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Tour de France 2012: Pre-Race thread
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| ruben |
Posted on 18-06-2012 17:04
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Boom never wanted to go. It was never a possibility this year ;-)
I think as it stands right now. Kruijswijk has a huge chance to win the white jersey. He has done a very good suisse and he only gets better in a 3 week race. He's a much better climber than Van Garderen and can limit the damage in a TT. Also, Taaramae is nowhere near his usual level due to pfeiffer.
And Rolland/Coppel/Jeanneson are too old.
But then again, Gesink was a shoe-in for the white jersey last year but got injured. So you always have to avoid calamities first...
Gesink, it would suprise me if he didn't finish in the top 5. He could even podium if he finds his climbing form of 2 years ago. Right now he is more a TT specialist who can clamp on in the mountains, rather than a climber he was first
Mollema I have no idea. He's a bit unpredictable.
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| iNSUPERABLE |
Posted on 18-06-2012 17:17
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https://www.cyclin...-de-france
Schleck said that he did not see Suisse as a preparation for the Tour. “No, absolutely not,” he told Het Nieuwsblad. “I did the preparation for the Ardennes classics, then I went unexpectedly to the Giro.” He noted, “I'm not a machine. You should be realistic. I am already very lean and in great shape, I can not continue to maintain this level.” |
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| Vien |
Posted on 18-06-2012 17:19
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ruben wrote:
Boom never wanted to go. It was never a possibility this year ;-)
I think as it stands right now. Kruijswijk has a huge chance to win the white jersey. He has done a very good suisse and he only gets better in a 3 week race. He's a much better climber than Van Garderen and can limit the damage in a TT. Also, Taaramae is nowhere near his usual level due to pfeiffer.
And Rolland/Coppel/Jeanneson are too old.
But then again, Gesink was a shoe-in for the white jersey last year but got injured. So you always have to avoid calamities first...
Gesink, it would suprise me if he didn't finish in the top 5. He could even podium if he finds his climbing form of 2 years ago. Right now he is more a TT specialist who can clamp on in the mountains, rather than a climber he was first
Mollema I have no idea. He's a bit unpredictable.
I'm not sure if Kruijswijk is allowed to go for the young rider jersey. Appearantly Rabobank announced Mollema nd Gesink as leaders, so I think he'll have to work for them (is Mollema really that much better than Kruijswijk?). But of course, you can say that of Van Garderen as well. After all he got 82th last year and can still get that jersey next year if we wanted to.
One notable name in the preselection: Scarponi??
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 18-06-2012 18:18
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iNSUPERABLE wrote:
https://www.cyclin...-de-france
Schleck said that he did not see Suisse as a preparation for the Tour. “No, absolutely not,” he told Het Nieuwsblad. “I did the preparation for the Ardennes classics, then I went unexpectedly to the Giro.” He noted, “I'm not a machine. You should be realistic. I am already very lean and in great shape, I can not continue to maintain this level.”
How about that.
Just when he has a chance  (meaning no Andy, not meaning 100km TT)
But then who'll lead TDF for RSNT? |
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| arthon |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:01
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Kloden, probably. |
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| Andro |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:05
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Official Radioshack lineup:
Fabian Cancellara, Tony Gallopin, Chris Horner, Andreas Klöden, Maxime Monfort, Yaroslav Popovych, Fränk Schleck, Jens Voigt and Haimar Zubeldia
No Fuglsang. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:06
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i'd selected fuglsang instead of popo... but ok |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:12
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I would have selected Fuglsang instead of Zubeldia, Popo, Gallopin, Horner and Voigt any day. He looked good in Suisse and was about to peak for the Tour, in contrary to last years when he has rode excellent in Suisse, but declined in the Tour. Hell, i think he would have been there 2. best opportunity in the GC - possible around 10th.
But okay, i'm dane. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:13
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Lol. Zubeldia was far superior than Fuglsang. Zubeldia was with the better climbers in the Dauphine.
Fuglsang wasnt in Suisse (even before working for F.Schleck).
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:19
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ruben wrote:
Lol. Zubeldia was far superior than Fuglsang. Zubeldia was with the better climbers in the Dauphine.
Fuglsang wasnt in Suisse (even before working for F.Schleck).
I would much rather have Fuglsang than Zubeldia, still. Zubeldia has been mediocre for a long while and wheelsucking a bit on ONE mountain stage in a preparation race a month before the Tour justifies about nothing. Fuglsang would obviously have been the better rider. At least he has the youth in front of him and has a potential to ride top-10. Zubeldia doesn't.
And what the fuck are you talking about Fuglsang wasn't in Suisse? I Don't get you. But what the hell. The only thing you care about is your rubbish dutch riders.
Edited by Riis123 on 18-06-2012 19:20
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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:20
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Fuglsang ruined his career by going to leopard |
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| ruben |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:25
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Lol I say 1 not 100% positive thing about Fuglsang and you start throwing dirt immediately. Nice argument there. Blind fanboy...
Fuglsang wasn't good in Suisse, very short pull. And then that was it. He couldn't finish in a decent group either. His ITT was far worse than his best either. Even you as blind fanboy should admit that.
