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Giro d'Italia 2012 - Week 2
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 15-05-2012 19:40
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Slagter was amazing..little stupid..but realy strong.
My thoughts exactly. I see him,in a couple of years, joining Rabobank's elite group of young supertalents that despite being incredibly talented, will never actually win anything in the big stage.
Pellizotti2 wrote:
The favourites who lost time today (on the favourite group) were:
Cunego - 6s
Rujano - 9s
Schleck - 20s
No doubt that Schleck suffered today.
Who the hell still considers Cunego a favourite? After all these years of consecutive failures in GTs, I still can't believe that there's still someone who can consider him a man for the GC.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 15-05-2012 19:48
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Gustavovskiy wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Slagter was amazing..little stupid..but realy strong.
My thoughts exactly. I see him,in a couple of years, joining Rabobank's elite group of young supertalents that despite being incredibly talented, will never actually win anything in the big stage.
Pellizotti2 wrote:
The favourites who lost time today (on the favourite group) were:
Cunego - 6s
Rujano - 9s
Schleck - 20s
No doubt that Schleck suffered today.
Who the hell still considers Cunego a favourite? After all these years of consecutive failures in GTs, I still can't believe that there's still someone who can consider him a man for the GC.
Because he's the best of the Tour finishers last year apart from Frank Schleck, who is here. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 15-05-2012 19:50
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Gustavovskiy wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Slagter was amazing..little stupid..but realy strong.
My thoughts exactly. I see him,in a couple of years, joining Rabobank's elite group of young supertalents that despite being incredibly talented, will never actually win anything in the big stage.
Pellizotti2 wrote:
The favourites who lost time today (on the favourite group) were:
Cunego - 6s
Rujano - 9s
Schleck - 20s
No doubt that Schleck suffered today.
Who the hell still considers Cunego a favourite? After all these years of consecutive failures in GTs, I still can't believe that there's still someone who can consider him a man for the GC.
https://lmgtfy.com...ce+2011+GC 
6th isn't that bad 
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| kumazan |
Posted on 15-05-2012 19:50
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Well he was 6th in the Tour. That's the best of an Italian since Birillo 2005, but he (Basso) had an Spanish engine.
Edited by kumazan on 15-05-2012 19:51
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| fickman |
Posted on 15-05-2012 19:57
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Rujano losing time again  |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 15-05-2012 19:59
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fickman wrote:
Rujano losing time again
Actually I was really happy with his ride today. His usual weakness are those climbs like today where he usually lost quite a lot compared to day. In 3rd week you can easily win minutes so loosing so little today is quite good for him.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 15-05-2012 20:04
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fickman wrote:
Rujano losing time again
Still not as bad as it could've been. If they'd have gone full gas already on the first part of the climb, he'd have dropped much earlier and probably lost a minute, if not more. He's too much of a pure climber to survive these hills.
Nevertheless, it was expected. He'll bounce back in the big mountains.
EDIT: As already explained by Alakagom.
Edited by Pellizotti2 on 15-05-2012 20:04
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-05-2012 20:17
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That has nothing to do with his climbing ability. Let Rujano start within the first 20 and he would not lose time.
I've watched closely and he started the climb in 70th position. Midway through he was in 35th position, and at the end he was what, 20-something?
He just can't position himself and because Androni is seriously weakened (Sella, Serpa, Rubiano all injured or sick), he has no help either.
Rujano still lost only 2'30 to most contenders and 3' to rodriguez (who himself is incosistent in the mountains anyway). So it's going better than expected |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 15-05-2012 20:33
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I'm happy that Hesjedal didn't lose a ton of time! Top 10 is still possible hopefully, just sad to see the Maglia rosa go so soon
Then again, he's been doing these climbs without any team support, by the looks of it.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 15-05-2012 20:40
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I also think that we need to wait when real mountains come and climbers will warm up.
Pozzovivo and Purito great speed is not surprise..both was in great shape before Giro. Will they survive also 3rd. week..realy dont know
Edited by Guido Mukk on 15-05-2012 20:41
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-05-2012 20:42
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Gustavovskiy wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Slagter was amazing..little stupid..but realy strong.
