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| valverde321 |
Posted on 04-10-2010 00:33
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Rams could make the playoffs if they keep this up. How awesome would that be. Clayton and Bradford are so good together because they went to the same college so they both know the same playbook.
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Posted on 04-10-2010 02:22
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What an exciting game this is. Cutlers been sacked 5 times already and its still the first half.
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valverde321 wrote:
Rams could make the playoffs if they keep this up. How awesome would that be. Clayton and Bradford are so good together because they went to the same college so they both know the same playbook.
Its such a shame for the NFL that a team from a SO bad division is going to the Play Offs. Non of the teams is good enough for that. Such a crap-division. |
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Posted on 04-10-2010 02:51
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siwi wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Rams could make the playoffs if they keep this up. How awesome would that be. Clayton and Bradford are so good together because they went to the same college so they both know the same playbook.
Its such a shame for the NFL that a team from a SO bad division is going to the Play Offs. Non of the teams is good enough for that. Such a crap-division.
Actually the Rams aren't that bad. And who lost to Jacksonville?
Sam Bradford is one of the best Qb's in the league already and is a very athletic player. He also got scouted by college's for basketball, and was nearly drafted in the NHL entry draft. He also plays golf. This guy is an athlete and has proven it so far. He's getting better and better every week.
Steven Jackson- One of the best RB's in the league when healthy, he can slam it down the middle, and is clutch. His stats prove this.
Rams O-Line: has actually improved a lot over the off-season, but Bradford can scramble out of the pocket anyway.
Laurent Robinson: This guy will be big one day. I thought this would be his break-out year, with Avery out, but Clayton has performed well. He has lots of potential and has shined in the few clutch plays I've seen of him this year.
Donnie Avery: This guy has wheels, and has been the Rams best WR the last two years. He's out all year, but may be good for post season 
Mark Clayton: He always been pretty good, but he has gelled with Bradford thanks to both going to Oklahoma. He has great speed, and can break CB's ankles like nothing. Watch the highlights against the Redskins. Check his stats. He's good.
Josh Brown: He's a very good kicker.
Rams D: Rams D is way better than everyone thinks. Chris Long is a great Lineman along with Laurinatis the LB. Atogwe the FS is one of the best FS's in the league. Fletcher is a good CB and has lots of picks this year. And the Defence shut down, Washington last week.
Lets hope the Chargers don't underestimate the Rams like the Skins. Wait lets hope they do.
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| Tuco the Ugly |
Posted on 04-10-2010 03:23
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valverde321 wrote:
Sam Bradford is one of the best Qb's in the league already and is a very athletic player. He also got scouted by college's for basketball, and was nearly drafted in the NHL entry draft. He also plays golf. This guy is an athlete and has proven it so far. He's getting better and better every week.
That's a pretty big overstatement. I do think he has every chance at becoming an elite QB one day. But right now, there's at least 15 QBs better. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 04-10-2010 03:43
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Tuco the Ugly wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Sam Bradford is one of the best Qb's in the league already and is a very athletic player. He also got scouted by college's for basketball, and was nearly drafted in the NHL entry draft. He also plays golf. This guy is an athlete and has proven it so far. He's getting better and better every week.
That's a pretty big overstatement. I do think he has every chance at becoming an elite QB one day. But right now, there's at least 15 QBs better.
OK name them all.
Edit: According to Fantasy football points there are exactly 15. But still, its not really much of an overstatement. He's right there with the QB's at the bottom of the 15.
He apparently has no decent WR's according to NFL experts yet a few of his WR's are putting up fairly big numbers. And stats aren't everything. Escaping sacks isn't a stat. And he can read the field.
Don't tell me you like the Jets.
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Posted on 04-10-2010 03:50
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Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers, Tony Romo, Matt Schaub, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Donovan McNabb, Matt Ryan, Mike Vick, Joe Flacco, Brett Favre, Kyle Orton, Vince Young, and Mark Sanchez.
I'm not saying Bradford won't be better than many of those QBs some day. Just right now, he's a rookie, and distinctly average. It's not a slight on him, it's where he should be. |
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Posted on 04-10-2010 04:36
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Yeah!!!! Tony Dungy is excited for St Louis Rams fans.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 04-10-2010 07:34
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and Bears did lost a game when I started to predict them.. what a boring game it was.