Remind me how Fuglsnag climbed in the Vuelta 2011 then. That was terrible as well. He is nowhere near his Dauphine 2009 level. That was the Fuglsang that could get a Tour selection.
He has pissed away his career the last 2 years
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:29
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ruben wrote:
Lol I say 1 not 100% positive thing about Fuglsang and you start throwing dirt immediately. Nice argument there. Blind fanboy...
Remind me how Fuglsnag climbed in the Vuelta 2011 then. That was terrible as well. He is nowhere near his Dauphine 2009 level. That was the Fuglsang that could get a Tour selection.
He has pissed away his career the last 2 years
No, i just don't get you: Fuglsang wasnt in Suisse (even before working for F.Schleck). What do you mean?
Besides, calling me a fanboy is hilarious. When you are talking about Mollema, Gesink and Kruijswik you make them sound like cycling jesuses. They aren't. Gesink will, if lucky very lucky, be a round 5-7 in the GC. |
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| iNSUPERABLE |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:29
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As a fan of Andreas Klöden I hope he will have his last chance in the Tour.
He showed some legs on the last stage in Suisse, so i think he will be fine in Tour..
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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:32
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iNSUPERABLE wrote:
As a fan of Andreas Klöden I hope he will have his last chance in the Tour.
He showed some legs on the last stage in Suisse, so i think he will be fine in Tour..
There's no way he'll be favoured in front of frank |
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| Maddrengen |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:33
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ruben wrote:
Lol I say 1 not 100% positive thing about Fuglsang and you start throwing dirt immediately. Nice argument there. Blind fanboy...
Fuglsang wasn't good in Suisse, very short pull. And then that was it. He couldn't finish in a decent group either. His ITT was far worse than his best either. Even you as blind fanboy should admit that.
Remind me how Fuglsnag climbed in the Vuelta 2011 then. That was terrible as well. He is nowhere near his Dauphine 2009 level. That was the Fuglsang that could get a Tour selection.
He has pissed away his career the last 2 years He did a great job in Suisse! We'll a bad TT, that's correct, but he climbed real good, and worked for Frank! He should be on the Tour team! Klöden is, but he did a terrible job in Suisse! Fuglsang rode fantastic in Luxembourg, remember that!
Bruyneel is thinkin with the head up in his ass! Radioshack is lickin the bottom, since this fusion. Actually the moment they left Bjarne, the results stopped.
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| ruben |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:34
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Riis123 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Lol I say 1 not 100% positive thing about Fuglsang and you start throwing dirt immediately. Nice argument there. Blind fanboy...
Remind me how Fuglsnag climbed in the Vuelta 2011 then. That was terrible as well. He is nowhere near his Dauphine 2009 level. That was the Fuglsang that could get a Tour selection.
He has pissed away his career the last 2 years
No, i just don't get you: Fuglsang wasnt in Suisse (even before working for F.Schleck). What do you mean?
Besides, calling me a fanboy is hilarious. When you are talking about Mollema, Gesink and Kruijswik you make them sound like cycling jesuses. They aren't. Gesink will, if lucky very lucky, be a round 5-7 in the GC.
Oh yeah? Elaborate please? Most of my expectations are very realistic and down to earth. I never talk them up. They usually finish right where you'd expect them. Or where I expected them 
You're just furious because I think Fuglsang went downhill fast the past 2 years and can't stand that I'm right. |
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| iNSUPERABLE |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:35
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jsh312mufc wrote:
iNSUPERABLE wrote:
As a fan of Andreas Klöden I hope he will have his last chance in the Tour.
He showed some legs on the last stage in Suisse, so i think he will be fine in Tour..
There's no way he'll be favoured in front of frank
Are you reading the news ???? |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:36
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ruben wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Lol I say 1 not 100% positive thing about Fuglsang and you start throwing dirt immediately. Nice argument there. Blind fanboy...
Remind me how Fuglsnag climbed in the Vuelta 2011 then. That was terrible as well. He is nowhere near his Dauphine 2009 level. That was the Fuglsang that could get a Tour selection.
He has pissed away his career the last 2 years
No, i just don't get you: Fuglsang wasnt in Suisse (even before working for F.Schleck). What do you mean?
Besides, calling me a fanboy is hilarious. When you are talking about Mollema, Gesink and Kruijswik you make them sound like cycling jesuses. They aren't. Gesink will, if lucky very lucky, be a round 5-7 in the GC.
Oh yeah? Elaborate please? Most of my expectations are very realistic and down to earth. I never talk them up. They usually finish right where you'd expect them. Or where I expected them
You're just furious because I think Fuglsang went downhill fast the past 2 years and can't stand that I'm right.
Went downhill? Like descending from a mountain? Oh, okay.
But you still aren't answering me. What do you mean with this: Fuglsang wasnt in Suisse (even before working for F.Schleck). |
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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 18-06-2012 19:37
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iNSUPERABLE wrote:
jsh312mufc wrote:
iNSUPERABLE wrote:
As a fan of Andreas Klöden I hope he will have his last chance in the Tour.
He showed some legs on the last stage in Suisse, so i think he will be fine in Tour..
There's no way he'll be favoured in front of frank
Are you reading the news ????
Apparently not. But did well in switzerland |
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