My thoughts exactly. I see him,in a couple of years, joining Rabobank's elite group of young supertalents that despite being incredibly talented, will never actually win anything in the big stage.
Pellizotti2 wrote:
The favourites who lost time today (on the favourite group) were:
Cunego - 6s
Rujano - 9s
Schleck - 20s
No doubt that Schleck suffered today.
Who the hell still considers Cunego a favourite? After all these years of consecutive failures in GTs, I still can't believe that there's still someone who can consider him a man for the GC.
Haha idiot... Even the oldest of the 'golden' generation of talents is only 27 (Thomas Dekker). You talk like they are at their max/end of career already lol. They are still only at the start. But you'll have your mouth shut in the coming years. All it takes is patience for me  |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 15-05-2012 20:47
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ruben wrote:
Gustavovskiy wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Slagter was amazing..little stupid..but realy strong.
My thoughts exactly. I see him,in a couple of years, joining Rabobank's elite group of young supertalents that despite being incredibly talented, will never actually win anything in the big stage.
Pellizotti2 wrote:
The favourites who lost time today (on the favourite group) were:
Cunego - 6s
Rujano - 9s
Schleck - 20s
No doubt that Schleck suffered today.
Who the hell still considers Cunego a favourite? After all these years of consecutive failures in GTs, I still can't believe that there's still someone who can consider him a man for the GC.
Haha idiot... Even the oldest of the 'golden' generation of talents is only 27 (Thomas Dekker). You talk like they are at their max/end of career already lol. They are still only at the start. But you'll have your mouth shut in the coming years. All it takes is patience for me
I don't come down either side on this, but you're talking with a little too much certainty to cover your back if they don't live up to the hype...
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| pvalente |
Posted on 15-05-2012 21:03
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Tom Jelte Slagter, God, he was amazing, I was bet in he for young jersey, and he make a brilliant race.
I'm sad for Schleck lost some time.m
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-05-2012 21:20
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ruben wrote:They are still only at the start
Yep, all of them. It's only a matter of time until Niels Scheunemann and Kai Reus start winning 70 races per season each.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 15-05-2012 21:21
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pvalente wrote:
Tom Jelte Slagter, God, he was amazing, I was bet in he for young jersey, and he make a brilliant race.
I'm sad for Schleck lost some time.m
Wait mountains..and then give jerseys |
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-05-2012 21:30
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issoisso wrote:
ruben wrote:They are still only at the start
Yep, all of them. It's only a matter of time until Niels Scheunemann and Kai Reus start winning 70 races per season each.
it's unrealistic to expect every talent to make it
Hello Grabovsky, Ignatiev and other Petrovs |
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| pvalente |
Posted on 15-05-2012 21:30
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Guido Mukk wrote:
pvalente wrote:
Tom Jelte Slagter, God, he was amazing, I was bet in he for young jersey, and he make a brilliant race.
I'm sad for Schleck lost some time.m
Wait mountains..and then give jerseys
I made the bet, in begin of Giro, and he is leader of Rabobank, Garaté is good but is not guaranteed him to do something like top 20, or something like that, maiory of young cyclist are gregarious, except for some like Urán, Henao, why not Kennaugh or one Colnago, like Locatelli and Brambilla.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 16-05-2012 01:28
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ruben wrote:
Hello Grabovsky, Ignatiev and other Petrovs
Notice a pattern?
Specifically guys who were doped up to the gills as u-23s and their bodies were done at an early age?
You forgot the best example btw, Popovych
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| ShortsNL |
Posted on 16-05-2012 01:37
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issoisso wrote:
ruben wrote:
Hello Grabovsky, Ignatiev and other Petrovs
Notice a pattern?
Specifically guys who were doped up to the gills as u-23s and their bodies were done at an early age?
You forgot the best example btw, Popovych
Don't want to put my hand in the beehive here, but ironically the first thing that comes to my mind is Thomas Dekker. |
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| Il Grillo |
Posted on 16-05-2012 11:54
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255k and more or less all headwind. Tough stage today. Group of six ahead. 2 slow first hours. Gap stays around 5 minutes at the moment, sprinter teams definately interested in getting a bunch sprint, altough some tough turns again in the final, will be interesting. |
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