Still Giats ain't going nowhere at this season.
Colts and that Jaguars 59 yarder..amazing game.. |
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Posted on 04-10-2010 11:28
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OMG these Rams can actually play, for real. The times where you were almost certain that the Seahawks would get atleast 2 wins cause of St. Louis seem to be over 
Haha but the NFC West has to be the most suckiest yet most unpredictable division. Seahawks beat a great team in the Chargers but fall to the Rams. Meanwhile the Rams lost to the Cards and the Cards lost badly to the CHargers yesterday. And the Niners who were supposedly the favorite are 0-4 hahahahaha ;D
Also this just shows how pathetic of a franchise the Bills are, every year they fail to adress their needs in the draft, like this season when they got frickin CJ Spiller, yea a nice player but they obviously forgot that the rest of their offense is pathetic and their defense isnt any good either apart from some guys like Byrd. Meanwhile teams like the Rams and the Lions (And the Dolphins a few years ago) just slowly rebuilded, adressing their needs every year in the draft and eventually results will come. Ok the Lions are still winless but I saw some of their games and they really aren't bad they've just had tough opponents and their division is simply very tough but they are getting there just like St. Louis who do happen to be lucky that their division is weak and the Dolphins transformed into a playoff team. Meanwhile the Bills still suck and will be drafting in the top 5 next year and will probably pick someone up who is great in returning kicks or some defensive lineman who they could pick up in the 2nd round.
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Posted on 04-10-2010 13:08
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Posted on 04-10-2010 15:01
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Sam Bradford is one of the best Qb's in the league already and is a very athletic player. He also got scouted by college's for basketball, and was nearly drafted in the NHL entry draft. He also plays golf. This guy is an athlete and has proven it so far. He's getting better and better every week.
This I agree is an overstatement. He is decent so far. It is not as if either the Redskins or the Seahawks D are world beaters.
Steven Jackson- One of the best RB's in the league when healthy, he can slam it down the middle, and is clutch. His stats prove this.
That is excactly the problem with Steven Jackson. The o-line looks a bit better this year though.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 04-10-2010 18:38
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So with Bradford putting out more TD's than Eli, much more passing yards than Garrard more TD's than McNabb, more passing yards and TD's than Flacco, much more passing yards than Mark Sanchez and less INT than most of these QB's, and comparing QB's that have dominant RB's like Favre, Young, Schuab and Flacco, only Schuab is better, and has almost exact stats to Matt Ryan. Seems pretty good to me. We see Matt Ryan as a QB thats up "there" right? So with Bradford equal to him is he not one of the best.
Not one of the best my arse, he's pretty good already if you look at it closely. I mean QB's like Brady and Peyton are on another level, but those very good 2nd tier QB's is a category I would say Bradford fits into.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 04-10-2010 19:33
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Come one..calm down. This is boy's first season. It is never easy for QB. There will be lot of INT and realy hard games.
Almost as Brady and Peyton Manning? I will ask it again in the middle of the season..
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| jacknic |
Posted on 04-10-2010 19:36
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valverde321 wrote:
So with Bradford putting out more TD's than Eli, much more passing yards than Garrard more TD's than McNabb, more passing yards and TD's than Flacco, much more passing yards than Mark Sanchez and less INT than most of these QB's, and comparing QB's that have dominant RB's like Favre, Young, Schuab and Flacco, only Schuab is better, and has almost exact stats to Matt Ryan. Seems pretty good to me. We see Matt Ryan as a QB thats up "there" right? So with Bradford equal to him is he not one of the best.
Not one of the best my arse, he's pretty good already if you look at it closely. I mean QB's like Brady and Peyton are on another level, but those very good 2nd tier QB's is a category I would say Bradford fits into.
Talk to me when he has a season or two under his belt. It's all about consistency in the NFL and all rookie QBs struggle in their first year. I am not saying that Bradford does not have potential, just that it is too early to judge.
The Rams have an insanely easy schedule this season, so he might do allright though.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 04-10-2010 22:02
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Ok I'll admit this is sorta like the Hushovd fans, but atleast for me I have plausible deniability! 
@ Guido, I was saying Brady and Peyton are miles ahead of Bradford, and most for that matter, but then there is that 2nd tier of QB's in the league like Matt Ryan, Brett Favre, Mark Sanchez, Jay Cutler, and I'm saying Bradford probably fits into this "tier".
