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| sutty68 |
Posted on 23-07-2014 23:39
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To be fair, who the hell would want to take Andy Schleck on with his recent record  |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 24-07-2014 06:26
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Naskela wrote:
Im not so sure, you see how he struggles for a stage win now with a team working for him, he is not even the top 5 sprinter in my eyes, even the green jersey will be a problem for him if he don't sort out his sprinting soon, ..
Wut Sir?
Are you talking here about that man, who is 170points in front of anyone else in green jersey competition? 
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 24-07-2014 12:45
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Naskela wrote:
Im not so sure, you see how he struggles for a stage win now with a team working for him, he is not even the top 5 sprinter in my eyes, even the green jersey will be a problem for him if he don't sort out his sprinting soon, ..
Wut Sir?
Are you talking here about that man, who is 170points in front of anyone else in green jersey competition?
still without a stage win 
and if keeps getting worse at sprinting then he won't be able to scrap points together so easily next year. (Sagan last year was able to win sprints, this year sagan is not.)
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 24-07-2014 12:51
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He doesn't need to win sprints. He's far too versatile for anyone to challenge him.
Actually only Kristoff and Degenkolb have a chance against him, but Degen is already out of equation with Kittel in the team.
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| samdiatmh |
Posted on 24-07-2014 14:18
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Alakagom wrote:
He doesn't need to win sprints. He's far too versatile for anyone to challenge him.
this
for someone who's apparently getting "worse" at sprinting and is less and less likely to win the green jersey, he's actually got more points now than compared to last year (despite having less wins)
I personally think he's got the green wrapped up for about the next 5 years (unless the likes of EBH or Degenkolb move teams) |
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 24-07-2014 14:47
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samdiatmh wrote:
I personally think he's got the green wrapped up for about the next 5 years (unless the likes of EBH or Degenkolb move teams)
Or Matthews doesn't get injured a few days before the race... |
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| Naskela |
Posted on 24-07-2014 14:59
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Or Matthews doesn't get injured a few days before the race...
Exactly, if he gets ready for the tour next year i think Sagan will have more than enough problem scraping points. He got a better team around him in the sprints and the mountains and is a better sprinter in my opinion and if Coquard steps up and take stage wins Sagan would not be that safe.
Wut Sir?
Are you talking here about that man, who is 170points in front of anyone else in green jersey competition?
Im just saying his sprinting is not like it was last year and if it continues to decline he will have problems in the future 
Edited by Naskela on 24-07-2014 15:03
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 24-07-2014 15:04
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What evidence is there that Matthews is a better sprinter than Sagann? I see none by checking their results for past two years.
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 24-07-2014 16:03
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samdiatmh wrote:
I personally think he's got the green wrapped up for about the next 5 years (unless the likes of EBH or Degenkolb move teams)
...or ASO changes the points rule again in order to have more than one rider going after it.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 25-07-2014 00:54
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Atlantius wrote:
samdiatmh wrote:
I personally think he's got the green wrapped up for about the next 5 years (unless the likes of EBH or Degenkolb move teams)
...or ASO changes the points rule again in order to have more than one rider going after it.
Like, only stage winners get points and domination is over. 
But yeah, I'm with you: I suppose ASO will have to change the rules in the coming years again. They can't be happy with having basically no real competition in one of their prestigious classifications. But then again, I remember green jersey always being a rather dull affair except for very few exceptions. With Erik Zabel, I basically grew up having a dominating green jersey rider, much like Sagan.
How would a ASO rule change look like? Points along the road are fine for Sagan but the guy got 7 straight Top 5s in first week. I think you'd have to overemphatize stage wins if you wanted to make Points Jersey a more interesting competition, however this also runs risk of getting a domination, for example if Kittel kicks butt and Sagan drops out early.
It's also sorta weird to make rule changes so a single rider has it a bit more difficult to win the classification.
Guess only guys like Degenstache or Kristolini can bring excitement in this competition by making it a priority, but they care more for stage wins anywayz.
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 25-07-2014 00:56
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Shonak wrote:
Guess only guys like Degenstache or Kristilini can bring excitement in this competition by making it a priority, but they care more for stage wins anywayz.
fixed your post
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| Shonak |
Posted on 25-07-2014 01:01
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Guess only guys like Degenstache or Kristilini can bring excitement in this competition by making it a priority, but they care more for stage wins anywayz.
fixed your post
That name sounds like the little douchey brother of Krillin.
