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Tour de France 2010: Stage 2 Bruxelles - Spa
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:14
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So we should kill the tour at stage 2. Great plan. I'll go on holiday, bye.
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| roturn |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:16
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filmmaker14 wrote:
BouBBox wrote:
filmmaker14 wrote:
So what that's part of the game. Tour de France is not for pussies.
If you wan't to have 21 stages you should accept this. Easy to say when you are siting in a sofa. It's a sport the objective isn't to be the last one standing on his bike!
I cycle myself too fyi. I don't have to accept anything. I don't have to watch tomorrow especially if it rains, because it's a given that tomorrow there are going to be massive crashes on the cobbles. The Tour is about survival and drama. The cyclists should do their job and offer a spectacle instead of making best friends with each other.
So in your opinion they should dope legally just for a bigger spectacle and die with 50 because of this? They are just human and if there was oil on the road it`s just normal that they continue really carefully. Of course it`s not the best stage for us but I understand them. |
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| H Tong Long |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:17
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I'm afraid that I have to agree with you. Le Tour has ALWAYS been about survival. On a variety of different terrains. It has only been in recent years that T.T. performances have come to the fore as the deciding factor. And, IMHO, it's a pity that such a scenario ever came about in the forst place!
Merckx' personally congratulating the rider of his machines, who won today's stage, says it all really. Cancellara should be ashamed of his actions - not in anyway non-partisan, given that they followed Schleck's crash - and, he should be fined and lose time as a consequence. |
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| filmmaker14 |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:18
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CountArach wrote:
filmmaker14 wrote:
The cyclists should do their job and offer a spectacle instead of making best friends with each other.
At the exceedingly heightened risk of losing their job through injury, especially if there was this oil on the road?
Well, if that's the case I suppose that's different. Generally though, a heightened risk is not valid to stop racing imo. Then they should never take dangerous descents any more, then it's basicly unfair that Sanchez and Nibali dare to take risks that could hurt your job... |
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| filmmaker14 |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:19
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roturn wrote:
filmmaker14 wrote:
I cycle myself too fyi. I don't have to accept anything. I don't have to watch tomorrow especially if it rains, because it's a given that tomorrow there are going to be massive crashes on the cobbles. The Tour is about survival and drama. The cyclists should do their job and offer a spectacle instead of making best friends with each other.
So in your opinion they should dope legally just for a bigger spectacle and die with 50 because of this? They are just human and if there was oil on the road it`s just normal that they continue really carefully. Of course it`s not the best stage for us but I understand them.
Doping is cheating. Staying on your bike when others crash is not. How can you even compare that???  |
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| jph27 |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:20
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filmmaker14 wrote:
roturn wrote:
filmmaker14 wrote:
I cycle myself too fyi. I don't have to accept anything. I don't have to watch tomorrow especially if it rains, because it's a given that tomorrow there are going to be massive crashes on the cobbles. The Tour is about survival and drama. The cyclists should do their job and offer a spectacle instead of making best friends with each other.
So in your opinion they should dope legally just for a bigger spectacle and die with 50 because of this? They are just human and if there was oil on the road it`s just normal that they continue really carefully. Of course it`s not the best stage for us but I understand them.
Doping is cheating. Staying on your bike when others crash is not. How can you even compare that???
His comment made no sense. |
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:20
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H Tong Long wrote:
I'm afraid that I have to agree with you. Le Tour has ALWAYS been about survival. On a variety of different terrains. It has only been in recent years that T.T. performances have come to the fore as the deciding factor. And, IMHO, it's a pity that such a scenario ever came about in the forst place!
Merckx' personally congratulating the rider of his machines, who won today's stage, says it all really. Cancellara should be ashamed of his actions - not in anyway non-partisan, given that they followed Schleck's crash - and, he should be fined and lose time as a consequence.
Do you think Cancelarra decided to do that himself? 
Team Europcar !!
RIP Wouter
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| CountArach |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:22
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From twitter:
@cyclingweekly - Hearing that both Vande Velde and Farrar (Garmin) have gone to hospital after crashing. They did finish the stage though. #Tdf
Edited by CountArach on 05-07-2010 17:23
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:25
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filmmaker14 wrote:
Doping is cheating. Staying on your bike when others crash is not. How can you even compare that???
