valverde321 wrote:
Ok I'll admit this is sorta like the Hushovd fans, but atleast for me I have plausible deniability!
@ Guido, I was saying Brady and Peyton are miles ahead of Bradford, and most for that matter, but then there is that 2nd tier of QB's in the league like Matt Ryan, Brett Favre, Mark Sanchez, Jay Cutler, and I'm saying Bradford probably fits into this "tier".
@ jacknic If you look at Bradford he's been pretty consistant this season and has done fairly well all season. He's been more consistant than Sanchez, although he seems to be picking it up now.
But most importantly of all LETS Go Dolphins!!!
Gotta cheer as the Patriots are hated by all and Dolphins are a cool team. Plus they're the underdog, but their defense has been really good so far.
I think you're wearing tinted blue and gold glasses.
Sam Bradford is completing 58.2% of his passes, good for 24th. His YPA is 5.98, 28th. And his 6 INTs are one behind the league lead. Personally, I think this is right where a rookie QB should be, so I think he's doing fine. Right on track. But he is also in the bottom-half of QBs in the league.
Those numbers aren't second tier QB level. In my opinion, there are 4 truly elite QBs (Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers). That is the first tier. Then the second tier is guys like Roethlisberger, McNabb, Schaub, Romo, Rivers, and a couple others I mentioned. Bradford is no where near those guys, at the moment.
He's ahead of Ben
Ok so according to your tiers Bradford would be 3rd tier with guys like Garrard, Ryan, Sanchez and Eli.
YPA means nothing imo (he's still 11th in passing yards) and 6 INTs, Flacco, Favre, Hasselbeck and Eli are also at 6. Rodgers has 5. Hmm Bradford is also tied for 8th with TD passes with Vick, Ryan, Orton, Garrard and Cutler. Bradford has 10 sacks, but that doesn't say much as Vick has 11 sacks. Bradford also has the 8th most completions. And again, 50% of the completion % for QB's is the WRs fault too.
Edit:A good example of passing % would actually be Alex Ovechkin (NHL) he takes the most shots of anyone in the NHL every season, and his goals for shots percentage is not that high, but he still puts up lots of points, because he is a good player and can make things happen. Bradford is the same imo except not quite as big of a star as Ovie.
YPA means a lot. His low numbers means he's throwing shorts passes. Combined with a poor completion percentage, that's not good.
Of Eli's 6 INTs, 5 have come off receivers hands. As for sacks, Vick has 11 because he extends plays because of his legs.
This is roughly how I would tier the starting QBs.
valverde321 wrote:
Ok I'll admit this is sorta like the Hushovd fans, but atleast for me I have plausible deniability!
@ Guido, I was saying Brady and Peyton are miles ahead of Bradford, and most for that matter, but then there is that 2nd tier of QB's in the league like Matt Ryan, Brett Favre, Mark Sanchez, Jay Cutler, and I'm saying Bradford probably fits into this "tier".
@ jacknic If you look at Bradford he's been pretty consistant this season and has done fairly well all season. He's been more consistant than Sanchez, although he seems to be picking it up now.
But most importantly of all LETS Go Dolphins!!!
Gotta cheer as the Patriots are hated by all and Dolphins are a cool team. Plus they're the underdog, but their defense has been really good so far.
I think you're wearing tinted blue and gold glasses.
Sam Bradford is completing 58.2% of his passes, good for 24th. His YPA is 5.98, 28th. And his 6 INTs are one behind the league lead. Personally, I think this is right where a rookie QB should be, so I think he's doing fine. Right on track. But he is also in the bottom-half of QBs in the league.
Those numbers aren't second tier QB level. In my opinion, there are 4 truly elite QBs (Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers). That is the first tier. Then the second tier is guys like Roethlisberger, McNabb, Schaub, Romo, Rivers, and a couple others I mentioned. Bradford is no where near those guys, at the moment.
He's ahead of Ben
Ok so according to your tiers Bradford would be 3rd tier with guys like Garrard, Ryan, Sanchez and Eli.
YPA means nothing imo (he's still 11th in passing yards) and 6 INTs, Flacco, Favre, Hasselbeck and Eli are also at 6. Rodgers has 5. Hmm Bradford is also tied for 8th with TD passes with Vick, Ryan, Orton, Garrard and Cutler. Bradford has 10 sacks, but that doesn't say much as Vick has 11 sacks. Bradford also has the 8th most completions. And again, 50% of the completion % for QB's is the WRs fault too.
Edit:A good example of passing % would actually be Alex Ovechkin (NHL) he takes the most shots of anyone in the NHL every season, and his goals for shots percentage is not that high, but he still puts up lots of points, because he is a good player and can make things happen. Bradford is the same imo except not quite as big of a star as Ovie.
This is roughly how I would tier the starting QBs.
A_Schleck wrote:
Flacco in 4th!!? Are you kiddin' me? And then you have Vick in 2nd!!? Sorry but can't take that seriously!
For me he's on the border between 3 and 4. He's in his 3rd year, but at the moment, regressing. The only great game he has had this year was against Cleveland. He was average against the Steelers, bad against the Jets, and terrible against the Bengals.
And Vick, when healthy, is an elite quarterback. He may not be the best pure passer, but his teams (which are usually very average) win. Plus, he has been great this year.
valverde321 wrote:
But most importantly of all LETS Go Dolphins!!!
Gotta cheer as the Patriots are hated by all and Dolphins are a cool team. Plus they're the underdog, but their defense has been really good so far.
valverde321 wrote:
But most importantly of all LETS Go Dolphins!!!
Gotta cheer as the Patriots are hated by all and Dolphins are a cool team. Plus they're the underdog, but their defense has been really good so far.
41-14. 6 minutes left. Enough said.
Not all hate the Pats.
Boston, born and raised.
Fins O Line blows tonight, and defense is having an off night. Adding to that the Pats Special teams and this score makes complete sense.
I'm not going to lie though, Pats are like my 4th most hated team. Back into the Kurt Warner-Bruce-Holt-Faulk days is when I started this hate. You understand right?
valverde321 wrote:
But most importantly of all LETS Go Dolphins!!!
Gotta cheer as the Patriots are hated by all and Dolphins are a cool team. Plus they're the underdog, but their defense has been really good so far.
41-14. 6 minutes left. Enough said.
Not all hate the Pats.
Boston, born and raised.
Fins O Line blows tonight, and defense is having an off night. Adding to that the Pats Special teams and this score makes complete sense.
I'm not going to lie though, Pats are like my 4th most hated team. Back into the Kurt Warner-Bruce-Holt-Faulk days is when I started this hate. You understand right?
Haha, no grudge. I understand. But at the same time, my favorite football moment of all time was Ty Law returning that interception.
valverde321 wrote:
Wait a trade in the NFL? And for a 2011 3rd round pick. Rip-off.
I'm not in love with the move, but he wasn't going to re-sign and I imagine the Pats figured they should get something while they can. Plus, now they have 2 picks in the first 4 rounds of the next draft.
EDIT: Nice avatar Edited by Tuco the Ugly on 06-10-2010 14:24
Like the move, Pats will find a replacement somewhere meanwhile the Vikes get the experienced receiver they need. I mean Favre has been bad thus far but look at his receiving corps. I mean Harvin who is battling migraine is their leading receiver while Berrian isnt getting anything done.
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