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 25-07-2014 01:04
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Shonak wrote:
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Guess only guys like Degenstache or Kristilini can bring excitement in this competition by making it a priority, but they care more for stage wins anywayz.
fixed your post
That name sounds like the little douchey brother of Krillin.
well Kristoff's name according to the fantasy betting is Kristiff
and that's impossible, Krillin is already the biggest douche there is 
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-07-2014 01:07
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Shonak wrote:
Atlantius wrote:
samdiatmh wrote:
I personally think he's got the green wrapped up for about the next 5 years (unless the likes of EBH or Degenkolb move teams)
...or ASO changes the points rule again in order to have more than one rider going after it.
Like, only stage winners get points and domination is over.
But yeah, I'm with you: I suppose ASO will have to change the rules in the coming years again. They can't be happy with having basically no real competition in one of their prestigious classifications. But then again, I remember green jersey always being a rather dull affair except for very few exceptions. With Erik Zabel, I basically grew up having a dominating green jersey rider, much like Sagan.
How would a ASO rule change look like? Points along the road are fine for Sagan but the guy got 7 straight Top 5s in first week. I think you'd have to overemphatize stage wins if you wanted to make Points Jersey a more interesting competition, however this also runs risk of getting a domination, for example if Kittel kicks butt and Sagan drops out early.
It's also sorta weird to make rule changes so a single rider has it a bit more difficult to win the classification.
Guess only guys like Degenstache or Kristolini can bring excitement in this competition by making it a priority, but they care more for stage wins anywayz.
Sagan blew out a massive lead early on because he claimed something like 60 points in the first 4 days from the intermediate sprints alone since no one else seemed to care about them. If a larger portion of points were at the finish then he probably wouldn't have an insurmountable lead over everyone else, and just a "small lead"
Also they could make it like F1 double on the last day
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 25-07-2014 01:26
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I don't think much would change even if they raise amount of points on the finish line. I mean, just look at his results this TdF:
2, 4, 2, 4, 4, 5, 2, 9, 2, 3 on sprinting and hilly stages.
That's honestly just too good for anyone else. I think no matter how much they change the rules (unless it's something ridiculous like only stage winner getting points or something like that), he'll remain first Green jersey contender in at least next 3-5 years. But seems like people here dislikes him because of his cocky behaviour (which is one of the main reasons I like him) and they'll try absolutely everything to prove he's not one of the best sprinters in the world of cycling and probably the best all-arounder, as well.
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 25-07-2014 01:38
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admirschleck wrote:
But seems like people here dislikes him because of his cocky behaviour (which is one of the main reasons I like him) and they'll try absolutely everything to prove he's not one of the best sprinters in the world of cycling and probably the best all-arounder, as well.
he's not on the level Kittel, Cavendish which are the best sprinters in the world. in my based opinion just below the second group as well (Greipel, Coquard, Demare, Bouhanni) but realisticly speaking, propably just above these guys.
so best of the rest is a better discription for Sagan as sprinter. I don't want to speak about him as a all-arounder
edit: christ this is the transfer season topic, I'm way of topic now 
Edited by SSJ2Luigi on 25-07-2014 01:39
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| Naskela |
Posted on 25-07-2014 02:02
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Since you guys are off topic i try change it back to topic again
Ahlstrand cycling for Cofidis next season great lead out man for Bouhanni, not sure if its mentioned before! And where is Andy Schleck going?
Edited by Naskela on 25-07-2014 02:06
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 25-07-2014 02:05
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Naskela wrote:
And where is Andy Schleck going?
Definitely not to a team that won't be invited to the Tour de France
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| Naskela |
Posted on 25-07-2014 02:08
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alexkr00 wrote:
Naskela wrote:
And where is Andy Schleck going?
Definitely not to a team that won't be invited to the Tour de France
I don't see any teams who is willing to pay for him besides maybe Skydive dubai... and i doubt Trek are giving him another chance.
Edited by Naskela on 25-07-2014 02:15
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| samdiatmh |
Posted on 25-07-2014 03:37
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how about somewhere weird like Greenedge, given that (I think) they're looking for a GC contender anyway, and Schleck could provide some decent mountain support |
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