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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 26-05-2009 22:07
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Biathlon wrote:
Tour de France didnt work. Giro d'Italia didnt work.. Next season he have to give everything for the Vuelta then..
Must be real reality check for Lampre and Cunego ..when old guy Bruseghin is best GT rider in the team.. |
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| ursul |
Posted on 26-05-2009 22:12
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It is sure. |
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| Rui_Costa |
Posted on 26-05-2009 22:17
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Bruseghin is in the top 20 in the GC?
And what about Cunego what his is GC?
Edited by Rui_Costa on 26-05-2009 22:18
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| hakab |
Posted on 26-05-2009 22:23
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11 Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) Lampre - N.G.C. 9.27
16 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre - N.G.C. 14.29
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 26-05-2009 22:23
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Rui_Costa wrote:
Bruseghin is in the top 20 in the GC?
And what about Cunego what his is GC?
11 Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) Lampre - N.G.C. 9.27
16 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre - N.G.C. 14.29
well 5 places is not much..but that means 5minutes,,this is hugh
Edited by Guido Mukk on 26-05-2009 22:24
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| Rui_Costa |
Posted on 26-05-2009 22:29
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Cunego was a doper when he used to win, so now is clean is just "too ba" comparng to before, so 5 minutes is a lot, yes, but it could be more |
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 26-05-2009 22:37
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Camon people why do you keep expecting Cunego to really do great at a GT? He's a classics rider that's where you should really count on him!
Everyday I become more convinced his climbing skills are greatly overrated... and his timetrialing his even worse...
I like Cunego and I hope someday he puts in a performance that's capable of awarding him a result somehow near the one he achieved in 04 but I find it quite unlikely
Anyway he has some reasonable results this year so I think "disgrace" is a little exagerated
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| niconico |
Posted on 26-05-2009 23:16
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Dan_Grr wrote:
What does Cunego has to show except for his salarie? Is he a disgrace?
Cunego is not a disgrace. He's an incredible rider, who has his priorities wrong. That's it.
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| chrica04 |
Posted on 27-05-2009 01:10
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Cunego could win most hilly classics, again as everyone says...needs to prioritize. |
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Posted on 27-05-2009 02:33
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So, here's the question
Over/Under on 1.5 GT wins for Cunego in his career
I say under |
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| Speedtrash |
Posted on 27-05-2009 07:59
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OK, once again.....Sastre wins today  |
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| ruben |
Posted on 27-05-2009 10:40
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Cunego is a classics rider, who once won a Giro, because of a stronger teammate, a perfect route (many middle mountains instead of hard mountains) and weak opposition (Gonchar, McGee, Cioni in top 10). And now thinks he is a great GC rider, which he is not, he is a classics specialist. |
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Posted on 27-05-2009 11:25
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Does anyone see di luca cracking today as i think he might due to the length of the climb. Also i hope sastre does what he did on alp d'huez but cant see it happening he could get the stage though but only by 30-40secs max. He cant have two of the bests day of his career in the space of less than a year can he?? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 27-05-2009 11:32
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Ad wrote:
Does anyone see di luca cracking today as i think he might due to the length of the climb.
Possible.
Ad wrote:
Also i hope sastre does what he did on alp d'huez but cant see it happening he could get the stage though but only by 30-40secs max. He cant have two of the bests day of his career in the space of less than a year can he??
Alpe d'Huez was not an extraordinary performance. It was tactics. He's been at that level 2 other times in his career: 2006 Tour and 2007 Vuelta.
Unless someone really blows up (yesterday was a rest day), the differences will be small. A scant few seconds.
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Posted on 27-05-2009 12:50
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Yes it was tactics but do you think anyone else could have got a 2min win on alp d'huez. Personally i dont think so. I really hope di luca cracks though. As a high tempo might drop him as he probably is betterat steeper climbs with his acceleration. Maybe valjavec (cant spell) could win the stage if he attacks early as he didnt do to badly yesterday. I hope sastre does tho  |
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| niconico |
Posted on 27-05-2009 13:50
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Deadpool wrote:
So, here's the question
Over/Under on 1.5 GT wins for Cunego in his career
I say under
Definitely under. Ruben explained how he did it back in the days, and that situation won't present itself for him again.
I'll go as far as saying he will never do a Top 10 result in the Tour de France and a new Giro podium seems extremely unlikely.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 27-05-2009 14:04
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https://www.raisport.rai.it/dl/raispor...aGiro.html
here we go.. |
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| Il Grillo |
Posted on 27-05-2009 14:14
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Ruben wrote:
Cunego is a classics rider, who once won a Giro, because of a stronger teammate, a perfect route (many middle mountains instead of hard mountains) and weak opposition (Gonchar, McGee, Cioni in top 10). And now thinks he is a great GC rider, which he is not, he is a classics specialist.
Ah well thats why he won Stage 18 Bormio 2000 and the Dolomite stage.
I was exceptional in 2004 much better then Simoni in the really hard and high mountains. And much better then today. He hust developed more in a classic rider from then on, more muscle mass, more explosive. So he lost ability at the long hard climbs. He also added 3-5kg, presumably mostly muscles, since 2004.
But still the opposition wasnt really strong either. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 27-05-2009 14:26
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In what dreamworld was Cunego exceptional? 
He took the maglia rosa in a breakaway in the mountains, then held on in the two remaining mountain stages.
In fact, he didn't hold on in both. on the stage to Bormio, a bunch of contenders came to the finish together and he won the sprint on the flat.
Then on the final mountain stage he got dropped on each of the first two climbs, but his teammates brought him back on the flat each time.
Then he got dropped again on the very easy final climb, recovered a lot on the descent, and was still a minute behind by the finish.
If Popovych got into a breakaway today and won the stage by 10 minutes and took the maglia rosa, then hung on to barely win the Giro, that would be the exact same situation.....except no one would go "ZOMG POPOVYCH IZ TEH NEW STAR" like they did in 2004 with Cunego.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 27-05-2009 14:35
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Masciarelli , Visconti and Cardenas is few intresting names in the breakaway group..
Edited by Guido Mukk on 27-05-2009 14:36
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