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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-09-2012 22:05
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Mountain TT for 2014 was a certainty, but now the Worlds may not happen there.
And of course with McQuaid orgasming over anglophones he's pushing hard to get it changed to yorkshire.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 20-09-2012 22:05
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/...g/19667752
dont quite know how the BBC has news other sources dont, so this may be really old, or bullshit
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 20-09-2012 22:11
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TheManxMissile wrote:
etc. Would allow all types of rider a chance every 5 years. Some riders would have more chances like Cancellara, Boonen, Schleck types who can do several things.
Same with the ITT. Have some variation like combine an MTT with a Flat RR (where possible). Hilly TT's (properly, not like once over the Cauberg) and TT's over cobbles. May mean we see different winners more often.
Say whaaaat? 
Schleck can do one thing: climb. He's useless at everything else.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 20-09-2012 22:17
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Schleck can do one thing: climb. He's useless at everything else.
Didnt he win LBL.... They can climb and do hilly... was the first name that popped in... How about Valverde or Puriot then?
Cancellara, cobbles, some hills, flat
Boonen, flat, cobbles
Purito, mountains, hills
just in case anyone was confused
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 20-09-2012 22:41
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Schleck can do one thing: climb. He's useless at everything else.
Didnt he win LBL.... They can climb and do hilly... was the first name that popped in... How about Valverde or Puriot then?
Cancellara, cobbles, some hills, flat
Boonen, flat, cobbles
Purito, mountains, hills
just in case anyone was confused
Schleck is a good hilly rider, but thats just short climbs, and he's not really the best at them. Plus, I think he attacked on a flat and stayed away in his win, if that means anything (I can only recall from watching on youtbue)
Valverde and Purito are climbers (mo and hil) and they both have pretty decent sprints too. Purito I would say, is one of the Top 5 hilly riders in the world.
Boonen is even pretty good on hills as well.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 20-09-2012 22:50
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Boonen is even pretty good on hills as well.
Only in the short and not extremely hard Flanders hills. In a hard hilly course Boonen has no chance, and I guess that was the point.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 21-09-2012 09:18
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I think PCM Daily should overthrow UCI, clearly there are people here who would do a much better job 
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| kumazan |
Posted on 21-09-2012 15:49
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Routes for the 2013 Worlds have been unveiled. It really looks very good. 
https://www.toscan...
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| jph27 |
Posted on 21-09-2012 15:56
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issoisso wrote:
Mountain TT for 2014 was a certainty, but now the Worlds may not happen there.
And of course with McQuaid orgasming over anglophones he's pushing hard to get it changed to yorkshire.
I'm not complaining, World Championships in my backyard? Yes please. |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 21-09-2012 15:59
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jph27 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Mountain TT for 2014 was a certainty, but now the Worlds may not happen there.
And of course with McQuaid orgasming over anglophones he's pushing hard to get it changed to yorkshire.
I'm not complaining, World Championships in my backyard? Yes please.
The 2015 Richmond races will essentially be in my backyard (a couple hours south of DC by car)...except I'll be at college. Fuck. I'll probably take the train down for the weekend though.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 21-09-2012 15:59
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kumazan wrote:
Routes for the 2013 Worlds have been unveiled. It really looks very good.
https://www.toscan...
That should be a very exciting course. First the longer climb to Fiesole, then a short, brutal ramp up Via Salviati.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 21-09-2012 16:01
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kumazan wrote:
Routes for the 2013 Worlds have been unveiled. It really looks very good.
https://www.toscan...
bloody boring is all i can say.
Too few climbs for there to be a real selection, easy to dig deeper to hang on. Sagan type rider will win. Someone who can get over a hill and sprint. Maybe a sprinter like Rojas or Hushovd with a chance.
Either make it really hilly, mountainous etc. Dont do this...
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| kumazan |
Posted on 21-09-2012 16:03
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TheManxMissile wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Routes for the 2013 Worlds have been unveiled. It really looks very good.
https://www.toscan...
bloody boring is all i can say.
Too few climbs for there to be a real selection, easy to dig deeper to hang on. Sagan type rider will win. Someone who can get over a hill and sprint. Maybe a sprinter like Rojas or Hushovd with a chance.
Either make it really hilly, mountainous etc. Dont do this...
WTF. That route is like a lot harder than this year's. *facepalm*
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 21-09-2012 16:03
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TheManxMissile wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Routes for the 2013 Worlds have been unveiled. It really looks very good.
https://www.toscan...
bloody boring is all i can say.
Too few climbs for there to be a real selection, easy to dig deeper to hang on. Sagan type rider will win. Someone who can get over a hill and sprint. Maybe a sprinter like Rojas or Hushovd with a chance.
Either make it really hilly, mountainous etc. Dont do this...
