alexkr00 wrote:
when Menchov attacked in the last metres and tooked some seconds to Di Luca, nobody said that Di Luca is/was in trouble. The same thing happened today, but with Menchov losing some seconds.
Because Di Luca worked for Menchov all the way up that climb when Sastre and Basso went, and did the same today
Di Luca worked for him trying to get Menchov tired and not let Sastre or Basso go to far, but Menchov staied in his wheel.
And that's why Menchov sprinted past him at the end the other day
Shooting Star wrote:
Di Luca shouldn't have pulled Menchov all the way up the mountain. He should've let him take the responsibility for keeping up the pace and attacked him in short bursts to slowly wear him down.
It's a hard analysis. It's hard to do a lot of short bursts because they waste a lot more energy to the attacker than to the counterattacker. Generally, the best gamble, if any, is to attack once or twice. I doubt there is something Di Luca could have done today. Even with his explosiveness, he never was more than a couple of meters ahead Menchov. And without any other seriuos contender to the GC, who could help wear down Menchov, it's almost an impossible job for Di Luca alone. And Menchov did what he had to do, anyways. Even if Di Luca had lowered even more his rhytm, Menchov wouldn't have worked. What for?
Considering Pellizotti had attacked from them, Menchov would have to work unless Garzelli would have picked up the pace. Of course that could have meant that Pellizotti would be back in the game, but that is a risk I think he should have taken. You gotta sacrifice a little in order to win.
alexkr00 wrote:
when Menchov attacked in the last metres and tooked some seconds to Di Luca, nobody said that Di Luca is/was in trouble. The same thing happened today, but with Menchov losing some seconds.
Because Di Luca didn't lose like 10 seconds in 200 meters, and he didn't crack in the way that Menchov did in the end, thats why.
BenBarnes wrote:
Thor wears a live rattlesnake as a condom.
The only way we get some excitement before the final TT is if Di Luca gets the jersey, and a small gap of about 30 secs to Menchov. Then it's just what counts more, Di Luca's motivation and jersey, or Menchov's superior TT abilities.
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alexkr00 wrote:
when Menchov attacked in the last metres and tooked some seconds to Di Luca, nobody said that Di Luca is/was in trouble. The same thing happened today, but with Menchov losing some seconds.
Because Di Luca worked for Menchov all the way up that climb when Sastre and Basso went, and did the same today
Indeed now one helped Di Luca today..he was pulling all alone..(and this was Blockhause stage) and still managed to get Menchov "dead" face..first time at this Giro.. Dont be worried Menchov will take Giro win..but Di Luca is grazy bastard..he wont give up...and will try again.
I won't really be so confident.
As for Sastre, I tend to agree with Lagetcher after rewatching the climb : today the spaniard lacked tactics, and also some power.
Shooting Star wrote:
Di Luca shouldn't have pulled Menchov all the way up the mountain. He should've let him take the responsibility for keeping up the pace and attacked him in short bursts to slowly wear him down.
alexkr00 wrote:
when Menchov attacked in the last metres and tooked some seconds to Di Luca, nobody said that Di Luca is/was in trouble. The same thing happened today, but with Menchov losing some seconds.
Because Di Luca worked for Menchov all the way up that climb when Sastre and Basso went, and did the same today
Indeed now one helped Di Luca today..he was pulling all alone..(and this was Blockhause stage) and still managed to get Menchov "dead" face..first time at this Giro.. Dont be worried Menchov will take Giro win..but Di Luca is grazy bastard..he wont give up...and will try again.
I won't really be so confident.
As for Sastre, I tend to agree with Lagetcher after rewatching the climb : today the spaniard lacked tactics, and also some power.
So let's start a useless debate :
IF Di Luca is able to have the same form as he has had so far, considering the fact that Vesuvius ends with 9+ % slopes, and considering the fact that Di Luca proved today that Menchov isn't invincible, then I can honestly think that nothing's over.
The final TT isn't a problem : 14.4km with the "maglia rosa" in Rome, that won't be a torture for Di Luca
Shooting Star wrote:
Di Luca shouldn't have pulled Menchov all the way up the mountain. He should've let him take the responsibility for keeping up the pace and attacked him in short bursts to slowly wear him down.
Rinhoth wrote:
The only way we get some excitement before the final TT is if Di Luca gets the jersey, and a small gap of about 30 secs to Menchov. Then it's just what counts more, Di Luca's motivation and jersey, or Menchov's superior TT abilities.
Um, it isn't exactly a 50km TT under extreme wind conditions...