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General Career Discussion - PCM15
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| Lachi |
Posted on 25-06-2015 13:08
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7thGalaxy wrote:
One quality of life thing that would save so much time would be merging the rider objectives and scheduling screens, or at the least, not showing any races on the rider objective screens, that are not valid for the team to take part in.
If you try and sign a rider who has objectives that your team aren't going to be able to fulfil then they should probably refuse to join you.
The objectives take absolutely ages to set up properly, and I'm not even convinced that they do much good. It's just not much fun, and I wish they had improved the interface for this year.
Do you mean something like this:
I have updated my planner for PCM 2015 but I don't have the game so I cannot tell if it works (especially how it would work for the Be-A-Pro mode). But you are free to test it.
Edited by Lachi on 26-06-2015 15:46
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| 7thGalaxy |
Posted on 25-06-2015 19:14
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Hi Lachi - I'm getting an error - gene_workplan is neither a DataColumn nor a DataRelation for table DYN_cyclist.
This happens when initially loading a new save |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 25-06-2015 20:36
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7thGalaxy wrote:
Hi Lachi - I'm getting an error - gene_workplan is neither a DataColumn nor a DataRelation for table DYN_cyclist.
This happens when initially loading a new save
Please upload your save somewhere and send me the link so that I can test it. |
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| skylax |
Posted on 25-06-2015 21:03
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The progression of riders is way too slow. I have Küng in my team, gave him the best coach with whom he has an excellent relationship. Until July he got +1TT and +1Prologue. This being said, he is pretty much the only rider who progressed. Emmanuel Buchmann got a +1MO, that is it. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 25-06-2015 23:29
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tbh the only reason i haven't started career yet is because of things like this. Career mode always has the most bugs/flaws before the patches.
Be a pro is at least playable. Career not until they ironed out bugs and flaws like the one Skylax just reported |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 26-06-2015 00:28
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ruben wrote:
tbh the only reason i haven't started career yet is because of things like this. Career mode always has the most bugs/flaws before the patches.
Be a pro is at least playable. Career not until they ironed out bugs and flaws like the one Skylax just reported
For me the career stays unplayable even after fixing the bugs. That whole mode is a big annoyance because I am not only forced to cope with the silly implementations of scouting, equipment R&D, sponsor objectives, season planning and riders objectives. On top I will waste my time being fooled by stupid AI if I play stages in 3D.
The only working part of the game was the quick simulation of the races. But in PCM 2014 they even messed up the quick simulation because it was not possible to simulate to any date I wanted. Did they fix that for PCM2015? |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 26-06-2015 00:31
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Yes you can now select specific dates for simulation. You can only do that for 4 weeks though, if I recall correctly.
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 26-06-2015 08:11
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I've started a short ish career with Orica in time I wait for a proper DB. Currently I'm at the final stage of Oman and so far I've had some good results:
Brett Lancaster - 1st AUS NC
Simon Clarke - 5th Tour Down Under, Stage win
Magnus Cort Nielsen - 1st Cadel Evans Great Ocean Road Race
Michael Matthews - 1st Herald Sun Tour, Stage win
Daryl Impey, 6h Dubai Tour
Michael Albasini - 1st Tour of Qatar (Bonus seconds from sprints)
And as it stands in Oman: Pieter Weening, 7th GC and Stage win. Esteban Chaces 6th GC. 
Also found a ridiculously good regen.
Started out with 68MO, 67HI, 74TT. Will be MINE! 
Manager of Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska in the PCM.Daily Man-Game |
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| skylax |
Posted on 26-06-2015 09:22
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Jesleyh wrote:
Yes you can now select specific dates for simulation. You can only do that for 4 weeks though, if I recall correctly.
I can confirm this. For anybody who wonders how it works (because documentation or even a simple game guide offered by Cyanide is utter bullshit - what the hell is the gel for? I still couldn't figure out for several years in a row): in career mode main menu press Tab and the calendar opens up. Then select the desired date (maximum 4 weeks ahead of time) and simulation begins and won't stop unless anything requires your immediate attention.
lachi wrote:
For me the career stays unplayable even after fixing the bugs. That whole mode is a big annoyance because I am not only forced to cope with the silly implementations of scouting, equipment R&D, sponsor objectives, season planning and riders objectives. On top I will waste my time being fooled by stupid AI if I play stages in 3D.
@Lachi, I can feel your pain. I don't see it as drastically as you do, for me the career of 14-iteration was playable (certainly not free of bugs, full of balancing issues, the AI was mostly solid though).