Depends on how the race plays out. If a powerhouse teams settles on the front and guns it, they'll be a hell of a selection. If it's cat and mouse, I agree, we'll see a good sized group, and Sagan or a like will win. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 21-09-2012 16:06
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Deadpool wrote:
Depends on how the race plays out. If a powerhouse teams settles on the front and guns it, they'll be a hell of a selection. If it's cat and mouse, I agree, we'll see a good sized group, and Sagan or a like will win.
I dont see a team that will be willing and able to do that
Spain are always to selfish. Italy arent good enough. Sagan is alone. France isnt quite good enough. Belgium may be able to, but it all depends on day form for the supporting riders.
I dont see it being that good... But i hope i'm wrong
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 21-09-2012 16:09
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
etc. Would allow all types of rider a chance every 5 years. Some riders would have more chances like Cancellara, Boonen, Schleck types who can do several things.
Same with the ITT. Have some variation like combine an MTT with a Flat RR (where possible). Hilly TT's (properly, not like once over the Cauberg) and TT's over cobbles. May mean we see different winners more often.
Say whaaaat?
Schleck can do one thing: climb. He's useless at everything else.
Schleck has done one race on cobbles...and finished in the front group with Hushovd, Cancellara, Geraint Thomas, and former MTBer Ryder Hesdejal. Granted that was a weird stage, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was actually a reasonable cobbles rider. Contador as well.
TheManxMissile wrote:
[quote]Deadpool wrote:
Depends on how the race plays out. If a powerhouse teams settles on the front and guns it, they'll be a hell of a selection. If it's cat and mouse, I agree, we'll see a good sized group, and Sagan or a like will win.
I dont see a team that will be willing and able to do that
Spain are always to selfish. Italy arent good enough. Sagan is alone. France isnt quite good enough. Belgium may be able to, but it all depends on day form for the supporting riders.
I dont see it being that good... But i hope i'm wrong[/quote
You have no idea what the teams will look like in two years.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 21-09-2012 16:11
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Depends on how the race plays out. If a powerhouse teams settles on the front and guns it, they'll be a hell of a selection. If it's cat and mouse, I agree, we'll see a good sized group, and Sagan or a like will win.
I dont see a team that will be willing and able to do that
Spain are always to selfish. Italy arent good enough. Sagan is alone. France isnt quite good enough. Belgium may be able to, but it all depends on day form for the supporting riders.
I dont see it being that good... But i hope i'm wrong
Seriously, look closer at the route. It's the hardest Worlds route since god knows when. Maybe since Duitama.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 21-09-2012 16:14
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kumazan wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Depends on how the race plays out. If a powerhouse teams settles on the front and guns it, they'll be a hell of a selection. If it's cat and mouse, I agree, we'll see a good sized group, and Sagan or a like will win.
I dont see a team that will be willing and able to do that
Spain are always to selfish. Italy arent good enough. Sagan is alone. France isnt quite good enough. Belgium may be able to, but it all depends on day form for the supporting riders.
I dont see it being that good... But i hope i'm wrong
Seriously, look closer at the route. It's the hardest Worlds route since god knows when. Maybe since Duitama.
How, a 5km long climb at a mid percentage, and a short bump with a max ramp of only 12%?
It probably is one of the hardest in a while, but that isn't saying much, and what appears to be the consistency of that longer climber, combined with the shortness of the real kicker, makes me think it'll be difficult for anyone to get away late. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 21-09-2012 16:19
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Deadpool wrote:
kumazan wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Depends on how the race plays out. If a powerhouse teams settles on the front and guns it, they'll be a hell of a selection. If it's cat and mouse, I agree, we'll see a good sized group, and Sagan or a like will win.
I dont see a team that will be willing and able to do that
Spain are always to selfish. Italy arent good enough. Sagan is alone. France isnt quite good enough. Belgium may be able to, but it all depends on day form for the supporting riders.
I dont see it being that good... But i hope i'm wrong
Seriously, look closer at the route. It's the hardest Worlds route since god knows when. Maybe since Duitama.
How, a 5km long climb at a mid percentage, and a short bump with a max ramp of only 12%?
It probably is one of the hardest in a while, but that isn't saying much, and what appears to be the consistency of that longer climber, combined with the shortness of the real kicker, makes me think it'll be difficult for anyone to get away late.
Fiesole is over 4km @6%, but it gets harder at the end, the last 2km are around 8%. Both smaller bumps have steep slopes as well. Repeat that 10 times in a 280km route and it's a killer.
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| depeche92 |
Posted on 21-09-2012 16:23
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TheManxMissile wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Routes for the 2013 Worlds have been unveiled. It really looks very good.
https://www.toscan...
bloody boring is all i can say.
Too few climbs for there to be a real selection, easy to dig deeper to hang on. Sagan type rider will win. Someone who can get over a hill and sprint. Maybe a sprinter like Rojas or Hushovd with a chance.
Either make it really hilly, mountainous etc. Dont do this...
looool are you blind?
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