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UCPCL World Tour - Cobbles and Catalunya Lists
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 18-04-2013 19:32
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Haha, just for rankings? Madness 
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 18-04-2013 19:48
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If money is half I will redo my startlists as there is no sense in letting my best riders loose racedays in the WorldTour ... |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 18-04-2013 19:50
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@ollfardh
no, thats just 8 spreadsheets
@Bikex
Money really isn't that important so i wouldn't worry
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| baggieboys32 |
Posted on 18-04-2013 21:43
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Hiya guys, it's almost WT time again kicking off the major WT season with Paris-Nice. Could I get the squads from you all please, (All WT teams, and Tap-Michelin)
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| Ad Bot |
Posted on 22-11-2024 07:44
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 18-04-2013 21:54
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I'm assuming you can't send a rider to both P-N and T-A? (theoretically it would be possible)
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 18-04-2013 21:57
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fcancellara wrote:
I'm assuming you can't send a rider to both P-N and T-A? (theoretically it would be possible)
It was allowed!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| baggieboys32 |
Posted on 18-04-2013 22:22
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Allowed but frowned upon, If the rider was a domestique then there's no real issue as i understand it, however to send your teams biggest star to both would be going against the spirit of the game
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 19-04-2013 05:53
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But I made my planning with Voeckler riding both.
Almost nobody has race days left and it ruins my planning if I have to change it now.
Why would it be frowned upon anyway? I don't see the logic, thry are running after each other; the calendar says it too. I mean, Bianche, Langkawi &
Paris-Nice, but I can't avoid all those clashes as well...
Sorry, I really don't want to change it now, I have to build a completely different squad then for 1 of the races or sending a weak squad to the other one.
Sorry 
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 19-04-2013 07:17
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If it happens once, I'm not gonna frown at you 
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| mvhoogdalem |
Posted on 19-04-2013 07:17
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It's frowned upon, because you can't race both P-N and T-A in real life But ultimately it's your own choice. Also, I agree that with Langkawi, Bianche, P-N, T-A it's really hard to find different competitive squads 
Edited by mvhoogdalem on 19-04-2013 07:18
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| Welwyn |
Posted on 19-04-2013 10:23
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Sent both in. |
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 19-04-2013 16:36
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Still needing startlists from:
jaxika
ste_18
dev4ever
fcancellara
Pinktay3
Neillster
(not yelling, just reminding )
Any "inactive" managers will get a completely random team chosen via random.org.
No strict deadline (yet), but the sooner you send lists the sooner we can get racing.
Edited by Atlantius on 19-04-2013 20:39
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 19-04-2013 16:49
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Oh, that's actually much flatter then anticipated
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 19-04-2013 16:56
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Wait. That is the Tirreno route?
Shit. I should've send a completely different team then... The route TMM said contains much more climbing kms...
My planning is screwed up now... 
Edited by Jesleyh on 19-04-2013 16:57
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| juszta |
Posted on 19-04-2013 16:58
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Ollfardh wrote:
Oh, that's actually much flatter then anticipated :D
Jesley wrote:
Wait. That is the Tirreno route?
Shit. I should've send a completely different team then... The route TMM said contains much more climbing kms...
How did you two do your planning if you did not know the profiles?
Here are the notes I took when I "studied" the profile variants [It's not well formatted, these are just notes :P ]
Spoiler
Tour Down Under(6days): 2 hill, 4 flat
Paris-Nice(8days): 4km prlg, 4 flat, 3 hill (1 summit)
Tirreno-Adriatico(7days): 20km hilly TT, 2 flat, 3 hill (2 summit), 1 mountain (summit)
Vuelta a Catalunya(7days): 3 flat, 4 mtn (1-2 summit)
Vuelta a Pais Vasco(6days): 2 brutal mountains, 25km hilly TT, 2 hilly, 1 flat
Tour de Romandie(6days): 8km prlg, 1 flat, 2 hilly (1 summit), 1 mountain(small summit), 1 MTT (25,5km)
Giro d'Italia(21days): 31km TTT, 65km ITT, 9 sprint stages, mountains
Dauphiné(8days): 6km prlg, 52km ITT, 3 flat, 2 hilly (1 summit), 2 mountain
Tour de Suisse(9days): 7km hilly prlg, 35km hilly ITT, 3 flat, 1 hilly, 3 mountain (all summit)
Tour de France(21days): 25km TTT, 82km ITT, 7 flat, 3 hilly (1 summit), 8 mountain (7 summit)
Tour de Pologne(7days): 3 hilly (1 small summit), 4 flat
Eneco(8days): normal
Vuelta(21days): 16km TTT, 40km hilly ITT, 9 flat, 3 "Purito" hills, 7 mountain (all summit)
Beijing(5days): 9km prlg, 3 flat, 1 hilly |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 19-04-2013 17:02
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I know the profile. I saw the variant TMM listed, and studied the profile as well...
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| juszta |
Posted on 19-04-2013 17:04
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Jesleyh wrote:
I know the profile. I saw the variant TMM listed, and studied the profile as well...
You are right, there is something wrong here. I just had a brief look at the profiles Atlantius posted, and they are not accurate. This should not be the correct route.
Edited by juszta on 19-04-2013 17:05
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| mvhoogdalem |
Posted on 19-04-2013 17:05
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List for Tirreno sent in. Must have missed the post mentioning it starting
Profile posted is the 2012 version. Might be possible Atlantius doesn't have the correct variant or just posted the 2012 version
Edited by mvhoogdalem on 19-04-2013 17:12
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 19-04-2013 17:20
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I know Atlantius can't help it, but it does ruin my plans completely
The climbing/TT km ratio is changed a lot too.
I can only see stage 5 making nice gaps(while the mountain stage in the variant is a lot bigger), and maybe stage 6 some okay gaps.
My climbers won't be able to handle that, now that there are 25km TT(not even a hilly TT), while the amount of climbing is highly limited.
Wait. The first stage is even a TTT? Man, that's even worse for me
Edited by Jesleyh on 19-04-2013 17:25
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 19-04-2013 17:24
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I will just say tough!
You know how the UCI is mental and i am evil
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