I can't say I like the new changes that much. The new scouting system does make less sense then the last one. I don't see any difference between legendary scouts (potential range of 5-8, 4-7 etc) and unknown ones (pretty much the same range). That is a bug. I thought, the longer I had riders on my team, the more scouts would find out about them (exact potential, maybe even limits for certain stats) and legendary scouts would be much faster than regional ones. Nope, can't say I found a difference with 3 test careers simulated until July.
The scouting of riders became completely automated and arbitrary. You just hire scouts and they start...well scouting people. No influence whatsoever, except for this intensive scouting of youth riders that seems completely useless (JULY! first season). The estimation of the potential doesn't change, there is no feedback from scouts, there is even just one possibility during the year (until July) to scout people and I somehow managed to select the wrong rider.
Season planning is a clickfest hell, which is due to awful UI design. I am pretty sure that those people at Cyanide don't play their career mode, otherwise they would have found out by now that you either have to write all sponsor objectives down on a sheet of paper next to the rider's goals to be able to figure out a halfway decent plan. I have been doing this for almost 10 years now when they decided that rider's form actually matters in PCM 2005. On the plus side: they did manage to give a quick overlook of how a stage race is composed. So at least you don't have to skip between sponsor goal page, rider objectives and the planning page to scroll through the stages to find out whether the Tour of Fjords you are supposed to win is composed of only flat stages or whether you better send someone with hill-skills to do the job.
Of course, the implementation of the U23-team doesn't make much sense either. Ok, so you create a team and random riders/regens are allocated to the team with no input on the user's part (Oh yeah, you can "determine" whether you want to search world-wide and put an emphasis on stage racers or whatever...not that it made any difference, I selected "country" instead of regional or world-wide and 1/2 of my team was still of foreign descent). Then those riders participate at races...at least I think. There is no interaction, no feedback. I have to scroll through the planning page in order to find out which races they participated at, then have to scroll through the result pages, select the races I remember them to race in and have to sort the list of stages by team in order to get an idea of how they did. Oh yeah, that is very interesting.
The design of the game is flawed and the people at Cyanide have proven to not be able to implement a basic manager part into a game that features management in its name. They are pretty good at graphics and building an arcade game, but the management is broken beyond repair. It has to be redone by people who know the basics of a streamlined and yet informative UI (btw, the UI in races is horrible as well, the scaling is horrendous) and who have a basic understanding of what management actually is.
I don't even like the be-a-pro mode. It is boring and superficial as hell to me. This might be appealing to everyone who wants to see his/her digital impersonation winning the TdF without cheating the rider into the game via an editor. In career mode at least you can control different riders on different terrain to make the game interesting on flat as well as on mountain stages.
tl;dr: Cyanide sucks, the game is seriously flawed in details and yet a little fun if you can ignore the design issues, new features are horrendously implemented, won't be better in the future
Edited by skylax on 26-06-2015 09:26
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| Sletti |
Posted on 26-06-2015 20:53
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Possible to play on mac?
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| Lachi |
Posted on 27-06-2015 00:03
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Sletti wrote:
Possible to play on mac?
A mac is a computer like any other computer. You can run the game if you install Windows on it. |
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| rosni |
Posted on 29-06-2015 05:28
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7thGalaxy wrote:
Hi Lachi - I'm getting an error - gene_workplan is neither a DataColumn nor a DataRelation for table DYN_cyclist.
This happens when initially loading a new save
I had this error when using the 2013 edition. I have had no issues with the updated one so far and that new interface is great thank you Lachi. I am yet to reload it back to the game though.
UPDATE - I have now installed the Expansion Pack, when trying to load on the Planner, it starts off and then gives the error message: An error occurred - Invalid character in the given encoding. Line 688111, position 23.
Edited by rosni on 29-06-2015 06:31
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| Lachi |
Posted on 29-06-2015 09:57
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rosni wrote:
7thGalaxy wrote:
Hi Lachi - I'm getting an error - gene_workplan is neither a DataColumn nor a DataRelation for table DYN_cyclist.
This happens when initially loading a new save
I had this error when using the 2013 edition. I have had no issues with the updated one so far and that new interface is great thank you Lachi. I am yet to reload it back to the game though.
UPDATE - I have now installed the Expansion Pack, when trying to load on the Planner, it starts off and then gives the error message: An error occurred - Invalid character in the given encoding. Line 688111, position 23.
This is a known problem with many databases. Apparently the game messes up some databases when you start a career. I recommend that you contact Cyanide and send them the database and your save. |
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| skylax |
Posted on 29-06-2015 14:18
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Another workaround for the problem descriped in your update would be to open the save-file with pcm fast editor and open the dyn_track_cyclist database. There you change all the special characters to ordinary ones or just give the track riders fantasy names.
