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2011 World Championships Road Cycling - Copenhagen
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-09-2011 20:00
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Personally I think he's on the decline. He'll be a contender next year too, but will get a little worse every year.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 21-09-2011 20:03
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I'm not sure about Cancellara. Sure, this season has been a big disappointment for him, but you can't be on top every year.
Looking forward to see what he can do in the road race. I can see him surprising the sprinters with a late attack. |
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| DJP19 |
Posted on 21-09-2011 20:32
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Surprised to see Cancellara lose, but with Martins fantastic TTing all year it makes sense. Great ride by Tuft to get Canada 13th.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 22-09-2011 08:38
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I don't know about Cancellara declining - he has had a very long season and maybe he just has to take it easier next year.
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| laidbackmarc |
Posted on 22-09-2011 09:21
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Who are the favourites in Women Junior's RR and U23 Men? Will it be an sprinting course or a "hilly". The weather forecast says 13-15 degrees tomorrow, just a little bit rain and pretty strong winds (8-14 m/s)?
I really hope the swedish will do pretty good actually. Ahlstrand could do something good in the sprint, and he is an decent climber as well. I think top-5 is possible for him! 
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 22-09-2011 09:53
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Wilier wrote:
I wonder how close it would've been if Cancellara was still in his 2010 form.
You mean if he still uses a motorbike?
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| roturn |
Posted on 22-09-2011 17:12
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German squad: André Greipel (Omega Pharma Lotto), Tony Martin (HTC Highroad), Bert Grabsch (HTC-Highroad), Christian Knees (Sky), Andreas Klier (Garmin-Cervélo), Danilo Hondo (Lampre-ISD), Marcel Kittel (Skil-Shimano), John Degenkolb (HTC-Highroad) and Marcel Sieberg (Omega Pharma Lotto).
Wait. Where are riders like Ciolek or Wegmann, who proved a great form in Canada for example. Or Martens, who is doing excellent on longer courses.
Of course you need solid helpers like Grabsch, Hondo or Klier, but this is quite a surprise for me. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 22-09-2011 17:19
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EDIT: Roturn beat me. 
So no Ciolek, Wegmann, Martens. Especially Martens is a surprise, he always excels in such races.
A team completely focused on Greipel and thus on a mass sprint. Martin should be the only one to follow a late attack if necessary.
A sprint train for Greipel with Grabsch, Martin, Hondo, Sieberg, Degenkolb, Kittel would be awesome.
Edited by cio93 on 22-09-2011 17:23
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| kumazan |
Posted on 22-09-2011 17:21
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Wow that's a 9 men long sprint train. And what a sprint train.
I also thought they'd choose Martens, a valuable guy in this kind of races, and a guy you could put in a breakaway to save the team from doing some work. Same for Wegmann. Still a very strong team, if Greipel is able to follow the right wheel, that is.
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| SotD |
Posted on 22-09-2011 20:48
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siwi wrote:
Fantastic to be a part of this!!
Wow. That looks like something from the early 90s
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 22-09-2011 20:50
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cio93 wrote:
EDIT: Roturn beat me.
So no Ciolek, Wegmann, Martens. Especially Martens is a surprise, he always excels in such races.
A team completely focused on Greipel and thus on a mass sprint. Martin should be the only one to follow a late attack if necessary.
A sprint train for Greipel with Grabsch, Martin, Hondo, Sieberg, Degenkolb, Kittel would be awesome.
With Cavendish on Greipel's wheel, sounds good.
Although perhaps not right on Greipel's wheel, as Im sure even if that sprint train managed to form, Greipel would find a way not to be on it, and be some way further back.
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| SotD |
Posted on 22-09-2011 20:51
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issoisso wrote:
YvesStevens wrote:
Great win by Martin, Even if Cancellara was in shape he could'nt win. I think this is the most bad season from Cancellara so far. He lost his second place after he had to stand still against that crowd barrier. Anyway it is a nice World Championship so far...
I think the question now is....Is Cancellara declining? He's 30 and turned pro very early so chances are high that yes he is. But it could also have been just a random bad season.
One thing is for sure. If he's declining he'll never again be dominant.