Personally I like races based on attacks and courage. You seem to have fun seing men crashing and getting theirselves hurt you're just insane. A crash can happen but a stage race shouldn't depend on crashes at this point. If the peleton hadn't stop racing about 75% of the leaders would have lost all their chances of winning the Tour because of a crash which isn't their fault.
Edited by BouBBox on 05-07-2010 17:28
Team Europcar !!
RIP Wouter
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| CountArach |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:27
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CountArach wrote:
From twitter:
@cyclingweekly - Hearing that both Vande Velde and Farrar (Garmin) have gone to hospital after crashing. They did finish the stage though. #Tdf
And VandeVelde bleeding from around his eye:
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:29
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Bruyneel + Armstrong both say it's as if something was on the road with so many fallers, there was no grip. Everything went down, bikes, TV motorbikes.
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| bfreire |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:29
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CountArach wrote:
CountArach wrote:
From twitter:
@cyclingweekly - Hearing that both Vande Velde and Farrar (Garmin) have gone to hospital after crashing. They did finish the stage though. #Tdf
And VandeVelde bleeding from around his eye:
https://twitpic.co...
i would be harsh if he needs too drop out the tour again after his fall in the giro
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| ruben |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:34
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Contadors knee looks nice as well
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:37
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The real question is, how can we blame Cavendish for all this crashing?
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| filmmaker14 |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:38
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BouBBox wrote:
filmmaker14 wrote:
Doping is cheating. Staying on your bike when others crash is not. How can you even compare that???
Personally I like races based on attacks and courage. You seem to have fun seing men crashing and getting theirselves hurt you're just insane. A crash can happen but a stage race shouldn't depend on crashes at this point. If the peleton hadn't stop racing about 75% of the leaders would have lost all their chances of winning the Tour because of a crash which isn't their fault.
Drama = entertainment. I'm not loving crashes, but it causes for great drama. I hate injuries but that's just part of sports. The race should unfold as it does. There's a saying "le Tour n'attend pas personne" (doesn't wait for nobody) but that's not the case any more, and it takes away from the legend of the Tour. Bad luck is supposed to happen in the Tour, it's part of the race. Tom Boonen won Paris-Roubaix in 2009 thanks to everybody in his wheel falling down. Should he have stopped? |
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| ruben |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:38
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Cavendish dropped some oil there before the race, he knew the others would crash and that way he doesn't lose points for green.
A sneaky plan by Cav. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:41
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filmmaker14 wrote:
roturn wrote:
filmmaker14 wrote:
I cycle myself too fyi. I don't have to accept anything. I don't have to watch tomorrow especially if it rains, because it's a given that tomorrow there are going to be massive crashes on the cobbles. The Tour is about survival and drama. The cyclists should do their job and offer a spectacle instead of making best friends with each other.
So in your opinion they should dope legally just for a bigger spectacle and die with 50 because of this? They are just human and if there was oil on the road it`s just normal that they continue really carefully. Of course it`s not the best stage for us but I understand them.
Doping is cheating. Staying on your bike when others crash is not. How can you even compare that???
Probably you misunderstood me and my example was too weird. What I meant was that we all expect spectacles of them, like you wrote. It`s the same in every sport. We want to see exciting stages, great footballgames, new worldrecords...
But if there is a stage like today with obviously oil on a descent this all should move into background in my opinion. Most important is the safety of all riders. So maybe it`s boring for us, but they have to take care for their career, family...
If the roads are too bad or with oil I understand why they rode like today.
Edited by roturn on 05-07-2010 17:42
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:44
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filmmaker14 wrote:
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I cant even begin to count the things that are wrong with discouraging the riders from you know, not getting killed...
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| kumazan |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:45
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Matxin (Footon's team manager) says that he expects Cancellara to stop tomorrow if one of his riders falls in the cobbles.
You know, sportmanship.  |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:48
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Where would Matxin get that info from?
I smell BS.
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