EDIT: Pls send the save-file to Cyanide anyways. This workaround can't be the solution. They, once again, f'ed up and should fix that.
Edited by skylax on 29-06-2015 14:22
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| Cmknudsen |
Posted on 29-06-2015 21:33
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Hi.. i have made an problem for myself. I started a game with Bardiani, it´s fine, but without knowing the consequences i made the most expensive u/23 team. This mean that i am on the merge of bankruptcy in august. Can anyone tell me, how i can change my balance with Lachi? i am not a total newbi(but close to it)... i hope you can help me, because i like this game. Even though i haven¨t had massive success, i won 3 stages at the giro and won the Italian championship.. i just "finished" signing riders for the next season, soo would very much like to get to play further, than to the end of next month.
// I´ve found a solution
Edited by Cmknudsen on 30-06-2015 12:25
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| jnz_1989 |
Posted on 30-06-2015 00:27
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After a while deciding with which team i'd start a career I eventually settled on Cannondale-Garmin. Normally I play with Tinkoff or Movistar but I wanted to try something new.
I like the squad. A good mixture between young and experienced riders makes this a good challenge. In the calendar selection I made sure I had races for all tastes and likes. Eventually I ended up with much more races than I'm used too but worths the challenge.
So it would be like this:
Talansky - A good early season (PN, Catalunya and Basque Country) mixed with Tour and the Vuelta. Something similar to Contador in 2014. Ofc not all of this with max peak;
Hesjedal - Giro and late races in September;
Martin - Ardennes, Califórnia (sponsor objective) and Lombardia. I've opted to not make him race any GT to be totally peaked for Ardennes and Lombardia. Next year it would be something different;
Moser, Slagter, Formolo and others will have other races to shine.
I expect this to be quite fun and full of attack throughout the year with good chances to have success.
Also I've started the development of the u23 team and started to look to new talents.
Will report more after the first races. I opted to do this kind of stuff because I don't have a PC with good graphical stuff so the pics won't be great to start a proper story.
Cheers!
Edited by jnz_1989 on 30-06-2015 00:28
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| lukie1478523 |
Posted on 30-06-2015 11:54
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Lachi wrote:
7thGalaxy wrote:
One quality of life thing that would save so much time would be merging the rider objectives and scheduling screens, or at the least, not showing any races on the rider objective screens, that are not valid for the team to take part in.
If you try and sign a rider who has objectives that your team aren't going to be able to fulfil then they should probably refuse to join you.
The objectives take absolutely ages to set up properly, and I'm not even convinced that they do much good. It's just not much fun, and I wish they had improved the interface for this year.
Do you mean something like this:
I have updated my planner for PCM 2015 but I don't have the game so I cannot tell if it works (especially how it would work for the Be-A-Pro mode). But you are free to test it.
What do you mean with ' you have to create at least one group in the game'? |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 03-07-2015 00:52
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Hope its okay to post this here.
Been playing a lot of PCM08 lately. I have a career with Saunier Duval going, and in the first season I had Ricco and Piepoli as my leaders. Ricco won the Giro and came 6th at the Tour. The 2nd season I signed several strong riders, like Sella and Pardilla and Im not sure how, but they just keep growing. Pardilla was 79 MO at the start of season 2, Ricco was 81 MO at the start of Season 1 and 2.
Now Ricco is the best climber in my career for sure, and somehow half my team has developed into being capable of Top 5ing a GT.
To put it into perspective, here are the best climbers in the game (I have 6 riders in the Top 12..)
Now in season 2, I decided to send Sella and Piepoli to the Giro, and Sella came 5th after being in 2nd for almost the entire race.
My plan was to send Ricco to the Tour but he got injured at the Tour de Suisse and luckily Pardilla was in great shape too (he was only 80 MO I think and then just randomly grew to 82 right before the Tour making him a podium contender) and Pardilla came 3rd at the Tour, so that was lucky.
So I planned to have Ricco ride the Vuelta to get him a Grand Tour. He absolutely annihilated the competition and was going to win the Vuelta by 6 minutes and the KOM as well, but he crashed on the final stage...... 
With the team I had, it was a huge failure to not win a GT, and now I will have Piepoli and Cobo leaving because they were unhappy with me for not getting enough chances to lead.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 03-07-2015 00:55
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Wow the memories....thanks for sharing!
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 03-07-2015 00:58
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no Thomas Dekker? isn't he auto beats in developed careers
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