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Tour de France 2010: Stage 2 Bruxelles - Spa
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| AndyNOR |
Posted on 05-07-2010 16:56
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Hushovd is pissed after the decision.
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| roturn |
Posted on 05-07-2010 16:57
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Agree. It makes no sense to discuss if they would have climbed this hill successful in first group or not  So at least they still had the chance to get points unlike Cav or Farrar. |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 05-07-2010 16:57
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Raising the pace of the race for the final sprint would have been an incredibly stupid idea - there had already been too many accidents and one more could have exacerbated the injuries of someone who had fallen earlier in the day. Riders have their careers to think of - we only have one stage. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 05-07-2010 16:58
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There may be more to it than we know. Fuglsang (and another rider, don't remember who) said that it was not just rainy and slippery because of that, but that it felt much different - like oil spill on the road.
If that's the reason for the crash, it's no wonder that they protested. |
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 05-07-2010 16:58
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i think it's pathetic.
they're supposed to be professional bike racers. if they don't like racing in the rain then they should have done something else. something needs to be done otherwise this will happen at every stage where there is a bit of rain. it's just a cop out so riders can have an extra rest day. Cancellara should be punished, though i don't really see how he can be as a time or points deduction won't bother him. Maybe they should take his motor of him
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| jph27 |
Posted on 05-07-2010 16:59
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CrueTrue wrote:
There may be more to it than we know. Fuglsang (and another rider, don't remember who) said that it was not just rainy and slippery because of that, but that it felt much different - like oil spill on the road.
If that's the reason for the crash, it's no wonder that they protested.
That's worrying, also there seem to be more crashes in stage races this year. |
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Posted on 05-07-2010 16:59
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Gesink too. He said he fell too then they just carried on and then later he was lucky not to fall and he gained an advantage and then they couldn't carry on. Then he cut off the interview.
Edited by CrueTrue on 05-07-2010 17:01
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| ember |
Posted on 05-07-2010 16:59
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He says he is only pissed if the points gets delivered, because he thought he had a great opportunity to gain points on the other sprinters.
Edited by ember on 05-07-2010 16:59
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| CountArach |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:00
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ringo182 wrote:
Cancellara should be punished, though i don't really see how he can be as a time or points deduction won't bother him.
Why? All the teams agreed with his idea; this was a decision from all the teams (because none of them pushed on as they could have if they wanted to) and almost certainly a vast majority of the riders. |
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:00
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Aquarius wrote:
I didn't see the stage, so my 2 cents about the reports I read might not be 100 % relevant...
The usual behaviour in a peloton is or should be more or less the following :
- a rider falls, leader or not, you don't accelerate to prevent him coming back
-> if you're only wandering around, not chasing or even maintaining a tempo, it makes no difference that you wait, so it's ok to wait
-> if the chase has started, too bad for the poor fellow who fell, but c'est la vie
-> if you're holding a tempo but have not launched the chase yet, just maintain that tempo, with the aide of cars the rider should be able to make his way back to the peloton
If it's rainy and slippy, what ? It makes no sense to neutralise it. Do sprinters neutralise mountain stages for GC contenders and climbers ? No.
Should riders who enjoy the sun better neutralise rainy races ? Definitely no.
If they're stupid enough to take too much risk in descents or slippery roads, it's their own problem. Follow or let go, if you try to follow but fall it's your problem. Would a F1 pilot cry that his car went off the track when he was merely driving too fast in a curve ? It's the same thing.
Rain, slipping roads, all that is part of the race.
Nearly everyone fell not just 10-15 riders. I don't know if you already fell on a bike but you rellay don't wanna take any risks after a crash. The peleton just wanted to finish the race taking it easy. Riding in a peleton were about 3/4 are injured can be dangerous because they have less reflex ans it hurts to move to much.
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Posted on 05-07-2010 17:02
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BouBBox wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
I didn't see the stage, so my 2 cents about the reports I read might not be 100 % relevant...
