ride the Col du Noyer more or less hard.
Edited by kumazan on 06-06-2013 14:00
 
TimoCycling
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Squire wrote:
It's a piti Valverde was cooked after his attack. He would have won this easily if not. Nevertheless, I loved that he tried from far out.

Nice wordplay! :lol: Grin

Still haven't quite recovered from Dennis' amazing climb. I knew he was decent on short climbs (Willunga last year), but I had no idea he had this kind of potential. Would be awesome if he could hang on to an overall podium.


Hmm, I don't know, he might have blown his legs today for all he has and is worth nothing tomorrow. Also the yellow jersey awakens hidden powersPfft.
 
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ppanther
The time at Sky has indeed made looking him somehow unhealthy.

The first year at sky he looked healthier.

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climeon
ppanther wrote:
Its not so much about Froome not giving Busche the win. For me its more concerning that Froome pre Vuelta 2011 was a rider, who Contador, for example, could have rode circles around and still would have finished in front of him on an uphill finish. Now Froome wins every fucking Mountain finish, if he wants to. Nobody could say that this is happening clean. When Santambrogio had his ridiculous good year, everybody knew he was doping, why should Sky be other?

There are far more valid reasons for Froome's sudden improvement though. He had bizharia fromm 2009-2011, came from Africa, and had great difficulty adapting to riding in the peleton. Jonathon Vaughters said that he heard before the Vuelta that Froome was doing tour de France winning numbers ever since his bizharia was cured but tired himself out trying to ride in the peleton so tried to hire him. Santambrogio however had no "excuses"
 
Kalach
climeon wrote:
ppanther wrote:
Its not so much about Froome not giving Busche the win. For me its more concerning that Froome pre Vuelta 2011 was a rider, who Contador, for example, could have rode circles around and still would have finished in front of him on an uphill finish. Now Froome wins every fucking Mountain finish, if he wants to. Nobody could say that this is happening clean. When Santambrogio had his ridiculous good year, everybody knew he was doping, why should Sky be other?

There are far more valid reasons for Froome's sudden improvement though. He had bizharia fromm 2009-2011, came from Africa, and had great difficulty adapting to riding in the peleton. Jonathon Vaughters said that he heard before the Vuelta that Froome was doing tour de France winning numbers ever since his bizharia was cured but tired himself out trying to ride in the peleton so tried to hire him. Santambrogio however had no "excuses"


I dont believe that Froome is clean. Well, its maybe because I dont like him. But he is able to maintain in relatively top form during the whole season.. It is possible? No hesitation except Tirreno Adriatico. Since Tour of Oman he is constantly slaughtering everybody, except Nibali...
 
Pellizotti2
Some of the bigger disappointments:

48 Pierre Rolland (Fra) Team Europcar 0:04:50
51 Joaquim Rodriguez Oliver (Spa) Katusha 0:05:29
57 Thomas De Gendt (Bel) Vacansoleil-DCM 0:06:16
63 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Merida 0:07:56
73 Jurgen Van Den Broeck (Bel) Lotto Belisol 0:09:58

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Selwink
Keep in mind De Gendt still has problems with his back, so dont expect much of him. Van den Broeck said he didnt have a good shape yet, was here to build up

Edit: back should be knee I believe
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Squire
Kalach wrote:
I dont believe that Froome is clean. Well, its maybe because I dont like him. But he is able to maintain in relatively top form during the whole season.. It is possible? No hesitation except Tirreno Adriatico. Since Tour of Oman he is constantly slaughtering everybody, except Nibali...


So can Sagan, Voeckler, EBH, Contador, Valverde, Cavendish (to a certain degree), Nibali...

Not the best examples of cleanliness most of them, I know, but that's not the point. If you're Lanceing it and only peaking for the Tour, it's not necessarily an indication of being clean either.
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jacobjc88
I agree with you on that it's dissapointing that such big riders lose so much time today, but I ain't surprised. Really De Gendt have been racing really bad for a long time now.......Let's hope he gets in better shape for the Tour de France.
 
ruben
Suprising to see the new 'modern' climbing stages where Contador and Froome only take 30 seconds on Ten Dam etc.

It's also boring to look at. A train all the way and 1 attack in the final km. Looks like PCM. Effort bar 80 and sprint in the final km
 
Squire
ruben wrote:
Suprising to see the new 'modern' climbing stages where Contador and Froome only take 30 seconds on Ten Dam etc.

It's also boring to look at. A train all the way and 1 attack in the final km. Looks like PCM. Effort bar 80 and sprint in the final km


PCM was way ahead of its time! Smile
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ppanther
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Some of the bigger disappointments:

48 Pierre Rolland (Fra) Team Europcar 0:04:50
51 Joaquim Rodriguez Oliver (Spa) Katusha 0:05:29
57 Thomas De Gendt (Bel) Vacansoleil-DCM 0:06:16
63 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Merida 0:07:56
73 Jurgen Van Den Broeck (Bel) Lotto Belisol 0:09:58


Rolland crashed just before the climb an Rodriguez had a mechanical. Both were not in the front group when the climb started. The only thing you could say is, Rolland was 39 seconds faster, since they were in the same group.
 
climeon
Kalach wrote:
I dont believe that Froome is clean. Well, its maybe because I dont like him. But he is able to maintain in relatively top form during the whole season.. It is possible? No hesitation except Tirreno Adriatico. Since Tour of Oman he is constantly slaughtering everybody, except Nibali...

Whilst his year-round dominance this year does make him suspicious, I don't think it is that strong a evidence that he is doping. Pre 1990 almsot all riders were in near-top form at several stages in the year. Furthermore, in the last twenty years many riders were only in top form one or two times a season in order to avoid testing positive. Froome's year-round good form this year makes me think he isn't afraid of tests which I (possibly optimistically) put down to him being clean and not him being immune to being exposed.
 
Alakagom
Didn't watch the stage but excellent ride by Busche it seems.

Dennis did amazingly well. Wellens, Bilbao and Barguil did very well too for such big race.
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Schleck96
With the new PCM, not gonna happen Grin
 
issoisso
TheManxMissile wrote:
Cossack wrote:
That's the difference between Contador (was generous about stage wins several time, e.g. on Giro 2011 when he let Tiralongo, his former domestique, win a stage) and Froome (I think all remember last year Vuelta incident when Valverde crashed)Angry

Instantly countered by Contadors attack on the Bales in 2010...


Riddle me this: If Andy hadn't dropped Contador in the mountains the whole Tour until then, and had lost tons of time in the time trial, how was Andy in yellow that day?

Answer: Andy had gained nearly 2 minutes by attacking Contador when he was caught behind a crash. With a lot of help from the massive hipocrite Cancellara.

Bonus: Contador was crashed by....Frank Schleck
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Pellizotti2
Alakagom wrote:
Didn't watch the stage but excellent ride by Busche it seems.

Dennis did amazingly well. Wellens, Bilbao and Barguil did very well too for such big race.

Worth pointing out that Busche, Wellens and Bilbao were all in the early break.
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fosforgasXIII
jacobjc88 wrote:
I agree with you on that it's dissapointing that such big riders lose so much time today, but I ain't surprised. Really De Gendt have been racing really bad for a long time now.......Let's hope he gets in better shape for the Tour de France.


De Gendt is just riding like he always does. Losing time on every hilly/mountain stage and now and then he takes a win with a break-away. I still don't get it how he managed to ride to an 8th place (the place he had before that insane Mortirolo/Stelvio attack) in last year's Giro.

De Gendt won't do anything at the Tour, mayby go for a stagewin if he's in the lucky break-away. Poels will be Vacansoleil's GC-man.
 
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