@ jacknic If you look at Bradford he's been pretty consistant this season and has done fairly well all season. He's been more consistant than Sanchez, although he seems to be picking it up now.
But most importantly of all LETS Go Dolphins!!!
Gotta cheer as the Patriots are hated by all and Dolphins are a cool team. Plus they're the underdog, but their defense has been really good so far.
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Posted on 04-10-2010 22:03
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You can't really judge consistency after four games. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 04-10-2010 22:05
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CrueTrue wrote:
You can't really judge consistency after four games.
You can start to.
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| Tuco the Ugly |
Posted on 04-10-2010 23:36
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valverde321 wrote:
Ok I'll admit this is sorta like the Hushovd fans, but atleast for me I have plausible deniability!
@ Guido, I was saying Brady and Peyton are miles ahead of Bradford, and most for that matter, but then there is that 2nd tier of QB's in the league like Matt Ryan, Brett Favre, Mark Sanchez, Jay Cutler, and I'm saying Bradford probably fits into this "tier".
@ jacknic If you look at Bradford he's been pretty consistant this season and has done fairly well all season. He's been more consistant than Sanchez, although he seems to be picking it up now.
But most importantly of all LETS Go Dolphins!!!
Gotta cheer as the Patriots are hated by all and Dolphins are a cool team. Plus they're the underdog, but their defense has been really good so far.
I think you're wearing tinted blue and gold glasses.
Sam Bradford is completing 58.2% of his passes, good for 24th. His YPA is 5.98, 28th. And his 6 INTs are one behind the league lead. Personally, I think this is right where a rookie QB should be, so I think he's doing fine. Right on track. But he is also in the bottom-half of QBs in the league.
Those numbers aren't second tier QB level. In my opinion, there are 4 truly elite QBs (Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers). That is the first tier. Then the second tier is guys like Roethlisberger, McNabb, Schaub, Romo, Rivers, and a couple others I mentioned. Bradford is no where near those guys, at the moment. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 04-10-2010 23:50
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Tuco the Ugly wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Ok I'll admit this is sorta like the Hushovd fans, but atleast for me I have plausible deniability!
@ Guido, I was saying Brady and Peyton are miles ahead of Bradford, and most for that matter, but then there is that 2nd tier of QB's in the league like Matt Ryan, Brett Favre, Mark Sanchez, Jay Cutler, and I'm saying Bradford probably fits into this "tier".
@ jacknic If you look at Bradford he's been pretty consistant this season and has done fairly well all season. He's been more consistant than Sanchez, although he seems to be picking it up now.
But most importantly of all LETS Go Dolphins!!!
Gotta cheer as the Patriots are hated by all and Dolphins are a cool team. Plus they're the underdog, but their defense has been really good so far.
I think you're wearing tinted blue and gold glasses.
Sam Bradford is completing 58.2% of his passes, good for 24th. His YPA is 5.98, 28th. And his 6 INTs are one behind the league lead. Personally, I think this is right where a rookie QB should be, so I think he's doing fine. Right on track. But he is also in the bottom-half of QBs in the league.
Those numbers aren't second tier QB level. In my opinion, there are 4 truly elite QBs (Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers). That is the first tier. Then the second tier is guys like Roethlisberger, McNabb, Schaub, Romo, Rivers, and a couple others I mentioned. Bradford is no where near those guys, at the moment.
He's ahead of Ben 
Ok so according to your tiers Bradford would be 3rd tier with guys like Garrard, Ryan, Sanchez and Eli.
YPA means nothing imo (he's still 11th in passing yards) and 6 INTs, Flacco, Favre, Hasselbeck and Eli are also at 6. Rodgers has 5. Hmm Bradford is also tied for 8th with TD passes with Vick, Ryan, Orton, Garrard and Cutler. Bradford has 10 sacks, but that doesn't say much as Vick has 11 sacks. Bradford also has the 8th most completions. And again, 50% of the completion % for QB's is the WRs fault too.
Edit:A good example of passing % would actually be Alex Ovechkin (NHL) he takes the most shots of anyone in the NHL every season, and his goals for shots percentage is not that high, but he still puts up lots of points, because he is a good player and can make things happen. Bradford is the same imo except not quite as big of a star as Ovie.
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