The usual behaviour in a peloton is or should be more or less the following :
- a rider falls, leader or not, you don't accelerate to prevent him coming back
-> if you're only wandering around, not chasing or even maintaining a tempo, it makes no difference that you wait, so it's ok to wait
-> if the chase has started, too bad for the poor fellow who fell, but c'est la vie
-> if you're holding a tempo but have not launched the chase yet, just maintain that tempo, with the aide of cars the rider should be able to make his way back to the peloton
If it's rainy and slippy, what ? It makes no sense to neutralise it. Do sprinters neutralise mountain stages for GC contenders and climbers ? No.
Should riders who enjoy the sun better neutralise rainy races ? Definitely no.
If they're stupid enough to take too much risk in descents or slippery roads, it's their own problem. Follow or let go, if you try to follow but fall it's your problem. Would a F1 pilot cry that his car went off the track when he was merely driving too fast in a curve ? It's the same thing.
Rain, slipping roads, all that is part of the race.
Nearly everyone fell not just 10-15 riders. I don't know if you already fell on a bike but you rellay don't wanna take any risks after a crash. The peleton just wanted to finish the race taking it easy. Riding in a peleton were about 3/4 are injured can be dangerous because they have less reflex ans it hurts to move to much.
So what that's part of the game. Tour de France is not for pussies. |
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| ABridgeTooFar |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:02
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Levi was interviewed after the race. He was asked about the chaos. He replied that chaos does not do it justice. He said that it was just about survival.
The race was neutralized by the riders due to sheer number of riders involved in the crash. There were a ton of sprinters and GC contenders in the crash. Many teams had a vested interest in neutralizing the stage. Maybe the one exception was Cervelo. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:02
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And riders couldn't chase back in the cars. For some odd reason the comissaires stopped all cars except neutral service.
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| AndyNOR |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:03
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Gratz to Chavanel. Great stage win.
just too bad we couldnt see a sprint. |
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:05
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filmmaker14 wrote:
So what that's part of the game. Tour de France is not for pussies.
If you wan't to have 21 stages you should accept this. Easy to say when you are siting in a sofa. It's a sport the objective isn't to be the last one standing on his bike!
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:09
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BouBBox wrote:
Nearly everyone fell not just 10-15 riders. I don't know if you already fell on a bike but you rellay don't wanna take any risks after a crash. The peleton just wanted to finish the race taking it easy. Riding in a peleton were about 3/4 are injured can be dangerous because they have less reflex ans it hurts to move to much.
I actually fell several times, most of times during races. I still have some of the scares, years later...
They should be able to ride their bikes, I know they can't always manage to, but that's part of the game. Up to them to finish the stage slowly, but the points should still be awarded at the end, etc. That the organisers agreed to neutralise it is regrettable IMO.
I know he's no threat for the green jersey, but what if it had been Cavendish or any serious Green Jersey contender, who had escaped for some reason today, and taken 35 points. Would the points for the peloton have been neutralised as well ? |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:09
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CrueTrue wrote:
There may be more to it than we know. Fuglsang (and another rider, don't remember who) said that it was not just rainy and slippery because of that, but that it felt much different - like oil spill on the road.
If that's the reason for the crash, it's no wonder that they protested.
Cadel Evans' Twitter:
Whoa, that was sketchy. I think the entire group went down....oil or something on the descent to Stavelot. We're all licking our wounds now. |
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| Isax3n |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:10
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hmm, funny if they wait tomorrow also. If they do, this Tour is a joke |
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| filmmaker14 |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:10
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BouBBox wrote:
filmmaker14 wrote:
So what that's part of the game. Tour de France is not for pussies.
If you wan't to have 21 stages you should accept this. Easy to say when you are siting in a sofa. It's a sport the objective isn't to be the last one standing on his bike!
I cycle myself too fyi. I don't have to accept anything. I don't have to watch tomorrow especially if it rains, because it's a given that tomorrow there are going to be massive crashes on the cobbles. The Tour is about survival and drama. The cyclists should do their job and offer a spectacle instead of making best friends with each other. |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 05-07-2010 17:13
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filmmaker14 wrote:
The cyclists should do their job and offer a spectacle instead of making best friends with each other.
At the exceedingly heightened risk of losing their job through injury, especially if there was this oil on the road? |
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