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Champions League 2011/12
FreitasPCM
In less than one week, Barça lose their main targets of the season. Major LOL. :lol:

Anyway, congrats for Chelsea, held nice at the back, scored in counter attacks, well played. Wink
 
Crommy
Well done Chelsea. Came with a game plan executed it well
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Alakagom
Crommy wrote:
Well done Chelsea. Came with a game plan executed it well


Especially playing with 10 men too Wink
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cunego59
I can't stop shaking my head... it's unbelievable. But oh well, it's sort of deserved, although everything would have been different if Messi scored that penalty. But hey, next season, they'll be hungry again and then it's triple time...
 
Lachi
Crommy wrote:
Well done Chelsea. Came with a game plan executed it well

The result of this game has nothing to do with Chelsea.
Game plan? I doubt they planed to play on 10.
Chelsea goals? Both goals were given aways by Barça players. How hard is it to cover the only Chelsea player in your half?
Edited by Lachi on 24-04-2012 21:50
 
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Levi4life
I'm not a Chelsea fan, but I did a dance in their honor.
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Crommy
Lachi wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Well done Chelsea. Came with a game plan executed it well

The result of this game has nothing to do with Chelsea.
Game plan? I doubt they planed to play on 10.
Chelsea goals? Both goals were given aways by Barça players. How hard is it to cover the only Chelsea player in your game half?


You would have noticed their game plan if you watched their defensive positioning. It gave Barcelona little space in the crucial areas, slowed them up and made Barcelona a lot less threatening.

And yes, they had a lot of luck too
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Ste117
Wanted to Chelsea to go through, hate Barca, not they can get beat in the final by either Bayern or Madrid, I would like either of them 2 to win the final Grin
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Lachi
Crommy wrote:
Lachi wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Well done Chelsea. Came with a game plan executed it well

The result of this game has nothing to do with Chelsea.
Game plan? I doubt they planed to play on 10.
Chelsea goals? Both goals were given aways by Barça players. How hard is it to cover the only Chelsea player in your game half?


You would have noticed their game plan if you watched their defensive positioning. It gave Barcelona little space in the crucial areas, slowed them up and made Barcelona a lot less threatening.

And yes, they had a lot of luck too

I still disagree. Even the teams in the lowest english leagues can play like that.
Chelsea was neither able to prevent the two goals nor the 10 other scoring chances.
Like in the first game Barça had more than 10 good chances to score, this time they even missed the PK.
All three goals from Chelsea came from very lousy defense.
If a team plays like that, they obviously cannot become Champions League champions.
 
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Crommy
Lachi wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Lachi wrote:
Crommy wrote:
Well done Chelsea. Came with a game plan executed it well

The result of this game has nothing to do with Chelsea.
Game plan? I doubt they planed to play on 10.
Chelsea goals? Both goals were given aways by Barça players. How hard is it to cover the only Chelsea player in your game half?


You would have noticed their game plan if you watched their defensive positioning. It gave Barcelona little space in the crucial areas, slowed them up and made Barcelona a lot less threatening.

And yes, they had a lot of luck too

I still disagree. Even the teams in the lowest english leagues can play like that.
Chelsea was neither able to prevent the two goals nor the 10 other scoring chances.
Like in the first game Barça had more than 10 good chances to score, this time they even missed the PK.
All three goals from Chelsea came from very lousy defense.
If a team plays like that, they obviously cannot become Champions League champions.


I definitely didn't say they deserved to win (in fact, on the previous page I said the opposite). I really don't think a team that played like that deserves to be in the Champions League final. But they've won, and whilst you can attribute some of it luck, you have to admit that they did have some success in negating Barcelona's attacking potency
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Rin
So Barcelona with a "lousy defense" would deserve the place in the finals?

You can't proceed into the finals beating Barcelona with being a lousy team, remember how Bayern lost against Barcelona some years ago? Or how Leverkusen went out from the CL against Barcelona?

There is a diffrence between playing defensive like Chelsea or playing defensive like Leverkusen or Bayern some years ago did against Barcelona..
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Alakagom
To add to this. Barca is very dimensional team too. They only play for Messi. If he doesnt deliver and struggles in a match ...they usually fail. Kepp Messi under leash and Barca isnt so strong Wink
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Crommy
Rin wrote:
So Barcelona with a "lousy defense" would deserve the place in the finals?

You can't proceed into the finals beating Barcelona with being a lousy team, remember how Bayern lost against Barcelona some years ago? Or how Leverkusen went out from the CL against Barcelona?

There is a diffrence between playing defensive like Chelsea or playing defensive like Leverkusen or Bayern some years ago did against Barcelona..


Yes. They play beautiful attacking football. For me, that is deserving of a place.
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cunego59
In my opinion, every win that didn't benefit from referee mistakes or something similar is deserved. In this case, it was a mixture of Barca not being able to use their chances (sure, that is not Chelsea's achievement, but Barca doesn't deserve the win if they don't make their chances) and definetely good defending by Chelsea.

Because, with all due respect, Lachi, it is ridiculous to say basically every team can play like that. Defending Barca is probably the biggest challenge any team can face at the moment in professional football, and doing that with only 10 men is even harder. Barca had only 7 shoots directly on the goal which is a very decent figure for Chelsea.

And as CT said before, defending is part of football as well, although we might not worship it as much as attacking. And sure, benefiting from the inability of others (at least partly) is not the best way to enter a CL final, but that doesn't matter. What matters is that they won this match (as I stated above, deserved in my opinion), and as this match was the half final, they're in the final. Period.
 
Rin
I think there could be a more beautiful football then Barcelona is playing with 75% of possession and taking almost every corner with a pass..

Playing everytime the same old tikitak without having a plan b when they are playing against a team that manages to beat their takitak..

They might be a good offensive team, but not a complete team
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Lachi
I never said it easy to defend against Barça. I said that Chelsea did not defend well.
In these two matches Barça had 26 chances to score but only 9 of these shots were on target. Cech had some good saves but most of the shots were easy.
I believe it is lousy to score 2 goals from 26 attempts in regard of the paychecks of these guys.

Barça is a limited team regarding tactics, defense and player types not matter how good all the players are.
Edited by Lachi on 24-04-2012 22:51
 
Avin Wargunnson
One LOL for Barcelona :lol:
Three LOLS for Messi :lol: :lol: :lol:

Best player (they say). best team (they say), best football to watch (they say), but without significant trophies. Time to revise the opinions?

Barcelona are not really good in football in general. Why? Because they can play only one way, almost the same all the time. When somebody expose this system and stop Messi, Barca is clueless, absolutely clueless. They are playing handball, Chelsea was playing football, that is why they beat them.
And you are stupid John Terry btw. Wink
One of the best nights of my life, watching clueless Barcelona for three games in the row is better than Gunners winning something. Pfft

Edit: If now Messi will win Golden Ball without major team trophy, it will be official that Blatter is s*cking his b*lls
Edit2: Many people are talking about how Barcelona was not able to score from chances and that Chelsea had luck, dont forget Petr Cech, he is 50% of Chelsea defense, almost impossible to beat 1on1, fantastic goalkeeper.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 25-04-2012 06:34
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Avin Wargunnson
:lol: Enjoy yout time in Catalunya Cesc!

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