Has he been spectacular on any other team than Bjarne Riis'? I know he was good before, and he still is, but I can't recall him being so amazing before nor now.
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| SotD |
Posted on 22-09-2011 20:52
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SportingNonsense wrote:
cio93 wrote:
EDIT: Roturn beat me.
So no Ciolek, Wegmann, Martens. Especially Martens is a surprise, he always excels in such races.
A team completely focused on Greipel and thus on a mass sprint. Martin should be the only one to follow a late attack if necessary.
A sprint train for Greipel with Grabsch, Martin, Hondo, Sieberg, Degenkolb, Kittel would be awesome.
With Cavendish on Greipel's wheel, sounds good.
Although perhaps not right on Greipel's wheel, as Im sure even if that sprint train managed to form, Greipel would find a way not to be on it, and be some way further back.
Doesn't matter. Kittel will just take it then.
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 22-09-2011 20:58
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Kittel will have problems with the distance. I wouldn´t bet a € on a German taking a medal but i still hope i´m too pessimistic.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 22-09-2011 21:11
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SportingNonsense wrote:
With Cavendish on Greipel's wheel, sounds good.
Still that would be the best position he can get with the help of his team. Better be in front of Cav then 5 positions further back where Greipel was way too often this season.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 22-09-2011 21:15
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Well, whatever Germany plan in the finale, its good for Britain that they want a Sprint. I guess USA and Australia are the 2 other strong teams (rider number wise) who will also prioritise a sprint. Im sure theyll all look for the Brits to do a lot of work, but if its only Britain doing the work, a sprint would be unlikely
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| Rin |
Posted on 22-09-2011 22:30
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I think the German race will be like..
Getting someone in the breakaway (Hondo?) and then blow up..
Or getting no one in the breakaway and then blow up..
As the German manager, I would try to hold the tempo up as I guess the wind factor shouldn't be forgotten here..
But there would be also a great chance to blow up and so, maybe loose riders like Kittel..
In the final I would try to form a sprint train for Degenkolb and let Greipel be behind someone else like Cavendish, as Greipel tends to blow up on the positioning part.. While I think Degenkolb could have a chance to get at least the bronze medal here
But I think now here is the reason why I am not the german national team manager.. 
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| fefj |
Posted on 22-09-2011 22:50
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Tuco the Ugly wrote:
issoisso wrote:
YvesStevens wrote:
Great win by Martin, Even if Cancellara was in shape he could'nt win. I think this is the most bad season from Cancellara so far. He lost his second place after he had to stand still against that crowd barrier. Anyway it is a nice World Championship so far...
I think the question now is....Is Cancellara declining? He's 30 and turned pro very early so chances are high that yes he is. But it could also have been just a random bad season.
One thing is for sure. If he's declining he'll never again be dominant.
I think he's declined in TT this year.
However, despite the lack of major results, thought he looked as strong as ever in the Classics.
He was on the podium in San Remo, Flanders and Roubaix. He SMASHED the opposition in Harelbeke. I bet he is the only guy in cycling for whom these results are a failure. Are we also gonna talk about Gilbert's decline if he fails to repeat his triple in the Ardennes?
Time-Trial wise however, there is no denying that he has been below par this season. As to the reasons, i do not know. A change of focus perhaps? |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 22-09-2011 23:13
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SportingNonsense wrote:
cio93 wrote:
EDIT: Roturn beat me.
So no Ciolek, Wegmann, Martens. Especially Martens is a surprise, he always excels in such races.
A team completely focused on Greipel and thus on a mass sprint. Martin should be the only one to follow a late attack if necessary.
A sprint train for Greipel with Grabsch, Martin, Hondo, Sieberg, Degenkolb, Kittel would be awesome.
With Cavendish on Greipel's wheel, sounds good.
Although perhaps not right on Greipel's wheel, as Im sure even if that sprint train managed to form, Greipel would find a way not to be on it, and be some way further back.
That's the plan, allowing Kittel to take victory
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| ruben |
Posted on 22-09-2011 23:53
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No Martens...he was the best german in the race last year.
And the best hilly rider Rabobank had this year.
Such an underrated and underrewarded rider |
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