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Giro d'Italia 2009
Alesle
issoisso wrote:
In what dreamworld was Cunego exceptional? :lol:

He took the maglia rosa in a breakaway in the mountains, then held on in the two remaining mountain stages.

In fact, he didn't hold on in both. on the stage to Bormio, a bunch of contenders came to the finish together and he won the sprint on the flat.

Then on the final mountain stage he got dropped on each of the first two climbs, but his teammates brought him back on the flat each time.

Then he got dropped again on the very easy final climb, recovered a lot on the descent, and was still a minute behind by the finish.

If Popovych got into a breakaway today and won the stage by 10 minutes and took the maglia rosa, then hung on to barely win the Giro, that would be the exact same situation.....except no one would go "ZOMG POPOVYCH IZ TEH NEW STAR" like they did in 2004 with Cunego.

Tbf he didn't get 10 minutes in the breakaway, more like 3. All your points are still valid though. He ows huge thanks to Mazzoleni and Spezialetti (iirc), and for having the strongest climber (Simoni) as his teammate.
 
Il Grillo
In Bormio 2000 he won the sprint, yes, but if you watched the stage you could see he was by far the strongest on that climb. I put him in comparison to the 2009 Cunego and 2004 Simoni. Simoni overall wasnt stronger in the mountains then Cunego.
And if i remember correct, on the last mountainstage Simoni attaced pretty early on the first climb, so Cunego didnt get dropped, he just didnt followed an attack at the beginning of the stage. Cunego had a decent year 2004, exceptional was the wrong word, english is not my first language you know. 19 wins for Cunego in 2004 speak for themselves.
 
issoisso
Il Grillo wrote:
In Bormio 2000 he won the sprint, yes, but if you watched the stage you could see he was by far the strongest on that climb.


He was yo-yoing off the back. If the climb was a little bit harder he'd be dropped.

Il Grillo wrote:
I put him in comparison to the 2009 Cunego and 2004 Simoni. Simoni overall wasnt stronger in the mountains then Cunego.


It's pretty obvious to me that Simoni was much stronger.

Il Grillo wrote:
And if i remember correct, on the last mountainstage Simoni attaced pretty early on the first climb, so Cunego didnt get dropped, he just didnt followed an attack at the beginning of the stage.


He followed. On all climbs. He was dropped on all of them but was brought back by Mazzoleni, Tonti, and the rest of the Saeco train.

Il Grillo wrote:
Cunego had a decent year 2004, exceptional was the wrong word, english is not my first language you know. 19 wins for Cunego in 2004 speak for themselves.


No one questioned Cunego's year. People questioned Cunego's climbing. he was never a top climber. ever.

And english isn't my first language either, you know.
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Guido Mukk
Il Grillo wrote:
I put him in comparison to the 2009 Cunego and 2004 Simoni. Simoni overall wasnt stronger in the mountains then Cunego.


and eather I can not accept that one...Gibo was much better climber..( irony s that he still probably is better at the moment when Gibo is 37 and Cunego 27..Smile)
Edited by Guido Mukk on 27-05-2009 15:31
 
Guido Mukk
Ok..climb has started?
6km shorter..but still ..This is gonna be great..
Edited by Guido Mukk on 27-05-2009 15:39
 
schleck93
Seems that Cervelo is gonna lauch an attack with sastre today Smile
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Juan
Sastre ftw today ! (ok, i put my money on him, so...Pfft )
 
wackojackohighcliffe
what jersey is voeckler wearing?

 
Guido Mukk
Ouch Deignan
 
schleck93
What just happend to Deignan, didn't see it?
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CrueTrue
1 km to the mountain Grin
 
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Deignan crashed during the corner.
 
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Juan
Poor Cervélo, Wyss in Catalunya, Deignan in Giro.
This one was bad Shock
 
Guido Mukk
Liquigas will take over..great stage..so many teams like to control..
Lance will leave Levi today?
Edited by Guido Mukk on 27-05-2009 15:53
 
Waghlon
So, the giro huh?
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Juan
Here goes the climb Smile
 
Guido Mukk
Juan wrote:
Here goes the climb Smile


Niiiiccceee!
 
CrueTrue
Guido Mukk wrote:
Liquigas will take over..great stage..so many teams like to control..
Lance will leave Levi today?


I think Lance will go for the stage win today.
 
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schleck93
Pellizoti and Lance attacks Shock
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Guido Mukk
CrueTrue wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Liquigas will take over..great stage..so many teams like to control..
Lance will leave Levi today?


I think Lance will go for the stage win today.


and here he is..Smile
 
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